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Title: HBV
Post by: dbug on 29 December 2009, 19:31:08
How long to swap HBV on V6 ?  Is there a howto?
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2009, 19:43:09
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1193594464

Easy to find in the maint index  ;)
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: dbug on 29 December 2009, 19:48:09
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1193594464

Easy to find in the maint index  ;)

Thanx Tunnie - lazyness rules ok  ;)

Know how to get it out - just wanted confirmation that plenum could stay on - more interested in a time from one who has done this - particularly in this cold snap !!!
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2009, 19:54:19
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1193594464

Easy to find in the maint index  ;)

Thanx Tunnie - lazyness rules ok  ;)

Know how to get it out - just wanted confirmation that plenum could stay on - more interested in a time from one who has done this - particularly in this cold snap !!!

Times will vary, what DTM does in minutes, takes the rest of us hours  ;D ;D
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: dbug on 29 December 2009, 20:27:45
Would have thought an hour and half should see this through?
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: Jimbob on 29 December 2009, 21:04:38
Ive done it without removing scuttle or plenum

fiddley, but doable in 15 minutes  :y
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: GPar on 29 December 2009, 23:21:02
Remove scuttle but not plenum and get a pair of those special pliars to remove the hose clips. About an hour with a lot of stretching!

Geoff
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: The Red Baron on 29 December 2009, 23:26:15
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Would have thought an hour and half should see this through?
with ten coffee breaks maybe.
scuttle off & about 15 mins to half hour i would say. ;D
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: dbug on 30 December 2009, 02:08:22
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Ive done it without removing scuttle or plenum

fiddley, but doable in 15 minutes  :y

Want to do mine Jim?
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: Bionic on 30 December 2009, 08:01:03
Took me 20 minutes in all. Dead easy and no skin loss for once. Hardest part was getting the top lip of the scuttle back under the windscreen seal.
Give it a good run and bleed off afterwards with the Vac pipe off the HBV to make it stay wide open. Cabin temp set to maximum. Replace when it has been fully air bled and topped up to its correct level with coolant.
GudLuk
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 30 December 2009, 08:10:44
Does it knacker your back? all that bending over.
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: Jimbob on 30 December 2009, 09:05:57
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Ive done it without removing scuttle or plenum

fiddley, but doable in 15 minutes  :y

Want to do mine Jim?


If your passing this way  :y
3 hours drive each way not very appealing  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 30 December 2009, 10:37:55
Bit of a stupid question - but do you have to drain the cooling system totally or just top up what was lost?
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: dbug on 30 December 2009, 11:57:14
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Ive done it without removing scuttle or plenum

fiddley, but doable in 15 minutes  :y

Want to do mine Jim?


If your passing this way  :y
3 hours drive each way not very appealing  ;D ;D ;D

Hoping you might be down my way  ;)
Guess not and I'll have to do it myself  :( (when it stops raining!!)
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: dbug on 31 December 2009, 18:59:28
Well changed the HBV on the Estate today and I've got the scars to prove it - just over the hour (I take my hat off to Jimbob with his 15 minutes!!).  Bl**dy awkward thing to get at even with skuttle off - b*gger to get the hose clips moved back and also a b*gger to get the pipes off the old one (welded on?)

Fitting new one much quicker, top up water, allow to bleed and test run - all ok so far!!
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: RobG on 31 December 2009, 19:01:44
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Well changed the HBV on the Estate today and I've got the scars to prove it - just over the hour (I take my hat off to Jimbob with his 15 minutes!!).  Bl**dy awkward thing to get at even with skuttle off - b*gger to get the hose clips moved back and also a b*gger to get the pipes off the old one (welded on?)

Fitting new one much quicker, top up water, allow to bleed and test run - all ok so far!!
VX resort to jubilees when fitting HBV`s now
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: dbug on 31 December 2009, 19:03:17
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Well changed the HBV on the Estate today and I've got the scars to prove it - just over the hour (I take my hat off to Jimbob with his 15 minutes!!).  Bl**dy awkward thing to get at even with skuttle off - b*gger to get the hose clips moved back and also a b*gger to get the pipes off the old one (welded on?)

Fitting new one much quicker, top up water, allow to bleed and test run - all ok so far!!
VX resort to jubilees when fitting HBV`s now

Thought did cross my mind as I was cursing ;)
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: feeutfo on 31 December 2009, 19:52:35
depends on your tool of choice imo, and that depends on the type of clips your car has, pre face lifts have clips with a tab on each end, my face lifts has a tab on one end only. As if it was not awkward enough.
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: Jimbob on 02 January 2010, 14:38:42
gotta say those clips are growing on me with practise  :y
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: ScaniaV8 on 11 January 2010, 15:08:05
Changed my HBV last week to a brand new VX part, (total novice as a mechanic), but I just followed  the excellent instructions in the Maint Guide section. Took me about 2 .5 hours with the odd tea break. I removed the scuttle but even then access is still restricted to the HBV. Skinned a few knuckles, back aches and the occasional swear word but overall dead chuffed to get it fixed especially as it was freezing cold day.  :-)
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: amba on 11 January 2010, 15:23:00
Anybody got a website for a pair of those special hose clip pliers ?
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: TheBoy on 11 January 2010, 15:32:06
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Well changed the HBV on the Estate today and I've got the scars to prove it - just over the hour (I take my hat off to Jimbob with his 15 minutes!!).  Bl**dy awkward thing to get at even with skuttle off - b*gger to get the hose clips moved back and also a b*gger to get the pipes off the old one (welded on?)

Fitting new one much quicker, top up water, allow to bleed and test run - all ok so far!!
VX resort to jubilees when fitting HBV`s now
They shouldn't - those spring clips are used for a reason (besides cost and manufacture process)!

I always just use molegrips on them.

Takes me around 30 mins, most of that is removing and refitting scuttle.
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: dbug on 11 January 2010, 20:54:53
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Well changed the HBV on the Estate today and I've got the scars to prove it - just over the hour (I take my hat off to Jimbob with his 15 minutes!!).  Bl**dy awkward thing to get at even with skuttle off - b*gger to get the hose clips moved back and also a b*gger to get the pipes off the old one (welded on?)

Fitting new one much quicker, top up water, allow to bleed and test run - all ok so far!!
VX resort to jubilees when fitting HBV`s now
They shouldn't - those spring clips are used for a reason (besides cost and manufacture process)!

I always just use molegrips on them.

Takes me around 30 mins, most of that is removing and refitting scuttle.

Also use molegrips Jaime - just these ones are a bugger to get at.

I'm quite good (quick) at removing skuttles now - if I'd known You only take twice as long as Jimbob to change HBV on a V6, I'd have popped over to see you !!   ;) ;)
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: Andy H on 11 January 2010, 22:04:07
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Anybody got a website for a pair of those special hose clip pliers ?
Draper 89793. Or Laser do something very similar. I bought the Laser version from GSF when I was working on SWMBO's Golf for about £35.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-89793-REMOTE-HOSE-PLIER/dp/B000PJ8GXO

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41TymiBnqjL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
Title: Re: HBV
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 January 2010, 23:09:22
I've got a set of hose clip pliers but I still prefer mole grips ;) :y