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Title: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: Ridgeback on 29 December 2009, 11:19:50
With the recent icy conditions, I've noticed that the ABS does not appear to work, just locks up the brakes.
What is the minimum speed that the ABS works at, as I remember my old Vectra did not work at low speed.
I've noticed that the ABS light does not come on and go off when ignition is turned on.
Had a diagnostic check recently for a stalling issue but did not pick up any ABS fault codes.
Any thoughts appreciated
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: KillerWatt on 29 December 2009, 14:05:13
If the ABS lamp is not illuminating and extinguishing in the preset time, first thing I'd suspect is that the ABS is not even getting power.

Having said that, ABS is not going to prevent wheel lock on ice anyway.
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2009, 14:10:55
as mentioned ABS only really works on loose gravel and wet roads, even with the small amount of ice down my road, doing sub 10mph, i had the fronts lock, trick is on ice is to never touch the brake. Think much futher ahead, just take you foot off the gas and let it roll to a stop, if you need braking, use the cluch.

Today with it being wet everyware, take it to a carpark / empty road, and stamp on the brakes, see what happends.
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2009, 14:11:13
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If the ABS lamp is not illuminating and extinguishing in the preset time, first thing I'd suspect is that the ABS is not even getting power.

Having said that, ABS is not going to prevent wheel lock on ice anyway.
It will still try very hard, so will cut in.
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: RobG on 29 December 2009, 14:45:39
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as mentioned ABS only really works on loose gravel and wet roads, even with the small amount of ice down my road, doing sub 10mph, i had the fronts lock, trick is on ice is to never touch the brake. Think much futher ahead, just take you foot off the gas and let it roll to a stop, if you need braking, use the cluch.

Today with it being wet everyware, take it to a carpark / empty road, and stamp on the brakes, see what happends.
What if you`re a two-pedal man ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2009, 14:47:18
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as mentioned ABS only really works on loose gravel and wet roads, even with the small amount of ice down my road, doing sub 10mph, i had the fronts lock, trick is on ice is to never touch the brake. Think much futher ahead, just take you foot off the gas and let it roll to a stop, if you need braking, use the cluch.

Today with it being wet everyware, take it to a carpark / empty road, and stamp on the brakes, see what happends.
What if you`re a two-pedal man ::) ::) ;D

Put it in "1" from D, thats about the best you can do, or stick it in N, then 1

Otherwise your stuffed  ;D
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: RobG on 29 December 2009, 14:50:32
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as mentioned ABS only really works on loose gravel and wet roads, even with the small amount of ice down my road, doing sub 10mph, i had the fronts lock, trick is on ice is to never touch the brake. Think much futher ahead, just take you foot off the gas and let it roll to a stop, if you need braking, use the cluch.

Today with it being wet everyware, take it to a carpark / empty road, and stamp on the brakes, see what happends.
What if you`re a two-pedal man ::) ::) ;D

Put it in "1" from D, thats about the best you can do, or stick it in N, then 1

Otherwise your stuffed  ;D
:P :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: Proz on 29 December 2009, 15:32:58
Is it possible the bulb has been removed to hide a fault .... it should light then go of when ignition turned on shouldnt it ?
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: Entwood on 29 December 2009, 17:15:41
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Is it possible the bulb has been removed to hide a fault .... it should light then go of when ignition turned on shouldnt it ?


I'm with this one ... my betting is if you put a bulb in it will stay on to show you have an ABS fault.

BTW .. on my MOT the "computer print out" gave the examiner specific instructions on checking the ABS light comes on then extinguishes.... if it hadn't it would have been a fail .. simple .. :)
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: dbug on 29 December 2009, 19:42:25
Agreed as above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: Ridgeback on 30 December 2009, 10:17:38
That was my initial thought as the car came with a few undeclared faults that have manifested themselves over time.
It had a diagnostic check recently for a stalling issue, and this wasn't detected.
Looks like a dash out job to confirm, but not until the weather improves.
If it's been like this since we bought it, a few more weeks isn't going to matter.
My 05 Golf's ABS works right down as low as 2-3 MPH.
Thanks for all your suggestions
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Is it possible the bulb has been removed to hide a fault .... it should light then go of when ignition turned on shouldnt it ?


I'm with this one ... my betting is if you put a bulb in it will stay on to show you have an ABS fault.

BTW .. on my MOT the "computer print out" gave the examiner specific instructions on checking the ABS light comes on then extinguishes.... if it hadn't it would have been a fail .. simple .. :)
Title: Re: ABS Working?? 2002 2.2CD Estate
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 December 2009, 11:19:53
Speedo would not be working if ABS was completely dead. Also, the warning light is wired to illuminate unless the ECU has power and is happy, so if the fuse had failed, etc. it would still light.

I reckon bulb failed or removed to hide fault.

Kevin