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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: tunnie on 03 January 2010, 14:15:08
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Windscreen Washer jets bunged up on me last night, it can't be the gauze in the tank, i am getting water to the jets.
Drivers side, 1 of the 2 jets bunged, i stipped the scuttle down checked all the pipe work and gave the jet a clean with a pin.
But on the way to work it failed again, i think something is lodged in the back of the jet someware, passenger side is very weak too, one jet was strong, but again, fiddling with it made it worse.
Going to strip it down fully on Tuesday and drop the jets in some hot water, but was wondering on replacements?
Does anyone with TIS / Trade Book have a price for them? If they are sub £20 each i might as well buy a couple of new ones, old ones look a bit naggered
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Yeah I reckon your jets are getting iced up.
As I said mine were blocked up this morning on the way out for a nice carvery meal. Parked up in full sun to purposely thaw out the front of the car, all clear now even though it was still -1c
Mick
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Windscreen Washer jets bunged up on me last night, it can't be the gauze in the tank, i am getting water to the jets.
Drivers side, 1 of the 2 jets bunged, i stipped the scuttle down checked all the pipe work and gave the jet a clean with a pin.
But on the way to work it failed again, i think something is lodged in the back of the jet someware, passenger side is very weak too, one jet was strong, but again, fiddling with it made it worse.
Going to strip it down fully on Tuesday and drop the jets in some hot water, but was wondering on replacements?
Does anyone with TIS / Trade Book have a price for them? If they are sub £20 each i might as well buy a couple of new ones, old ones look a bit naggered
Sure there isent a block of ice lodged somewhere tunnie. :-/
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Windscreen Washer jets bunged up on me last night, it can't be the gauze in the tank, i am getting water to the jets. ......
Split/break the joint on the wing, and use an air line on a jet to blast any sh1te back down the pipe, obviously blocking off the other 3 jets as you do so. Use plenty of hot water on the pipe before you try to split the join to soften it up a bit or you risk breaking things ....... :y :y :y
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Cheers all, could be ice, drivers side, right hand jet clogged up on the way back (was working fine, then one jet turned to a dribble)
Poked it and then both jets turned to dribble, stipped down, more poking and both returned to normal. Then driving in this morning (ok it was -2, jet bunged again)
I think something is floating around in there, hot water and some carb cleaner i think.
I keep saying i should buy a compressor, but i really, really should!
Andy - Joint on the wing? Not sure what you mean? :-/ Do you mean the pipe that runs from the tank along the passenger side to the scuttle?
When i did take the jet off, there was a ball bearing at one end, which fell off :( But when i used the jet, water did not blast out so hope its ok.
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Cheers all, could be ice, drivers side, right hand jet clogged up on the way back (was working fine, then one jet turned to a dribble)
Poked it and then both jets turned to dribble, stipped down, more poking and both returned to normal. Then driving in this morning (ok it was -2, jet bunged again)
I think something is floating around in there, hot water and some carb cleaner i think.
I keep saying i should buy a compressor, but i really, really should!
Andy - Joint on the wing? Not sure what you mean? :-/ Do you mean the pipe that runs from the tank along the passenger side to the scuttle?
When i did take the jet off, there was a ball bearing at one end, which fell off :( But when i used the jet, water did not blast out so hope its ok.
Just a bit of a coincidence mate that its blocked during the icy conditions were experiencing. :y
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its been colder and they have worked, i think something has made its way into the tank maybe from me filling it, and has got stuck in the jets
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its been colder and they have worked, i think something has made its way into the tank maybe from me filling it, and has got stuck in the jets
I suppose you could always try tipping in neat screenwash,to see if it would melt any ice if any,suppose it depends on how much water is still left in the bottle though,just mind your paintwork. ;)
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its been colder and they have worked, i think something has made its way into the tank maybe from me filling it, and has got stuck in the jets
I suppose you could always try tipping in neat screenwash,to see if it would melt any ice if any,suppose it depends on how much water is still left in the bottle though,just mind your paintwork. ;)
Cheers, i'll be taking the jets off the scuttle, and working on them seperatly
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Andy - Joint on the wing? Not sure what you mean? :-/ Do you mean the pipe that runs from the tank along the passenger side to the scuttle? ......
Yes! IIRC when I fitted facelift washers to my car there is a join in the pipe along the wing somewhere.
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Cheers, i'll be taking the jets off the scuttle, and working on them seperatly
Astra G's appear to have the same washer nozzles if you ever 'browse' scrap yards
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Andy - Joint on the wing? Not sure what you mean? :-/ Do you mean the pipe that runs from the tank along the passenger side to the scuttle? ......
Yes! IIRC when I fitted facelift washers to my car there is a join in the pipe along the wing somewhere.
Cheers, i'll have a look :y
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I thought Omegas had heated windscreen nozzles? Mine has, 'cos when they gave up the ghost I had to go see my local Vauxhall dealer to get some. Not particularly cheap :(
Neat screen wash can cause more problems than it's worth. It can gum up the pump and the nozzles if you're not careful. Our firms MT workshop swear at the stuff as we put more in to keep the washer water liquid!
Humpy
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Nozzles might be heated but the pipes to them are not .... so you still get ice in the pipes which stops/reduces flow....
If they were going to heat the nozzles why not go the whole hog and heat the pipes as well ??? not rocket science .. :(
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why not go the whole hog and heat the pipes as well ??? not rocket science .. :(
How would you do it ....as cheaply as possible? Electric trace heating, heat from the cooling system? It'd still need to be relatively unobtrusive. :y :y
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Nozzles might be heated but the pipes to them are not .... so you still get ice in the pipes which stops/reduces flow....
If they were going to heat the nozzles why not go the whole hog and heat the pipes as well ??? not rocket science .. :(
But surely the heat from the engine would thaw them out,especially from a 3.0 :-/
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Doesnt have to be fancy or hot .. so a long thin element inside the length of the feed pipe, just enough current to raise the temp say 10 degrees ?? maybe even 5.
I doubt the pipes themselves hold more than 10 CC of water.... to raise 1CC by 1 degree takes aproximately 4 joules, so to raise 10 cc by 5 degrees is 200 joules .. 1 joule/minute is 0.02 watts..... so if you did that in 1 minute it would only require 4 watts/minute or 4/12 amps ... 1/3 amp !!! or 2/3 an amp to raise it 10 degrees .
You don't need to heat any more than the pipe water as the large mass of water in the tank rarely freezes.. it is the small mass in the pipe that is affected.
:)
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to raise 1CC by 1 degree takes aproximately 4 joules, so to raise 10 cc by 5 degrees is 200 joules .. 1 joule/minute is 0.02 watts..... so if you did that in 1 minute it would only require 4 watts/minute or 4/12 amps ... 1/3 amp !!! or 2/3 an amp to raise it 10 degrees . ......
I'm impressed that you knew where to start with the maths/physics! ;) ;) ;)
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Doesnt have to be fancy or hot .. so a long thin element inside the length of the feed pipe, just enough current to raise the temp say 10 degrees ?? maybe even 5.
I doubt the pipes themselves hold more than 10 CC of water.... to raise 1CC by 1 degree takes aproximately 4 joules, so to raise 10 cc by 5 degrees is 200 joules .. 1 joule/minute is 0.02 watts..... so if you did that in 1 minute it would only require 4 watts/minute or 4/12 amps ... 1/3 amp !!! or 2/3 an amp to raise it 10 degrees .
You don't need to heat any more than the pipe water as the large mass of water in the tank rarely freezes.. it is the small mass in the pipe that is affected.
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oooooh,somebody done his maths at school. ;D ;D ;)
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to raise 1CC by 1 degree takes aproximately 4 joules, so to raise 10 cc by 5 degrees is 200 joules .. 1 joule/minute is 0.02 watts..... so if you did that in 1 minute it would only require 4 watts/minute or 4/12 amps ... 1/3 amp !!! or 2/3 an amp to raise it 10 degrees . ......
I'm impressed that you knew where to start with the maths/physics! ;) ;) ;)
A level maths & physics, degree in maths & computing , but most importantly .. my "basic" RAF training as an Air Engineer... in the days when you were not allowed to touch anything until you had proved you both knew and understood the theory behind how and why it worked.
Taught by hairy old Master Engineers, Warrant Officers and Chief Technicians whose prime purpose in life, we thought, was to prove beyond doubt just how stupid we all were.
The amazing fact is; not only did I somehow pass the course but 30 odd years later I was one of those Master Engineers giving the new generation a hard time .... :)
Loved it, and am still surprised by how much I remember... they taught us well in them days .. :)
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to raise 1CC by 1 degree takes aproximately 4 joules, so to raise 10 cc by 5 degrees is 200 joules .. 1 joule/minute is 0.02 watts..... so if you did that in 1 minute it would only require 4 watts/minute or 4/12 amps ... 1/3 amp !!! or 2/3 an amp to raise it 10 degrees . ......
I'm impressed that you knew where to start with the maths/physics! ;) ;) ;)
A level maths & physics, degree in maths & computing , but most importantly .. my "basic" RAF training as an Air Engineer... in the days when you were not allowed to touch anything until you had proved you both knew and understood the theory behind how and why it worked.
Taught by hairy old Master Engineers, Warrant Officers and Chief Technicians whose prime purpose in life, we thought, was to prove beyond doubt just how stupid we all were.
The amazing fact is; not only did I somehow pass the course but 30 odd years later I was one of those Master Engineers giving the new generation a hard time .... :)
Loved it, and am still surprised by how much I remember... they taught us well in them days .. :)
I'm suitably impressed!
I can remember the value & colours for resistors but not allowed to use the aid memoir anymore in these PC times! :-[ :-[ :-[ ;)
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is that the one that starts
Bad Boys Ravage Only Young Girls .... ?? for 0,1,2,3,4,5 .... etc etc :)
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washer only, as they are in airflow (1C for every 10mph iirc), and a narrow channel. The tubes won't freeze any more than the bottle.
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Nyway, back to the topic, did you ever find out what it was? My drivers side jet has one jet clogged as well and I have been to lazy to check it out . . . . . . .
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is that the one that starts
Bad Boys Ravage Only Young Girls .... ?? for 0,1,2,3,4,5 .... etc etc :)
That must be the recent PC version but did the virgins still go without? ;D ;D ;D
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is that the one that starts
Bad Boys Ravage Only Young Girls .... ?? for 0,1,2,3,4,5 .... etc etc :)
That must be the recent PC version but did the virgins still go without? ;D ;D ;D
No ....... But Violet Gave Willingly (for Silver or Gold) .... :)
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is that the one that starts
Bad Boys Ravage Only Young Girls .... ?? for 0,1,2,3,4,5 .... etc etc :)
That must be the recent PC version but did the virgins still go without? ;D ;D ;D
No ....... But Violet Gave Willingly (for Silver or Gold) .... :)
;D ;D ;D I'll have to try to remember that version! :y
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The human brain is really most odd ... I can remember crap like that from 1970 that I haven't used .. along with SOC CAH TOA and other such nefarious things ... but I forget where I've left me keys 5 minutes ago !!
Ain't old age fun !!! :)
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SOH CAH TOA? Isn't that east of Java ;D Sine=Opposite over Hypoteneuse, Cosine=Adjacent over Hypoteneuse, Tangent=Opposite over Adjacent Yeah I remember that. S'funny what sticks in your mind. Telecoms cable colour code, Watneys Red Barrel Yuk Violently-White Red Black Yellow Violet. And why was grey always Slate? Sorry gone right off topic.
Humpy
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Ain't old age fun !!! :)
I'll let you know!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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to raise 1CC by 1 degree takes aproximately 4 joules, so to raise 10 cc by 5 degrees is 200 joules .. 1 joule/minute is 0.02 watts..... so if you did that in 1 minute it would only require 4 watts/minute or 4/12 amps ... 1/3 amp !!! or 2/3 an amp to raise it 10 degrees . ......
I'm impressed that you knew where to start with the maths/physics! ;) ;) ;)
A level maths & physics, degree in maths & computing , but most importantly .. my "basic" RAF training as an Air Engineer... in the days when you were not allowed to touch anything until you had proved you both knew and understood the theory behind how and why it worked.
Taught by hairy old Master Engineers, Warrant Officers and Chief Technicians whose prime purpose in life, we thought, was to prove beyond doubt just how stupid we all were.
The amazing fact is; not only did I somehow pass the course but 30 odd years later I was one of those Master Engineers giving the new generation a hard time .... :)
Loved it, and am still surprised by how much I remember... they taught us well in them days .. :)
Fairplay to you entwood (brainy git) ;D ;D :y