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Title: Gang Threats?
Post by: HI2DVY on 14 December 2007, 17:16:32
Apologies if this has appeared on the forum before but I have just received a notice from our HR department regarding the latest Gang craze...

Warning - We have received a warning from the London Ambulance Service of activities in their area.  Whilst the below behaviour is not common place in our area I have spoken with Greater Manchester Police and their risk assessment of the action is to circulate it as a potential'

 

The London Ambulance service have units closely associated with the Police based in South London who are basically Fighting Gang Crimes. The 'street gangs' in London (particularly South London at present, but it is sure to spread) have initiation tasks which new gang members have to carry out to be admitted to the 'gang'. The latest craze is to drive around, deliberately with no lights on their cars. The first person who 'flashes' them, points at them or sounds their horn at them, has to be followed by that new gang member in their car, who then has to fire a shot into that vehicle with no regard as to who is inside.


Our official instruction is that if we see a vehicle with no lights on, we are NOT to 'flash' it etc. and the advice to friends and family is that you should ignore any vehicles you see without lights. I would ask that you pass this info on to all your family, friends and colleagues and who knows, it may save a life.

 

 I wondered if anyone has yet experienced this or whether our members on the "force" could comment?


Dave
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: Crazydad on 14 December 2007, 17:23:10
What the hell is  going on in the heads of young people today >:( >:(

Lets hope that this sort of behavior can be stopped.
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: miggy on 14 December 2007, 17:30:48
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What the hell is  going on in the heads of young people today >:( >:(

Lets hope that this sort of behavior can be stopped.

Thats the problem, not a lot. most cannot put 2 words together, these are just low pond life with a knats pr"ck as a brain cell.


Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: HI2DVY on 14 December 2007, 17:41:01
Just had another email saying this may actually be a hoax!

Maybe so - but its that kind of thing that put these ideas into nutters heads.
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: sir moanalot on 14 December 2007, 17:55:40
this "action" was recently on a film i watched- urban legend.
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: Markie on 14 December 2007, 18:09:23
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Just had another email saying this may actually be a hoax!

Maybe so - but its that kind of thing that put these ideas into nutters heads.

Dont think its a hoax, maybe an urban myth.... :-/

I started reading this out to some of my team and one guy nodded as another finished the story off.....so true or false it seems to be spreading around....

Shocking if true...
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: Tab on 14 December 2007, 18:11:14
so you could be risking your life(and your missus/kids lives) if you flash someone with no lights on.

doesn't bear thinking about :(
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: Jay w on 14 December 2007, 18:13:46
that worries me as i do it out of politness, must stop being so helpful
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: STMO123 on 14 December 2007, 18:20:55
Or, of course, you could start carrying a gun and just shoot anyone with no lights on. Sorted. :y
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: theolodian on 14 December 2007, 18:54:02
Old urban legend.
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 December 2007, 18:59:25
Urban legend

They would not do it to just anybody as they could get plain clothes cops, or just bigger people than them.

Put it this way if anyone came after me I would win.

Even if I need to accelerate flat out in reverse into their bonnet.

Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: theolodian on 14 December 2007, 19:03:55
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Urban legend

They would not do it to just anybody as they could get plain clothes cops, or just bigger people than them.

Put it this way if anyone came after me I would win.

Even if I need to accelerate flat out in reverse into their bonnet.

There's only one rule when you feel seriously threatened, no hesitation.
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 December 2007, 19:11:27
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Urban legend

They would not do it to just anybody as they could get plain clothes cops, or just bigger people than them.

Put it this way if anyone came after me I would win.

Even if I need to accelerate flat out in reverse into their bonnet.

There's only one rule when you feel seriously threatened, no hesitation.

I have dealt with dangerous drivers before - 1 phone call - helped knowing someone with a company Senator in white with extra lighting
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 December 2007, 19:36:05
Definately a hoax, come across it lots in my job(s)
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: theolodian on 14 December 2007, 19:40:49
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Urban legend

They would not do it to just anybody as they could get plain clothes cops, or just bigger people than them.

Put it this way if anyone came after me I would win.

Even if I need to accelerate flat out in reverse into their bonnet.

There's only one rule when you feel seriously threatened, no hesitation.

I have dealt with dangerous drivers before - 1 phone call - helped knowing someone with a company Senator in white with extra lighting
That sounds good at first, but on further thought I don't know how much that would help.  In a very literal sense I don't know, you never see cops so how can you know what effect they would have on a situation?  Maybe that's part of the cachet, the criminals don't know either?  

This isn't a knock on members of the police force, more about reliance on CCTV and other cameras instead of actual people.  Ends up being more about punishment and paperwork than safety and prevention.
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 December 2007, 19:47:53
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Or, of course, you could start carrying a gun and just shoot anyone with no lights on. Sorted. :y

yep..this will sort the problem completely.. ;D

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Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 December 2007, 20:07:56
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Urban legend

They would not do it to just anybody as they could get plain clothes cops, or just bigger people than them.

Put it this way if anyone came after me I would win.

Even if I need to accelerate flat out in reverse into their bonnet.

There's only one rule when you feel seriously threatened, no hesitation.

I have dealt with dangerous drivers before - 1 phone call - helped knowing someone with a company Senator in white with extra lighting
That sounds good at first, but on further thought I don't know how much that would help.  In a very literal sense I don't know, you never see cops so how can you know what effect they would have on a situation?  Maybe that's part of the cachet, the criminals don't know either?  

This isn't a knock on members of the police force, more about reliance on CCTV and other cameras instead of actual people.  Ends up being more about punishment and paperwork than safety and prevention.


I am a member of a preserved railway, a local traffic cop is as well, I had his phone number so was able to circumvent things.
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 14 December 2007, 20:23:43
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Urban legend

They would not do it to just anybody as they could get plain clothes cops, or just bigger people than them.

Put it this way if anyone came after me I would win.

Even if I need to accelerate flat out in reverse into their bonnet.


Ahh but you have a shin breaker fitted to the rear of yours Martin..........that would do a lot more damage than without it  ;)
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: Auto Addict on 14 December 2007, 21:09:24
I've heard that around Munich, they drive the wrong way on the Autobahn without lights at night..... :-?
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: Chopsdad on 14 December 2007, 21:12:17
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Or, of course, you could start carrying a gun and just shoot anyone with no lights on. Sorted. :y

Common STMO sense prevails  ;D
Title: Re: Gang Threats?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 December 2007, 21:20:42
The fact about violance is..

 once you face a gun in your nose, forget about civilization and rules what you have learned upto..

you will wake up into reality..