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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: amba on 04 December 2009, 21:10:04
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I have noticed a very small leak..more like just damp..around the bottom of the 2 hoses that go into the heater matrix L/H side bulk head.
Do these pipes have a rubber seal inside which perishes over time?or is it just a matter of removing the pipe..cleaning the metal pipe connection on the matrix and refitting.
Sure this has been the source of my very small coolant leak as underside of pipe has definite traces of coolant.
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would save some time and taketop pipe off ( engine bay left pipe ) to the matrix and put some rad seal or raidiator fix in the pipe, then put back togerther and re-top up and run engine, will fix it with no hassle :y
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would save some time and taketop pipe off ( engine bay left pipe ) to the matrix and put some rad seal or raidiator fix in the pipe, then put back togerther and re-top up and run engine, will fix it with no hassle :y
I WOULD DISAGREE STRONGLY
radseal etc are BODGES .. if the car is worth having it is worth fixing properly. Radseal etc works by blocking (sealing) holes .. the matrix .. and the radiator... are nowt but a series of many small holes ... so there is a very good chance that your radseal will actually block something you wish to work. The expense of replacing that will be far greater than fixing a small leak properly.
Rant over
I HATE BODGES >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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would save some time and taketop pipe off ( engine bay left pipe ) to the matrix and put some rad seal or raidiator fix in the pipe, then put back togerther and re-top up and run engine, will fix it with no hassle :y
I WOULD DISAGREE STRONGLY
radseal etc are BODGES .. if the car is worth having it is worth fixing properly. Radseal etc works by blocking (sealing) holes .. the matrix .. and the radiator... are nowt but a series of many small holes ... so there is a very good chance that your radseal will actually block something you wish to work. The expense of replacing that will be far greater than fixing a small leak properly.
Rant over
I HATE BODGES >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
for a fact bodgers built cars fact, and its not a bodge it works as long as it is the liquid not the cement. :y
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would save some time and taketop pipe off ( engine bay left pipe ) to the matrix and put some rad seal or raidiator fix in the pipe, then put back togerther and re-top up and run engine, will fix it with no hassle :y
I WOULD DISAGREE STRONGLY
radseal etc are BODGES .. if the car is worth having it is worth fixing properly. Radseal etc works by blocking (sealing) holes .. the matrix .. and the radiator... are nowt but a series of many small holes ... so there is a very good chance that your radseal will actually block something you wish to work. The expense of replacing that will be far greater than fixing a small leak properly.
Rant over
I HATE BODGES >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
for a fact bodgers built cars fact, and its not a bodge it works as long as it is the liquid not the cement. :y
The Omega was not built that way! >:(
Rad seal is a very, VERY bad idea in modern cars. The tubes in the rad are so thin, rad seal just blocks them and causes more problems than it solves.
The leak is also around the HOSE, why on earth would rad seal solve this?
Any post on coolant leaks and you automatically suggest rad weld, you really should stop suggesting such a shite bodge >:(
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I have noticed a very small leak..more like just damp..around the bottom of the 2 hoses that go into the heater matrix L/H side bulk head.
Do these pipes have a rubber seal inside which perishes over time?or is it just a matter of removing the pipe..cleaning the metal pipe connection on the matrix and refitting.
Sure this has been the source of my very small coolant leak as underside of pipe has definite traces of coolant.
There's surely an o-ring of some sort in these connections. Whether it's easy to remove/replace I couldn't say. Disconnect the troublesome one and inspect.
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I have noticed a very small leak..more like just damp..around the bottom of the 2 hoses that go into the heater matrix L/H side bulk head.
Do these pipes have a rubber seal inside which perishes over time?or is it just a matter of removing the pipe..cleaning the metal pipe connection on the matrix and refitting.
Sure this has been the source of my very small coolant leak as underside of pipe has definite traces of coolant.
There's surely an o-ring of some sort in these connections. Whether it's easy to remove/replace I couldn't say. Disconnect the troublesome one and inspect.
Think its just a clip, i'd be checking the condition of the rubber hoses and plastic pipe connections, for any cracks. If you do replace, make sure you replace with that style clip. Jublie clips which are used everyware else like on air-intake, are not designed to be used on cooling / hot pipes, as they do not expand and contract
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would save some time and taketop pipe off ( engine bay left pipe ) to the matrix and put some rad seal or raidiator fix in the pipe, then put back togerther and re-top up and run engine, will fix it with no hassle :y
I WOULD DISAGREE STRONGLY
radseal etc are BODGES .. if the car is worth having it is worth fixing properly. Radseal etc works by blocking (sealing) holes .. the matrix .. and the radiator... are nowt but a series of many small holes ... so there is a very good chance that your radseal will actually block something you wish to work. The expense of replacing that will be far greater than fixing a small leak properly.
Rant over
I HATE BODGES >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
for a fact bodgers built cars fact, and its not a bodge it works as long as it is the liquid not the cement. :y
The Omega was not built that way! >:(
Rad seal is a very, VERY bad idea in modern cars. The tubes in the rad are so thin, rad seal just blocks them and causes more problems than it solves.
The leak is also around the HOSE, why on earth would rad seal solve this?
Any post on coolant leaks and you automatically suggest rad weld, you really should stop suggesting such a shite bodge >:(
you not using it right then, shake the bottle, ive never had problems with it used it for over 10years no problems with any blocking, and cars (e.t.c) are bonged if not how can they change there parts to work better, every time a new car is made it is boged together then tested. no one can get it right first time. 5-10 years to make a car upto spec, most cars.
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would save some time and taketop pipe off ( engine bay left pipe ) to the matrix and put some rad seal or raidiator fix in the pipe, then put back togerther and re-top up and run engine, will fix it with no hassle :y
I WOULD DISAGREE STRONGLY
radseal etc are BODGES .. if the car is worth having it is worth fixing properly. Radseal etc works by blocking (sealing) holes .. the matrix .. and the radiator... are nowt but a series of many small holes ... so there is a very good chance that your radseal will actually block something you wish to work. The expense of replacing that will be far greater than fixing a small leak properly.
Rant over
I HATE BODGES >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
for a fact bodgers built cars fact, and its not a bodge it works as long as it is the liquid not the cement. :y
The Omega was not built that way! >:(
Rad seal is a very, VERY bad idea in modern cars. The tubes in the rad are so thin, rad seal just blocks them and causes more problems than it solves.
The leak is also around the HOSE, why on earth would rad seal solve this?
Any post on coolant leaks and you automatically suggest rad weld, you really should stop suggesting such a shite bodge >:(
you not using it right then, shake the bottle, ive never had problems with it used it for over 10years no problems with any blocking, and cars (e.t.c) are bonged if not how can they change there parts to work better, every time a new car is made it is boged together then tested. no one can get it right first time. 5-10 years to make a car upto spec, most cars.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just please stop advising people to use it. Its of no use in this case anyway.
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Thanks for advise guys....I won,t be using any sealant of any description as it never needed it before.
Looks like I will remove weaping hose...have a good look..clean up pipe and refit ensuring pipe and fitting are fully seated.
Just curios if it had any rubber type replaceable seal.
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Thanks for advise guys....I won,t be using any sealant of any description as it never needed it before.
Looks like I will remove weaping hose...have a good look..clean up pipe and refit ensuring pipe and fitting are fully seated.
Just curios if it had any rubber type replaceable seal.
IIRC the connections at the bulkhead are quick release couplings with o-rings in.
When I took my engine out I couldn't work out how to release them with the engine in the way ::) so I undid the connections at the engine and went back later to undo them.
When they are free they work as intended but if they haven't been touched for years they are a pain to separate.
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I have never needed to remove them in my ownership,its just that the other morning I noticed a damp are directly below the bottom of the 2 hoses.
When I rubbed my finger around the pipe ther was evidence of a slight leak and the taste test confirmed coolant not rain water.
Hope my search has found my mysterious coolant leak...about an egg cup full a few 100 miles.
Not too fazzed about removing the connections as guide gives good description just wondered if they had a washer or similar inside that may have perished as connecting pipes feel tightly secured so puzzled why the leak.