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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: pedroMV6 on 24 October 2009, 13:49:36
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Whoever decided to put it at the back of the engine wants his knackers squeezed!
OK on a WWD car, as it's then on the side - even then it's on a big bracket. ::)
Anyhoo, I remember a guy over on VXON having to replace his dispack, and relocating it to the side of the engine.
I think he made a simple steel bracket and used the standard plug leads, although I think they were re-routed due to their length and looked a bit messy.
AFAIK, he was gonna tidy it up, but I'm buggered if I can find the thread on there now (this was quite a while ago now).
Anyone ever done this, and didn't the Catera have the dispack at the front of the engine?
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It's a PITA to get to, but how often do you want to remove it Pete? So far ...... :-X ...... I've not had any problems with my replacement after nearly 5 yrs. :y :y
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The DIS pack installation is the same on FW and RW drive cars.
And why re-locate it, the vast majority of cars only ever have it changed once during thier entire life (with many never needing changing).
Remember, the engine is designed for assembly into multiple applications, hence why its located where it is.
To me, the effort of moving it to yet another compromised location is not worth bothering
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Our local garage did the one on our Elite - royal PITA!!!!!!
Case of neede doing there and then, misfire was sudden and bloody terrible.
I know what you're saying about only doing it the once, etc - but if you only have a misfire and find the dispack at fault, then you have to remove it, note the part number, replace it (if you need your car), find a DP with the same number, fetch it, remove the original and fit the new one.
My thinking is remove the DP, relocate it, then if it does need replacing, ten minute job. :y
The Cav V6 engine I had, had a big numb bracket for the DP and three earthing wire points, plus a little lecky plug was held in it. ;)
So - why has the Catera got the DP at the front of the engine? ;)
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Someone has relocated their Dispack, I thought it was on here. I do see your logic, but it is a right pain to do, and should never need touching again - HOWEVER, I took the cheapskate approach & fitted one from the scrappy, a pain to do, then another pain when it blew! I suppose if I had gone along with your idea it would have been a 5 minute job the second time.
::)
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its a fiddle but easy enough with scuttle and wiper motor removed, a magnet on a stick and a decent quarter inch drive extension on a screw driver handel and the socket on the end as in halfords took kits. Far more agro to re locate i would think. Just spend the same time and effort swapping rather than re locating. Just making work for yourself surely? And you'll have ht leads over the top of the heads or under the plenum or the like?
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Just making work for yourself surely? And you'll have ht leads over the top of the heads or under the plenum or the like?
Exactly why I asked why the Catera has the DP at the front.
No real work for myself, as making a bracket isn't hard for me to do at work.
I look at it like I will one day have to fit a new DP, so may aswell relocate it to somewhere easier at my leisure, rather than being forced to do it - anyway, little things like this keep me opff the streets, where I could be mugging folk to feed my crack habit ;)
I'm kidding about the mugging and crack habit.
It's crystal meth................
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Just making work for yourself surely? And you'll have ht leads over the top of the heads or under the plenum or the like?
Exactly why I asked why the Catera has the DP at the front.
No real work for myself, as making a bracket isn't hard for me to do at work.
I look at it like I will one day have to fit a new DP, so may aswell relocate it to somewhere easier at my leisure, rather than being forced to do it - anyway, little things like this keep me opff the streets, where I could be mugging folk to feed my crack habit ;)
I'm kidding about the mugging and crack habit.
It's crystal meth................
I knew you where kidding, your in york not Liverpool. :-)
So the dis is not faulty now then? leave it until it fails ya nutter. ;)
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It is a crap place to put it. When I recently changed mine for one off another car, it took me that long to remove it from the donor car, not to mention lots of skinned Knuckles, that I couldnt face removing the original one so I just sat the replacement C/W new leads by the side of the engine and secured it with a couple of cable ties.
I did have to remove the oil filler neck to make room, but when I get round to it I intend to make a proper bracket. (http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/PROMSB/Picture.jpg)
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Bentvalve - I like that, I would never have thought the leads would reach. It certainly saves a lot of agro. :y
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It is a crap place to put it. When I recently changed mine for one off another car, it took me that long to remove it from the donor car, not to mention lots of skinned Knuckles, that I couldnt face removing the original one so I just sat the replacement C/W new leads by the side of the engine and secured it with a couple of cable ties.
I did have to remove the oil filler neck to make room, but when I get round to it I intend to make a proper bracket. (http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/PROMSB/Picture.jpg)
That's the one I was on about from VXON, isn't it?
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It is a crap place to put it. When I recently changed mine for one off another car, it took me that long to remove it from the donor car, not to mention lots of skinned Knuckles, that I couldnt face removing the original one so I just sat the replacement C/W new leads by the side of the engine and secured it with a couple of cable ties.
I did have to remove the oil filler neck to make room, but when I get round to it I intend to make a proper bracket. (http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/PROMSB/Picture.jpg)
Not sure about that mounting point, what do you change more, the dis pack or the oil? ::)
Removing / replacing the DIS is a lot easier with the scuttle removed, i did one by feel, took me about 30/40 mins to take off, about 20 to put back on.
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Bentvalve - I like that, I would never have thought the leads would reach. It certainly saves a lot of agro. :y
Original leads wont reach . I used unipart aftermarket leads :y
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It is a crap place to put it. When I recently changed mine for one off another car, it took me that long to remove it from the donor car, not to mention lots of skinned Knuckles, that I couldnt face removing the original one so I just sat the replacement C/W new leads by the side of the engine and secured it with a couple of cable ties.
I did have to remove the oil filler neck to make room, but when I get round to it I intend to make a proper bracket. (http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/PROMSB/Picture.jpg)
Not sure about that mounting point, what do you change more, the dis pack or the oil? ::)
Removing / replacing the DIS is a lot easier with the scuttle removed, i did one by feel, took me about 30/40 mins to take off, about 20 to put back on.
it sort of hinges up out of the way to get to the oilcap :y
I did remove the scuttle on the donor car( i should think the dis is almost impossible to remove with it in place)
I still found it hard work though and I couldnt be arsed doing it all over again ;D
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It is a crap place to put it. When I recently changed mine for one off another car, it took me that long to remove it from the donor car, not to mention lots of skinned Knuckles, that I couldnt face removing the original one so I just sat the replacement C/W new leads by the side of the engine and secured it with a couple of cable ties.
I did have to remove the oil filler neck to make room, but when I get round to it I intend to make a proper bracket. (http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/PROMSB/Picture.jpg)
That's the one I was on about from VXON, isn't it?
No.
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Found the one on VXON http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=180981&highlight=omega+dispack
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb55/saintnick_02/10June2008Day1004.jpg)
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Found the one on VXON .......
and that's better than where Vx put it? :-/ :-/ ;)
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Better thinking than GM - perhaps the execution could be better, but limitations of plug leads lengths I would think.
I think the DP was put there purely for manufacturing porpoises, but still, no one has told me why the Catera has it at the front.............
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.....porpoises,
What have dolphins got to do with it? ::) ;D
but still, no one has told me why the Catera has it at the front.............
Either the Americans hands are too big to get in or they're not tall enough to reach ..... ::) :y
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.....porpoises,
What have dolphins got to do with it? ::) ;D
You spotted that then mate! Hahaha!!!!
but still, no one has told me why the Catera has it at the front.............
Either the Americans hands are too big to get in or they're not tall enough to reach ..... ::) :y
It's a good answer but it's not right! (Probably). :y
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I have never seen a Caterra with it at the front?!
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Saw one in Florida and commented on it - owner told me they were all like that!
Was a pre-facelifted show car in Kissimmee.
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enter catera v6 or other variation in google images, not one dis pac visible in any image that i could see.
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enter catera v6 or other variation in google images, not one dis pac visible in any image that i could see.
Hmmm - you're right!
Moral - don't blindly believe everything that you're told! :y