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Title: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: Jamieo on 24 September 2009, 00:29:26
Can I fit a 2.2petrol  as a direct replacement for a 2.0 petrol engine?
Will all the 2.0 electrics fit the 2.2 lump and will the 2.0 ecu etc need to be changed?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: rustym95 on 24 September 2009, 02:00:33
Hi you will need the wire loom and ECU, check at a scrapy, some wire are the same but best to get the right wire loom for the engine, ECU has dif setting on 2.2 than 2.0. :y :y :y
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: Welung666 on 24 September 2009, 05:48:19
2.2 is DBW so you'd need the throttle position sensor and loom from inside the car. It'd be easier to source another 2.0 to be honest :y
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: Jamieo on 24 September 2009, 09:31:03
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2.2 is DBW so you'd need the throttle position sensor and loom from inside the car. It'd be easier to source another 2.0 to be honest :y

I hope that I am not making myself look thick by asking this but what does DBW mean?
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: Entwood on 24 September 2009, 09:33:44
DBW = Drive By Wire

Electrically controlled by servo motors not directly by a steel cable  ..  :)
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: Jamieo on 24 September 2009, 09:38:58
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DBW = Drive By Wire

Electrically controlled by servo motors not directly by a steel cable  ..  :)

Thanks, silly me.

Could I fit the 2.2 engine in using the manifolds and other bits from the 2.0 engine as they look the same except for the 2.2 block being taller?
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: markey mark on 24 September 2009, 12:14:41
dead easy just swop manifolds off 2.0 and some sensors might have to change cam cover  :y
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: mick-1975 on 24 September 2009, 20:33:57
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2.2 is DBW so you'd need the throttle position sensor and loom from inside the car. It'd be easier to source another 2.0 to be honest :y

 hi if u need a 2.o l engine i have one already out and it was a good runner ,  :y
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: Welung666 on 24 September 2009, 20:41:47
Jamie, have you got a 2.2 lump already?
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: Jamieo on 25 September 2009, 01:42:39
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Jamie, have you got a 2.2 lump already?

No, not yet.
My engine went in the early hours of tuesday morning, had been running perfectly all night (It is a taxi) until I pulled away after dropping a passenger off when the power dipped and this tapping noise started.

I got the car home and had a look at it later in the day, before looking at it my first hunch was that the timing belt had slipped but I was wrong. All the timing marks line up perfectly.

I then did a compression test and No 1 registered 0, needle didn't move but No's 2 3 & 4 registered nearly 200 psi. It starts but is very smoky and is burning a lot of oil and runs really rough and noisily.

Since I am going to have to replace the engine any way I thought I could possibly replace it with the slightly more powerful 2.2 lump as the 2.0 seems a little under powered when full of passengers and when I am using the car to tow my caravan.

A local breakers has a 2.0 lump for £150 + vat but another breaker has a 2.2 lump from a frontera for £180.

Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: Welung666 on 25 September 2009, 05:51:58
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Jamie, have you got a 2.2 lump already?

No, not yet.
My engine went in the early hours of tuesday morning, had been running perfectly all night (It is a taxi) until I pulled away after dropping a passenger off when the power dipped and this tapping noise started.

I got the car home and had a look at it later in the day, before looking at it my first hunch was that the timing belt had slipped but I was wrong. All the timing marks line up perfectly.

I then did a compression test and No 1 registered 0, needle didn't move but No's 2 3 & 4 registered nearly 200 psi. It starts but is very smoky and is burning a lot of oil and runs really rough and noisily.

Since I am going to have to replace the engine any way I thought I could possibly replace it with the slightly more powerful 2.2 lump as the 2.0 seems a little under powered when full of passengers and when I am using the car to tow my caravan.

A local breakers has a 2.0 lump for £150 + vat but another breaker has a 2.2 lump from a frontera for £180.


I have a 2.2 I'm breaking here, it still running ATM (till tomorrow anyway) with all the correct loom etc..
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2009, 09:22:53
not sure if frontera lump is that same as the Astra/Vectra 2.2 or the Omega 2.2
Title: Re: Engine swap 2.2 petrol into 2.0 petrol
Post by: Jamieo on 26 September 2009, 10:52:25
I got a 2.0 engine from my local breakers yesterday and have started removing the old one.

Thanks for everybody's advice.