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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Crazydad on 16 December 2007, 14:35:18
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Now after reading about the mugging of x25xe, it got me thinking how i would like to deal with this low life scum if i ever caught them, but i think Openly hanging them is not an acceptable punishment.
This sort of behavior has been seen all over the country, with people actually being killed for a few pence.
So what would you do, if you were given the opportunity to punish these Undesireables.
or to bring in a new law to help the Police with their efforts.
Also to set an example to stop this sort of thing happening on a daily scale.
But please take into consideration that killing mameing or Drowning is not acceptable (Unfortunatly)
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Make prison an non-enjoyable experience again. It is supposed to be a punishment, not a holiday.
Punish them Victorian style...Hard Labour.
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there is nothing you can do with these people.
if shooting not allowed, what about as lifelike crash-test dummies?
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Death by the most painful way would really be my preference...oh well. I think I might run from Prime Minister and change the law.
VOTE FOR ME!!!!!
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What about a live programme like the running man......you have got to give the audience what they want.
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what about national service, unpaid obviously.
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what about national service, unpaid obviously.
I honestly think that National Service would do a lot of these scrotes some good. We're all good at something, and these louts would have somewhere positive to channel their efforts. A Chief Gunner/Army equivalent with a big stick would serve as 'encouragement' too!!! ;D
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what about national service, unpaid obviously.
I have to agree, If they like fighting and think they are brave send them to Iraq and lets see jusy how hard they really are.
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i`m sure they would start crying about their human rights being infringed...buy some more floating prisons and call titanic,britanic and olympic and put em on em and sink em....
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National Service but are they safe to be armed?
Hard labour prison camps with education would do.
Make them learn something usefull, do not allow them out until they are fully literate.
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Pour treacle all over them and feather them and let them walk round town all day :y.......................On a serious note I cannot repeat what I would like to do to such folk, which is nothing short of a good hiding :y
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National Service but are they safe to be armed?
Hard labour prison camps with education would do.
Make them learn something usefull, do not allow them out until they are fully literate.
Give them a gun but no ammo after all the people they normally pick on are at a huge disadvantage ;)
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What about a live programme like the running man......you have got to give the audience what they want.
Good old Arnie.... :y
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:o :o
I know what I write here is not nice..
any method for those junkies will not be effective..
because the systems create them..
true for many countries including mine..
no baby is born guilty..
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National Service but are they safe to be armed?
Hard labour prison camps with education would do.
Make them learn something usefull, do not allow them out until they are fully literate.
Give them a gun but no ammo after all the people they normally pick on are at a huge disadvantage ;)
Guantanamo Bay is supposed to be good at the moment ;D ;D
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what about having "mugger" tattooed on their foreheads?
then people would be able to identify and have the chance to avoid them.
same goes for murderers, rapists, kiddie fiddlers etc.
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In this day and age, people have to have the right to defend there self and each other, i know i personally wouldn't think 2ce about putting a bat over someone head if they tried to intentionally harm myself or a loved one, i would NEVER hurt anyone who hadn't don't something to me, but its a different story when someone tries to hurt me, everyone has flight or fight, n i definitely don't have the flight lol. Up here in Scotland we do have the right to defend another person if they are not able to defend there self, but theres still that pish about "reasonable force". which personally i think is a load of rubbish, if someone jumps me i leave after they stop moving! its their fault, they came looking for a victim n found they wrong one, if i gave them a slap n run off they WILL find someone else, but if i put them in hospital i bet they'll think twice next time!
i also think females should be allowed to carry some form of CS gas. NO ONE respects the law anymore, therefore the law cannot keep your average law abiding citizen safe.
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Of course like most of us i'd dearly love to give these little pricks a good battering(TCP ready for my knuckles please!) More realistically i think a firm 10yr. stretch, hard labour, no telly etc, would be in order. I know prisons are spilling over but i'd pay a little more tax to finance building more. 10 would mean 10, none of this fannying about.
Or......Security guard in Iraq??? ::)
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In this day and age, people have to have the right to defend there self and each other, up here in Scotland we do have the right to defend another person if they are not able to defend there self, but theres still that pish about "reasonable force". which personally i think is a load of rubbish, if someone jumps me i leave after they stop moving! its their fault, they came looking for a victim n found they wrong one, if i gave them a slap n run off they WILL find someone else, but if i put them in hospital i bet they'll think twice next time!
i also think females should be allowed to carry some form of CS gas. NO ONE respects the law anymore, therefore the law cannot keep your average law abiding citizen safe.
Totally agree 100% with this member...If I'm in a hospital bed Ill guarantee the mugger will be occupying the next bed.
Bruce
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The MOD should have some sort of penial battallion, like the germans had in the second world war.
Put these offenders in there for 2 year stints, and belive me they would not answer the NCOs back and they would learn some sort of respect for other people, the NCOs should be given all the powers of persuasion they need to sort them out, you may say what about their human rights, well, what about the victems human rights for justice.
Put them in the penial battalions and let them rot in there if they dont change their ways, and when trouble breaks out around the world, send them in as cannon fodder.
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Salt mines??? Russia was on to a good thing there.
Kids do anything they want because they can't legally be punished hard enough. I read in the paper today about a 14 year old girl that took her parents to court for smacking her. Her dad has to do 50 hours unpaid work.
National Service would be good in my opinion. It teaches dicipline which is lacking in this world.
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Lets all get real. HMG currently has to pay out loads of dosh to those convicted crims who are currently serving legal sentances in stir because they have to p!ss in a tin and empty it out in the morning. Apparently its 'degrading' and contrary to human rights. We need to ensure current punishments are enforced rigourously before draconian measures such as suggested are brought into being.
And, believe me, I am no Liberal.... :-X
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interesting..I see many police in London without guns...first how they will protect themselves ? :-/
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interesting..I see many police in London without guns...first how they will protect themselves ? :-/
If they were all tooled-up, everyone contemplating any type of criminal activity would go in armed. Not progress IMHO. Armed backup is there, out of sight, in case it's needed and that's where it should be.
Kevin
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interesting..I see many police in London without guns...first how they will protect themselves ? :-/
If they were all tooled-up, everyone contemplating any type of criminal activity would go in armed. Not progress IMHO. Armed backup is there, out of sight, in case it's needed and that's where it should be.
Kevin
i dont quite understand how that makes any sense at all, right now the police have coshes and CS gas, does that mean at the moment everyone contemplating any type of criminal activity would go in armed with the equivalent?
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interesting..I see many police in London without guns...first how they will protect themselves ? :-/
If they were all tooled-up, everyone contemplating any type of criminal activity would go in armed. Not progress IMHO. Armed backup is there, out of sight, in case it's needed and that's where it should be.
Kevin
i dont quite understand how that makes any sense at all, right now the police have coshes and CS gas, does that mean at the moment everyone contemplating any type of criminal activity would go in armed with the equivalent?
Remember how Dixon in Dock Green ended? ....
He was shot..... :-X
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interesting..I see many police in London without guns...first how they will protect themselves ? :-/
If they were all tooled-up, everyone contemplating any type of criminal activity would go in armed. Not progress IMHO. Armed backup is there, out of sight, in case it's needed and that's where it should be.
Kevin
i dont quite understand how that makes any sense at all, right now the police have coshes and CS gas, does that mean at the moment everyone contemplating any type of criminal activity would go in armed with the equivalent?
Remember how Dixon in Dock Green ended? ....
He was shot..... :-X
Wasn't that just in the film 'The Blue Lamp'?
Evenin' All :'(
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I think prolonged community service to get some sort of payback for the community that these people damage.
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when theres a fight that guns can involve ,its very important who hit first with strongest material..
who knows when the backup forces will arrive..
theres no guarantee junkies or the other people will not carry a gun..
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Lets all get real. HMG currently has to pay out loads of dosh to those convicted crims who are currently serving legal sentances in stir because they have to p!ss in a tin and empty it out in the morning. Apparently its 'degrading' and contrary to human rights. We need to ensure current punishments are enforced rigourously before draconian measures such as suggested are brought into being.
And, believe me, I am no Liberal.... :-X
Does'nt matter where you pee Broocie, i never moaned about it, i deserved it. Iknow we can no longer throw them to the lions, but they should still do hard time & FULL term. That's not draconian.
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I think we have to change the Law first. If you mug someone, that is against their human rights, therefore you loose yours. Next a public flogging, something like 20 lashes with a cat of nine tails, and you make sure everyone in their neighbourhood know about it (the shame to their family may do some good). Next they get locked up in something approximating a dog kennel with straw in it, (even in winter) surrounded by a 20ft barbed wire fence, patrolled by someone with a water cannon. The idea is to humiliate them first, show them that that's what will happen if they go against society, then give them a very uncomfortable existance for a period of time. Then a more normal jail to get them back to being a member of society for a short period before release. Oh I nearly forgot, the wounds to their back chould be treated with antiseptic but nothing else, so they always have a good scar to remind them of their errors.
We have to show this sh*t that this is not acceptable in today's society. If you want to live in it, and enjoy the benefits, you have to conform to the rules.
Ken
PS, nearly forgot, the BMW 5 series should be crushed, and the gang owner made to push the start button.
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Aaaaahhh.. Weak point in this discussion is when, 27 years later, a good brief manages to overturn the case because of some legal oversight. Does not matter that the evidence is overwhelming, the fact that someone forgot to put sugar in someones tea when being interviewed would suffice.....
Then the HMG of the day must shell out megadosh for curtailment of liberty as well as injuries, etc, no matter that the old biddy that was killed 27 years ago is just as dead....
Cynical tonight? Moi?? I think just a tad....
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perhaps we then need to look at the function of lawyers, are the cases they bring in the public interest, or do they risk damaging the "status quo" ?. If so, perhaps they should be brought to trial themselves for attempting to damage society. If you can remove the "pay a layer enough and he/she will get you off" culture then things may improve. I think a lot of people in this country are so hell bent on screwing everyone else to make large amounts of dosh, that society is getting quite sad, valuing things like the latest game toy machine above human respect. Things have to change, hopefully for the better.
Ken
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Agreed....
We now live in Sue City.....
If theres blame, theres a claim.....
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Aaaaahhh.. Weak point in this discussion is when, 27 years later, a good brief manages to overturn the case because of some legal oversight. Does not matter that the evidence is overwhelming, the fact that someone forgot to put sugar in someones tea when being interviewed would suffice.....
Then the HMG of the day must shell out megadosh for curtailment of liberty as well as injuries, etc, no matter that the old biddy that was killed 27 years ago is just as dead....
Cynical tonight? Moi?? I think just a tad....
perhaps the way is for the relatives of "that old biddy" to sue the person responsible for the loss of her company, instruction and information over the 27 years and of course all years up until she may reasonably have expected to live. I would say at least £125K per year, so OK, pay the murderer a bit, but fine him £125k * 40, payable immediately, or seizure of all assets, plus he has to keep paying until the debt is discharged. While this country values money more than anything else, we have to punish in financial terms.
Ken
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TTFN
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Aaaaahhh.. Weak point in this discussion is when, 27 years later, a good brief manages to overturn the case because of some legal oversight. Does not matter that the evidence is overwhelming, the fact that someone forgot to put sugar in someones tea when being interviewed would suffice.....
Then the HMG of the day must shell out megadosh for curtailment of liberty as well as injuries, etc, no matter that the old biddy that was killed 27 years ago is just as dead....
Cynical tonight? Moi?? I think just a tad....
perhaps the way is for the relatives of "that old biddy" to sue the person responsible for the loss of her company, instruction and information over the 27 years and of course all years up until she may reasonably have expected to live. I would say at least £125K per year, so OK, pay the murderer a bit, but fine him £125k * 40, payable immediately, or seizure of all assets, plus he has to keep paying until the debt is discharged. While this country values money more than anything else, we have to punish in financial terms.
Ken
;D ;D ;D
Endless loop, mate...
Fella has been in the pokey for past 27 years and paid 75p a week for sewing maibags (or whatever the popular misconception currently is) so has no assets.... Whatever assets he had on being locked up are long ago transferred to others to ensure (possibly) that they are available on his eventual release....
A veritable catch22.
Same as Joe Scrote being fined a few hundred quid for assault/housebreaking/theft/whatever.....
Only gets a giro once a fortnight (plus what he robs and steals so does not declare) so gets to repay fine at 50 pence a week for the next few dozen years......
And thats not including any additional fines that may come his way in the interim.....
They get jailed if fines go unpaid but the vast majority of criminals view 22 days locked up a fair alternate for a few hundred quid of a fine. Oh! Remember they get at least one third of their time of in remission for good behaviour so its now a fortnight. No Giro payments if locked up, remember.....
And you cannot be released on a Saturday or Sunday so good chance of loosing another couple of days off, so poss max of 10 to 12 days served.....
Don't get me started, I've said too much tonight already...
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there is nothing you can do with these people.
if shooting not allowed, what about as lifelike crash-test dummies?
i'm quite happy to blow someone's kneecaps off if they try to mug me, after all, mugging's not allowed
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Lets all get real. HMG currently has to pay out loads of dosh to those convicted crims who are currently serving legal sentances in stir because they have to p!ss in a tin and empty it out in the morning. Apparently its 'degrading' and contrary to human rights. We need to ensure current punishments are enforced rigourously before draconian measures such as suggested are brought into being.
And, believe me, I am no Liberal.... :-X
Does'nt matter where you pee Broocie, i never moaned about it, i deserved it. Iknow we can no longer throw them to the lions, but they should still do hard time & FULL term. That's not draconian.
You took the words out of my mouth. What's draconian about a stiff and appropriate sentence/punishment? It is supposed to be a deterrant isn't it? If scumbags knew that prison wasn't a nice place to be, maybe...just maybe...they would think twice about doing some of the sh*tty things they do.
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Fella has been in the pokey for past 27 years and paid 75p a week for sewing maibags (or whatever the popular misconception currently is) so has no assets....
You'd be surprised what they get them to make nowadays :-X
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Lets all get real. HMG currently has to pay out loads of dosh to those convicted crims who are currently serving legal sentances in stir because they have to p!ss in a tin and empty it out in the morning. Apparently its 'degrading' and contrary to human rights. We need to ensure current punishments are enforced rigourously before draconian measures such as suggested are brought into being.
And, believe me, I am no Liberal.... :-X
There not, the present system is clearly not working, we namby pamby these low lifes, human rights crap, cannot do the time dont do the crime, they need to be sorted, something has to give, joe public will not take any more of these idiots in wigs dishing out silly sentences, they say dont take the law into your own hands, but sorry, i will, and then suffer the consiquences after, no man or boy will interfere with my castle or family with out punishment, i do not care who it is. You may say i am stupid, but this is the way i feel about the justice system in this country,there is NO deterrant, dont get me wrong i love this country to pieces, but there are a lot of issues that need to be sorted when it comes to fitting the time with the crime.
English mans home is his castle, and let no man interfere.
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"Chain Gangs" works in the States,,, If we did that here though the Polish would be jobless......... :-X
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"Chain Gangs" works in the States,,, If we did that here though the Polish would be jobless......... :-X
Well someone has to make the chains. ;D
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BIRCH them !!!
Corpral punishment rules :y :y :y
National servis in afganistan
all gettin my drift ?
my mate nealy died ten years ago simular scenario :( hit with hammer to the back of his head cowards >:( >:(