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Title: This is serious me thinks!
Post by: Waglet on 30 July 2009, 20:53:07
Started car this evening (1994 2.5V6 CDX Auto 64K miles) got about 10 yards and a God almighty rattle bang wallop from engine and it died. Kinda knew it would be impossible to restart but tried any way. Tries to turn over but sounds `weird` like not enough `umpff`to turn it over. Could this be timing belt and am I stuffed?
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Post by: tunnie on 30 July 2009, 20:54:25
sounds like cambelt gone bang  :'(

When was it last changed, most importantly when were the tensioners changed?
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Post by: Lee A on 30 July 2009, 20:55:37
You might need to give a bit more detail for the experts to help you :)

Can you see anything obvious under the bonnet thats broke? I would imagine if the cambelt there would be bits on the ground and in the engine bay.
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Post by: MutantCav on 30 July 2009, 21:01:23
Neighbours car made that strange noise trying to start...engine stuffed!

Would bet cambelt never been changed so 24k overdue   ::)
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Post by: feeutfo on 30 July 2009, 21:02:21
when where the belt and tensioner last changed?
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Post by: Waglet on 30 July 2009, 21:09:43
Got a receipt in the paperwork for a "Timing belt kit + labour" changed at 48658 miles, which is only 16K ago....(if it was done off course). So if the belt has "gone" has the engine also "gone". If so any one want the whole car?
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Post by: Elite Pete on 30 July 2009, 21:14:29
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Got a receipt in the paperwork for a "Timing belt kit + labour" changed at 48658 miles, which is only 16K ago....(if it was done off course). So if the belt has "gone" has the engine also "gone". If so any one want the whole car?
I bet it was over 4 years ago. Its difficult to say if the belt or tensioners have gone without looking but as a guess I would say they have :(
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Post by: Abiton on 30 July 2009, 21:15:19
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Got a receipt in the paperwork for a "Timing belt kit + labour" changed at 48658 miles, which is only 16K ago....(if it was done off course). So if the belt has "gone" has the engine also "gone". If so any one want the whole car?


Maybe only 16K ago, but how many years ago?
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Post by: Waglet on 30 July 2009, 21:16:53
12th June 2005  :-/
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Post by: Elite Pete on 30 July 2009, 21:18:24
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12th June 2005  :-/
ooh thats a bit harsh, cambelt/tensioners should be replaced every 40000 miles or 4 years whichever comes first. :'(
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Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 30 July 2009, 21:19:36
Just over the four years then (is it four years?)

Whereabouts in the country are you?
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Post by: Waglet on 30 July 2009, 21:24:38
Yep 4 years 1 and a bit months! Doh! I'm in Milton Keynes Bucks. A fair trek from Teeside  >:(
So, worst case scenario is what cost?
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Post by: Elite Pete on 30 July 2009, 21:27:18
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Yep 4 years 1 and a bit months! Doh! I'm in Milton Keynes Bucks. A fair trek from Teeside  >:(
So, worst case scenario is what cost?
If your going to do the work yourself I would say about £200-£250 but if you want someone to do it, lots and lots :(
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Post by: ffcgary1 on 30 July 2009, 21:32:30
The cam belt breaking will mean that the pistons have had an intimate meeting with the valves and will almost certainly mean a top end rebuild with new valves and head gasket set, new belt and tensioners poss valve guides and of course all the associated seals and bits and bobs. But the upside is that you are not too far from Marksdtm in nottinham who is the man for your problem as i am almost pos that he wil have some refurbed heads to go straight on.
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Post by: Ghost on 30 July 2009, 21:35:28
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Yep 4 years 1 and a bit months! Doh! I'm in Milton Keynes Bucks. A fair trek from Teeside  >:(
So, worst case scenario is what cost?
If your going to do the work yourself I would say about £200-£250 but if you want someone to do it, lots and lots :(

thats if the timing belt has gone without knacking anything else, you might need new Valves and head gaskets, worst case.
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Post by: elitekev on 30 July 2009, 21:43:36
drop another engine in, days work and you can pick them up on ebay reasonably priced
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Post by: Waglet on 30 July 2009, 21:45:34
Oh dear. The car is Mint! What a shame. It’s not worth me repairing, as I'm not mechanically minded so it looks cost inhibitive. Guess I'll have to ebay it for spares
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Post by: ians on 30 July 2009, 21:48:32
Its worth checking that it really is the belt (or tensioner).

I think you can loosen off the timing belt cover and ease it back - you should be able to see the top of the belt...   or a mess.
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Post by: MutantCav on 30 July 2009, 21:49:56
You will get peanuts for it for spares mate...I'm sure someone on here will be able to help you fit a new engine if needed :y
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Post by: dippydave on 31 July 2009, 04:14:49
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You will get peanuts for it for spares mate...I'm sure someone on here will be able to help you fit a new engine if needed :y

says the man that makes a good penny from spares....  ;D ;D