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Title: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: acura on 15 October 2009, 06:08:49
Hi, just (yesterday) took delivery of my 02 2.2 auto Omega. It is off the road at present as I'm gonna do a full sevice and renew the timing belt/rollers/water pump etc.

There doesn't seem to be a Haines manual for this engine but one for the earlier 2.0

2 questions: will the 2.0 information in the Haines book do for the 2.2? and better still is there a 'how to' do this job on this forum? Forgive me if I've missed it.

I'm a competent home mechanic but need to know if I need any special tools etc before I start.

Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: Welung666 on 15 October 2009, 06:10:22
They are pretty much the same engine so the 2.0 haynes will cover it :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: rustym95 on 15 October 2009, 07:19:36
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Hi, just (yesterday) took delivery of my 02 2.2 auto Omega. It is off the road at present as I'm gonna do a full sevice and renew the timing belt/rollers/water pump etc.

There doesn't seem to be a Haines manual for this engine but one for the earlier 2.0

2 questions: will the 2.0 information in the Haines book do for the 2.2? and better still is there a 'how to' do this job on this forum? Forgive me if I've missed it.

I'm a competent home mechanic but need to know if I need any special tools etc before I start.

Thanks for any help.
is the same think its just the bore size dif,you will need to lock the top and bottom and some star sockets and 13m spanner and socket, and a rubber hammer to get the crank wheel off. :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 15 October 2009, 16:19:15
Think you will find only the top needs a lock ;)
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: tunnie on 15 October 2009, 16:23:27
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Hi, just (yesterday) took delivery of my 02 2.2 auto Omega. It is off the road at present as I'm gonna do a full sevice and renew the timing belt/rollers/water pump etc.

There doesn't seem to be a Haines manual for this engine but one for the earlier 2.0

2 questions: will the 2.0 information in the Haines book do for the 2.2? and better still is there a 'how to' do this job on this forum? Forgive me if I've missed it.

I'm a competent home mechanic but need to know if I need any special tools etc before I start.

Thanks for any help.
is the same think its just the bore size dif,you will need to lock the top and bottom and some star sockets and 13m spanner and socket, and a rubber hammer to get the crank wheel off. :y

Its a 4 pot, you only lock the top
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: TheBoy on 15 October 2009, 18:34:09
2.2 is a stroked 2.0, so 2.0 manual covers it.

Need a £5 locking wedge.  Change waterpump at same time, and ensure its a full cambelt kit rathr than belt only
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: TheBoy on 15 October 2009, 18:35:24
additionally, there is a 4 cyl cambelt dvd in the OOF shop. Its not great (the v6 one is excellent), but for sake of £3, might prove useful
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 15 October 2009, 19:02:51
I wouldn't bother with the 2.0 DVD, it was late, rushed, and not close up enough.

It was more of a case of just filming me fit one, rather than a how-to....
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 15 October 2009, 19:03:15
Actually, I didn't realise the shop was selling it, I think it should be withdrawn
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: TheBoy on 15 October 2009, 19:13:00
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Actually, I didn't realise the shop was selling it, I think it should be withdrawn
We hope to do another, but whilst there is nothing else better, its better than nothing :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 15 October 2009, 19:17:46
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Actually, I didn't realise the shop was selling it, I think it should be withdrawn
We hope to do another, but whilst there is nothing else better, its better than nothing :y

Yeah I guess  ::)

I did a 2.2 a few months ago, I had every good intention of some hi-res pics to make a guide, but entirely forgot...  :-[
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: acura on 15 October 2009, 19:56:35
Thanks for all your info guys.

I'll probs invest in a Haynes manual, even though its for the pre-facelift.

Do any of you recommend Autovaux for you parts? They seem reasonable. Do the parts seem to be good quality? Do you think I may be able to get the lock tool from them?

Any recommendations appreciated as I'm not used to Vauxhalls.
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: tunnie on 15 October 2009, 20:16:52
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Actually, I didn't realise the shop was selling it, I think it should be withdrawn
We hope to do another, but whilst there is nothing else better, its better than nothing :y

With my current millage mine will need re-doing within 6 months, so could film that one?
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: TheBoy on 15 October 2009, 20:40:36
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Thanks for all your info guys.

I'll probs invest in a Haynes manual, even though its for the pre-facelift.

Do any of you recommend Autovaux for you parts? They seem reasonable. Do the parts seem to be good quality? Do you think I may be able to get the lock tool from them?

Any recommendations appreciated as I'm not used to Vauxhalls.
I would no longer recommend autovaux - they have a habit of telling you its a genuine part (or a part made by a GM supplier), but its not the same quality as a genuine part.
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 15 October 2009, 20:45:21
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Thanks for all your info guys.

I'll probs invest in a Haynes manual, even though its for the pre-facelift.

Do any of you recommend Autovaux for you parts? They seem reasonable. Do the parts seem to be good quality? Do you think I may be able to get the lock tool from them?

Any recommendations appreciated as I'm not used to Vauxhalls.
I would no longer recommend autovaux - they have a habit of telling you its a genuine part (or a part made by a GM supplier), but its not the same quality as a genuine part.

I have just said the same to someone else :)
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 15 October 2009, 21:03:11
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Thanks for all your info guys.

I'll probs invest in a Haynes manual, even though its for the pre-facelift.

Do any of you recommend Autovaux for you parts? They seem reasonable. Do the parts seem to be good quality? Do you think I may be able to get the lock tool from them?

Any recommendations appreciated as I'm not used to Vauxhalls.
I would no longer recommend autovaux - they have a habit of telling you its a genuine part (or a part made by a GM supplier), but its not the same quality as a genuine part.

I have just said the same to someone else :)


Exactly the same here

Although they did supply me some Gen GM rings for the Astra - which were £218 cheaper than the dealer  :-/
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: PhilRich on 15 October 2009, 21:35:15
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Actually, I didn't realise the shop was selling it, I think it should be withdrawn

Actually guys, I bought the 2.2 DVD and found it very helpful. Granted it isn't ideal, but I had never attempted a job like that before and had no problems whatsoever :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: acura on 15 October 2009, 22:07:39
Thanks again for the advice.

Where would you recommend for the timing belt kit and water pump? Also the required locking wedge, is this a Vauxhall part or will a motor factor sell them?

Cheers
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: dbug on 15 October 2009, 22:35:16
Try these people - cheaper than Vx and kits are Contitech (one of the Vx oem suppliers - other is Gates) - I've used 2 of these for V6s and good quality, fast delivery and no probs to date!  Click - http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/timing-belts-and-kits-final.php?year=2001&Submit=Next&make=Vauxhall&model=Omega&sub=&eng=2.2000
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: rustym95 on 15 October 2009, 23:07:23
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Hi, just (yesterday) took delivery of my 02 2.2 auto Omega. It is off the road at present as I'm gonna do a full sevice and renew the timing belt/rollers/water pump etc.

There doesn't seem to be a Haines manual for this engine but one for the earlier 2.0

2 questions: will the 2.0 information in the Haines book do for the 2.2? and better still is there a 'how to' do this job on this forum? Forgive me if I've missed it.

I'm a competent home mechanic but need to know if I need any special tools etc before I start.

Thanks for any help.
is the same think its just the bore size dif,you will need to lock the top and bottom and some star sockets and 13m spanner and socket, and a rubber hammer to get the crank wheel off. :y

Its a 4 pot, you only lock the top
i had to lock the bottom as it keep'd moving.
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: dbug on 15 October 2009, 23:15:42
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Thanks again for the advice.

Where would you recommend for the timing belt kit and water pump? Also the required locking wedge, is this a Vauxhall part or will a motor factor sell them?

Cheers

WAter pump from same place as belt above, cam lock off ebay - you only need to lock top end on a 4 pot
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: TheBoy on 16 October 2009, 09:49:33
Most factors will sell a draper lock for around a fiver, though they may have to order it in (as its specific to a range of engines)
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: acura on 16 October 2009, 19:38:55
Cheers. I've ordered a lock from Laser so ok there. I've been onto eurocarparts and they have the Contitech kit and Vx quality water pumps. I guess Bosch oil filters and plugs are ok? I'll get all my stuff from them and give it a full service too.
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: tunnie on 16 October 2009, 22:36:02
yes water pump is a must too, its cambelt driven on 4 pot, and its worth replacing it, £45 odd (or what ever it is now) is cheaper than an engine rebuild if it fails.  :y
Title: Re: 2.2 Timing Belt change
Post by: Jukeboxnut on 16 October 2009, 23:18:36
Is the water pump for a 2.2 the same as the 2.0?  I ask this because the belt on my 2.2 estate is due for replacement soon and I still have a new pump that was never fitted to my old 2.0 estate (I have been saving it for my wifes 1.8 Vectra but that had the water pump changed just before I bought it).