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Title: Keep battery working better
Post by: rustym95 on 08 January 2010, 08:31:24
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130344791823&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
free P&P only £3.90, Granville bat aid revitalises old batteries. :y
winter weather use's more of your battery and makes it not work to its full,. hope this helps any one.

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=Granville+Bat+Aid+Battery+&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_dmpt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&_odkw=Granville+Bat+Aid+Battery+Tablets&_osacat=0
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2010, 09:46:59
All those tablets are pretty ineffective ime.  Once you battery is shagged, its shagged. Get a new one and move on.
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: Entwood on 08 January 2010, 10:08:08
snake oil / bodge.

If it's broke fix it.

:)
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: Seth on 08 January 2010, 10:46:20
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All those tablets are pretty ineffective ime.  Once you battery is shagged, its shagged. Get a new one and move on.
Dead right!
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: rustym95 on 08 January 2010, 10:49:52
well dont use them on a shaged battery, they only clean the cell's out not fix a shagged battery, shagged battery's the cell's have gone any way, they only keep a good battery good and last a bit longer.
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: Elite Pete on 08 January 2010, 11:01:42
Rusty, can you tell me where you got the battery from with the 25 year guarantee. :y
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: rustym95 on 08 January 2010, 11:06:00
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Rusty, can you tell me where you got the battery from with the 25 year guarantee. :y
duracell online not acid battery its gel think it was £189.+vat + p&p. oh and 12.5v 65ah
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: Steve Brookman on 08 January 2010, 11:20:48
I bought  a new battery for the other halfs Elite on Monday-battery seemed to be getting low on power (checked receipt it was 5 years old) - cost £58 with a 4 year guarantee. Due to snow haven't fitted it yet.
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: djac on 08 January 2010, 11:53:41
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Rusty, can you tell me where you got the battery from with the 25 year guarantee. :y
duracell online not acid battery its gel think it was £189.+vat + p&p. oh and 12.5v 65ah

Have you got a link for the Duracell car battery? I've looked on the Duracell Direct web site, can't find any links for car batteries  :(
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 January 2010, 12:02:50
Quite a few links here.  Am off to have a nosey later on.

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&ei=ih5HS-e5EqOi0gTjvrzxAQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CBIQBSgA&q=065+gel+battery&spell=1&fp=698b2be80cf6bcd7
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: Entwood on 08 January 2010, 16:41:08
According to the USA sites ... Duracell started to produce a "specalist" Vehicle/RV/Marine battery in December 2009.

http://www.markeidiotch.com/story/duracell-introduces-power-solutions-for-automotive-marine-and-rv-vehicles-with-new-batteries-that-meet-their-evolving-needs-2009-12-16

More info at the USA Duracell site

http://driveduracell.com/default.aspx?pageid=10

There is no mention of a 25 year warranty anywhere that I can find.

Anywhere.
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 January 2010, 17:16:15
Offering a 25 year warranty on any size battery of any current technology sounds like a hiding to bankruptcy to me.

I'm trying to recall a battery I've had that ever lasted that long and I can think of one. It's a lithium cell used to back up memory in a device I have. Wouldn't start an Omega though. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 January 2010, 17:27:23
That stuff looks to be EDTA which does work to de-sulphate the battery plates.

And contary to popular belief, you can re-juvinate what appears to be a goosed battery using various methods but, you only need to use this sort of stuff once they are showing signs of problems

The challenge would of course be getting some into a sealed battery.
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 January 2010, 17:37:30
I have used Bat-Aid in the battery in the previous tin-top. Added a tablet per cell when I had the feeling it was getting a bit ropey. Battery lasted for a good few years after that. It eventually failed suddenly, and to zero volts, at a motorway services, so probably an internal open-circuit.

I tapped an RAC guy for a jump start and he nearly wet himself when he saw it. Said he thought every Renault OE battery of that era died after 2-3 years at the most yet here it was 9 years later.

That battery was technically "maintenance free" but it did have cell caps that could be prised off with a little effort. Not sure if the GM ones would be as amenable.

Kevin
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2010, 17:42:18
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I have used Bat-Aid in the battery in the previous tin-top. Added a tablet per cell when I had the feeling it was getting a bit ropey. Battery lasted for a good few years after that. It eventually failed suddenly, and to zero volts, at a motorway services, so probably an internal open-circuit.

I tapped an RAC guy for a jump start and he nearly wet himself when he saw it. Said he thought every Renault OE battery of that era died after 2-3 years at the most yet here it was 9 years later.

That battery was technically "maintenance free" but it did have cell caps that could be prised off with a little effort. Not sure if the GM ones would be as amenable.

Kevin
The little Rover is still on its OE, that 10yrs old in April.  Actually, it was built in Feb, passed over to sales in march.  My old Acclaim was on its OE battery after 10yrs as well.  Come to that, so was TAVvy (my old Rover 216GSi).  Thumbs up to Rover battery suppliers ;D

MV6 one failed at around 8yrs, Go one on there now
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: tunnie on 08 January 2010, 17:45:03
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According to the USA sites ... Duracell started to produce a "specalist" Vehicle/RV/Marine battery in December 2009.

http://www.markeidiotch.com/story/duracell-introduces-power-solutions-for-automotive-marine-and-rv-vehicles-with-new-batteries-that-meet-their-evolving-needs-2009-12-16

More info at the USA Duracell site

http://driveduracell.com/default.aspx?pageid=10

There is no mention of a 25 year warranty anywhere that I can find.

Anywhere.

You must be mistaken Entwood, Rustys battery is 25 years old, so that battery must have been developed in 1984. Then only made available to him...

I do wonder about some of his posts  :-/
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: MickAP on 08 January 2010, 17:55:42
The battery on the TD estate is the original (2000), still starts it in -8 temps.
Am I tempting fate here ::)

Mick ;)
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: ffcgary1 on 08 January 2010, 18:07:49
As far as i am concerned, the only way to keep a battery in good order is to make sure that it is always fully charged and kept in a clean condition with clean terminals liberaly covered in petrolium jelly.
If the battery is more than 6/7 years old it will not be as Fresh as a new one and could be on it's way out although that is not always the case. :y
Title: Re: Keep battery working better
Post by: rustym95 on 08 January 2010, 21:05:15
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According to the USA sites ... Duracell started to produce a "specalist" Vehicle/RV/Marine battery in December 2009.

http://www.markeidiotch.com/story/duracell-introduces-power-solutions-for-automotive-marine-and-rv-vehicles-with-new-batteries-that-meet-their-evolving-needs-2009-12-16

More info at the USA Duracell site

http://driveduracell.com/default.aspx?pageid=10

There is no mention of a 25 year warranty anywhere that I can find.

Anywhere.

You must be mistaken Entwood, Rustys battery is 25 years old, so that battery must have been developed in 1984. Then only made available to him...

I do wonder about some of his posts  :-/
i never said it was 25 years old  its over year old just, but if you wont a 25year old one i know were there is one well older and still works, came of a bentley. why would i wont a battery in 1984, could not put on a push bike.