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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: steve78 on 09 January 2010, 21:23:56
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HI TO ALL , IM A NEW GUY HERE AND HAVING A BAD DAY !
OK FIRST OF I WENT TO DEPTFORD CAR AUCTION TODAY AND BROUGHT MY SELF A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE V OMEGA 2L AUTO, ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES IN A DARK GREY COLOUR,,, PAID 419 POUNDS AND WAS WELL HAPPY :) AFTER BIDDING ON ALL OTHER CARS I COLLECTED KEYS AND STARTED HER UP AND SOUNDED NICE AND QUIET , THEN PUT HER INTO DRIVE AND TO MY SURPRISE NOTHING HAPPENED GRRRRR NOTHING IN DRIVE 1 2 3 OR REVERSE, GUTTED THB. ESP AS IT WAS SOLD AS SEEN, ANY WAY MY MATE PUSHED ME AND IT CAUGHT A GEAR IN DRIVE BUT LASTED 10 TO 20 YARDS, IVE SPOKEN TO A FEW GUYS IN THE CAR TRADE SAYING IT MAY BE LOW OIL SO I HAD A PEEK IN A HAYNES MANUAL (cheers halfords) and kinda see where the top up plug is. so got some transmission oil and of i went back to the car and undone the 13mm bolt on drivers side and it pissed out oil so i pressumed it had plenty in there pressuming i got the right bolt. some one else said it could be clutch belt !!! never heard of that so not sure as im no mechanic. so before i spend any more time outside in the freezing snow i thought id give this a try so any replys will be very great full. oh i also had few quotes on secound hand box and there around 150 to 175, if it is the box are there any threads to explain how to change a box over and pics would be great to,,, many thanks steve
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Do the lights next to the gearstick light up as expected?
Worse case, change the gearbox. They are common enough - breakers on this site may be able to supply - and not that hard to change (extra pair of hands helps!)
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yes all lights work, is 150 175 a good price ! any threads on this problem or box change
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I wouldn't pay more than £40-50 for a 2nd hand AR25...
Note aware of any guides (feel free to do one when you do yours ;))
its kinda:
drop prop
unplug all gearbox electrics
undo all 6 (3 on TD) bolts holding TC to driveplate
undo bellhousing
pull box back, then lower
Refit is reverse method, but ensure that TC is fully engaged in gearbox first.
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Was the engine running the when you checked the level?
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HI TO ALL , IM A NEW GUY HERE AND HAVING A BAD DAY !
OK FIRST OF I WENT TO DEPTFORD CAR AUCTION TODAY AND BROUGHT MY SELF A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE V OMEGA 2L AUTO, ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES IN A DARK GREY COLOUR,,, PAID 419 POUNDS AND WAS WELL HAPPY :) AFTER BIDDING ON ALL OTHER CARS I COLLECTED KEYS AND STARTED HER UP AND SOUNDED NICE AND QUIET , THEN PUT HER INTO DRIVE AND TO MY SURPRISE NOTHING HAPPENED GRRRRR NOTHING IN DRIVE 1 2 3 OR REVERSE, GUTTED THB. ESP AS IT WAS SOLD AS SEEN, ANY WAY MY MATE PUSHED ME AND IT CAUGHT A GEAR IN DRIVE BUT LASTED 10 TO 20 YARDS, IVE SPOKEN TO A FEW GUYS IN THE CAR TRADE SAYING IT MAY BE LOW OIL SO I HAD A PEEK IN A HAYNES MANUAL (cheers halfords) and kinda see where the top up plug is. so got some transmission oil and of i went back to the car and undone the 13mm bolt on drivers side and it pissed out oil so i pressumed it had plenty in there pressuming i got the right bolt. some one else said it could be clutch belt !!! never heard of that so not sure as im no mechanic. so before i spend any more time outside in the freezing snow i thought id give this a try so any replys will be very great full. oh i also had few quotes on secound hand box and there around 150 to 175, if it is the box are there any threads to explain how to change a box over and pics would be great to,,, many thanks steve
It will if the engine is not running... there is a right way and a wrong way to check the level .. you did it the wrong way .. and now it IS low on ATF !!!!
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Top it up with oil PROPERLY !!!
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152783586
:)
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Are the fuses all ok
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ok i undone the plug but it seems like i undone the drain plug not the filler plug as wen i undone the 13mm bolt it poured out alot. prob about 1 half liters, sorry to sound dum but as i stated im not a mechanic but not wanna get to involved if the box dont need changing. so let me get this right the filler bolt is on drivers side about 2 - 3 inchs high from bottom of g box sump ???????? is there not a dip stick you can check or is it fill up till it leaks out ! but would this not make gear box work? also is it poss to do a test like you do on ecu as on dash it says automatic gearbox thanks again guys
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oh and yes i checked fuses next to battery and under steering wheel and yes engine was running for about 15 mins before i undone the bolt
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ok i undone the plug but it seems like i undone the drain plug not the filler plug as wen i undone the 13mm bolt it poured out alot. prob about 1 half liters, sorry to sound dum but as i stated im not a mechanic but not wanna get to involved if the box dont need changing. so let me get this right the filler bolt is on drivers side about 2 - 3 inchs high from bottom of g box sump ???????? is there not a dip stick you can check or is it fill up till it leaks out ! but would this not make gear box work? also is it poss to do a test like you do on ecu as on dash it says automatic gearbox thanks again guys
One and the same thing, and no dipstick. Ideally need gearbox codes read with a decent reader. As asked previous, do the gear selector lights illuminate as you select each gear or do they all come on at once or don`t they come on at all?
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There is no drain plug .. you undid the filler plug with the engine not running .. therefore ATF came out ...
The Autobox is filled/checked WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING ... :)
A quick and easy guide to how to do it is here ...
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152783586
but the essence is .. with the car level in both fore/aft and side-to-side, and the engine running, after cycling through all the gears, the box should be filled until fluid just begins to run from the filler.
If the engine is not running the pumps are not turning and all the fluid sits in the sump.
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ok so if there is lack of oil it wont move yes?????????????
i retry in morning but thinking of giving rac a call out to see what there verdict is, thing is the guy deff drove it to the auction unless he blaggin it, and thinking about it im sure all lights was on not one per gear selection ,,, is this a common problem with the auto box? typical as i never had a auto in 13 years and this happens lol
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ok so if there is lack of oil it wont move yes?????????????
i retry in morning but thinking of giving rac a call out to see what there verdict is, thing is the guy deff drove it to the auction unless he blaggin it, and thinking about it im sure all lights was on not one per gear selection
Correct .. low ATF = no movement as it is the fluid that provides the drive .. :)
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ok so if there is lack of oil it wont move yes?????????????
i retry in morning but thinking of giving rac a call out to see what there verdict is, thing is the guy deff drove it to the auction unless he blaggin it, and thinking about it im sure all lights was on not one per gear selection ,,, is this a common problem with the auto box? typical as i never had a auto in 13 years and this happens lol
Indicative of faulty/dirty selector switch http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1231586488/10 but your problems sound a bit more drastic (hopefully not, maybe just lack of ATF). Usually with a faulty switch gearbox will enter "limp mode" but you can still manually select two forward gears.
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not looking good then !
ok so if i need a new box has any1 any ideas as to where i should source 1 from as i not want to get mugged any more , but i will call rac tomoz and see what they say as im sure there look at fluid,,,, take it paper clip test is not any good?
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Paperclip will only give you engine codes. Is the EML staying on when the car is started :question
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no eml light is on . only warning i get is on dash saying automatic gearbox !!!!!!!!
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I doubt the RAC will jack the car up to level and check the ATF level for you :( probably just tow you to a Vx dealer, especially as the warning is on the dash.
Checking the ATF is NOT a difficult job technically .. it's a tad awkward, but if you've been able to get to the filler already you should have no problem getting some oil back in !!!
It might not be low oil .... but for the sake of a few quids worth of ATF it has to be the first thing to check !!!!
just remember .. if it was low when he drove it in .. it's even lower now you've let a whole load out !!!
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I dont know if you are aware but the ATF has to be checked when the gearbox is warm and with the engine running as Entwood said ..... doesnt seem clear to me if the OP done it with engine running when reading through this post :-/
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well as i brought the car with it not moving i only left it running for 15 min stand still, not being able to move it!!!
call rac in min to get there advice and see wat they say when it there in flesh.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330386733419&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
will this box fit into my omega on a 2000 year 2lt eco tech?
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Can't believe you did not try it to see if it moved before you bid on it!
Just a thought but I suppose you have checked to see if there is any output from the gearbox while it is in drive? After all, it may be that the prop or diff has blown it, not the gearbox, auto or otherwise!
If it is the gearbox I would not pay more than 50 smackers for a second user one either. They are very common among loads of medium, up to 2.0 lt sized motors, certainly not a rarity. Sholud not cost more than 150 for the job in total, even paying someone to do it.
GudLuk
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I'd be inclined to step back a bit before buying a new box.
If we work on the basis that it was driven to the aution house then "something" must have happened there.
chances are that it is an electrical/selector problem as much as a problem with the box.
My suggestion would be
1) get the fault codes ready by someone who knows what they are doing
2) focus on what the fault code is telling you
There is a chance that you could replace the box with a pretty knackered one and all the time it is a selector problem - and your new box will not work either.
where abouts are you, perhaps there is someone near you to help
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oh and a really daft question - does the car move at all? If it has been standing in the current weather then the handbrake shows and even brake pads can corrode onto the discs/drums. It can take a bit of freeing. Its obvious with a manual but no so with auto
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ok the way the weather has been the auction grounds was a sheet of ice so my luck they walked round to do the selling with just the cars running not driving, thats why i bidded as i obviously thought it was drivable.. and john h i live in south london near dartford bridge,, i looked loads of places and all seem around 130 to 190 :( you say about reading the codes! how is that done?
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ok so this reader will tell me what is wrong with the autobox ?
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yes as long as the auto ecu is working.
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would the rac not try this?
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yes they would but as found my self with RAC there's somtimes dont pick up a signal or get wrong fault code, and they are worth there weight in gold, and it is a good price.
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i give rac a try then i have to buy one, thanks all i will keep you updated and fingers crossed :-/
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I dont know if you are aware but the ATF has to be checked when the gearbox is warm and with the engine running as Entwood said ..... doesnt seem clear to me if the OP done it with engine running when reading through this post :-/
Did you leave the engine running? or did you turn it off before you took the level plug out?
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i left the engine running for 15 mins then took plug out whilst running and oil pissed out but was a orange brown colour and quiet thick
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that sounds like the gearbox oil to me
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what i dont get tho is wen i undone the plug a good liter and half come out,,, how could you get that much in there via top up plug!!??!!
so you recon i should keep engine running undo plug with it running and top up till it flows out?
how do i drain old oil tho ?
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i left the engine running for 15 mins then took plug out whilst running and oil pissed out but was a orange brown colour and quiet thick
That doesn't sound good :(
Did it have any engine coolant mixed with it?
Is the engine coolant header tank clean? (is there ATF in the coolant?)
Two possible causes I have in mind :
1- radiator failure causing engine coolant to fill gearbox
2- gearbox ATF pump not working
[edit]early cars had a gearbox oil cooler in the end of the radiator, later cars have a separate radiator for the gearbox. I'm not sure whether V reg is beofore the change :-/[/edit]
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i shall look in few mins !
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what i dont get tho is wen i undone the plug a good liter and half come out,,, how could you get that much in there via top up plug!!??!!
so you recon i should keep engine running undo plug with it running and top up till it flows out?
how do i drain old oil tho ?
YES!!
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sorry guys im getting to be a pain in the arse aint i lol :o
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ok, right i have gone down stairs and tested the car,,, still no gears!! the lights next to the gear leaver are independant, and lighting up on each selected gear... not all lights are on at once,, also i have checked the water and there is not sign of oil in the water,,,,,,,, just a quick one,, i used to own, a vauxhall calibra 4x4 turbo and was always told to drive with the same tyre pressure and tyre depth as it can mess up, the gear and transformer box. when i brought the omga it has 2 semi flat tyres on the drivers side, would this cause a problem???
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put the car on a level surface, start it, remove the nut to the autobox, and put as much ATF in as you can, it should be level with the plug. (use Dextron III)
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put the car on a level surface, start it, remove the nut to the autobox, and put as much ATF in as you can, it should be level with the plug. (use Dextron III)
I think we have established that the engine was running when the level was checked but that dirty fluid ran out.
Trying to establish whether this car has a gearbox oil cooler in the radiator or a separate gearbox oil cooler.
Next line of enquiry was to ask if a failed thrust washer could eat the oil pump (or cause it to disengage from the drive on the torque converter).
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now it getting complicated !!!! talk about head f*ck lol if i take this to a garage it going to be very expensive im sure, i called rac and there coming in the next hour so update you all soon
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Any luck with the rac then steve78
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ok well rac come out and was more intrested in a semi flat tyre than the reason i called them out !!!! not impressed . he turned up and basically said that dont seem right !
he seems to think it is the gear box. he never put a diagnostic test on and when i asked he said there no need as there no noise or movement from the box....... so i got it moved to me friends where he has a 3 car garage and its there till tomorrow then im going to put it on ramp and then check oil level and if no joy i going to remove it and get a replacement,,, can any one tell me if there are anything i should be carefull with and what bits should also be replaced as well as the box??????? also is there a manual i can download and print of to help me along rather than buying a haynes manual
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just follow yer nose if yer lucky the bottom of the bell housing will have the cover so yer can get to bolts for tc mine didnt there was a hole halfway up n/s,undo all them remove oil cooler pipes remove rubber donut on prop and tie out of the way unplug as many electricals as yer can remove bell house bolts leave 2 in about 9 and 3 oclock and when yer ready to drop remove them 2 and i unplugged mi selector while the box was dropped slightly plus the breather pipe.refitting is the reverse just make sure the tc is properly seated in the replacement box,there not that heavy,i bought a haynes for 99p but tbh once yer get under the car its all common sense ive changed loads of clutches on different cars and have never touched an autobox and after doing mine i thought god how easy was that
good luck :y
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thanks hercules .. the only bit that gets me is the tc part... i have to get one from halfords as manual will help with getting it out,,, when i get another box how do i know how much fluid to put in and is it the top up bolt at bottom near sump? as i read it holds 7.4 liters but cant see it using that much as it only 2" from bottom of sump to top up bolt,,, think ill read haynes a few times lol
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oh also any one know if there a resonable place for recon or secound hand box???????????
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serious failure there then. :'(
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as i read it holds 7.4 liters but cant see it using that much as it only 2" from bottom of sump to top up bolt,
When the engine is running the pump in the gearbox pumps the ATF up into the torque converter, into the external oil cooler and into the gears and actuators. That is why the engine has to be running when you check the level.
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well yes but im being positive,, it is perfect inside and not a scratch or any rust on out side so i think even tho i paid 325 for it and once i get another box in her im sure it still be worth wat i paid out just hope it all goes smoothly !!!!!
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took few days of work and just going to start removing gearbox,,, any one know where a step by step guide is to removing it? thanks
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best offer on a secound hand box from my local breakers is 270 with 6 months g t and its out same model as mine with 65,000 miles !!! good or bad??????????
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thats alot tbh.Didnt someone send u a link for one for £90 in your area
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best offer on a secound hand box from my local breakers is 270 with 6 months g t and its out same model as mine with 65,000 miles !!! good or bad??????????
I hope thats the fitted price.
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new quote 125 with a month warrenty!
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no pete thats supplied only.... finding it hard to source a cheaper one but im running out of options
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new quote 125 with a month warrenty!
were are you at? as know a few place's that do recon's for £90.
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£125 is alot better then your last price.If thats the only one you can get cheap then get it.Also see if they do fitting as my local scrappy fit gearboxes for £65 extra
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I would say £60 to £70 for a good secondhand AR25 gearbox and torque converter then I would drain it, fit a new filter and sump gaskets at another £40 or so and once fitted refill with Dexron 111.
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im at dartford near the bridge. the only bit im confussed at is the tc and removing it with gear box,,, how do i get to it if it in the box and need it undone before removing !!!!
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not sure what oil i brought from halfords the other day but was in big red plastic bottle says ok for all makes and models this it what i got and just looked on web site and it says
Comma Automatic Transmission Fluid 5L is suitable for a variety of cars.
[ch9632]Provides a quiet and smooth gear shift
[ch9632]Protects againstfoaming, corrosion, oxidation and wear
[ch9632]Also suitable for power steering systems
Additional Information
Suitable for:
[ch9632]GM TYPE A SUFFIX
[ch9632]DEXRON II/IID/IIE/III
[ch9632]Ford M2C-138-CJ/M2C-166H
[ch9632]ZF TE ML 09/14
[ch9632]Allison C4
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im at dartford near the bridge. the only bit im confussed at is the tc and removing it with gear box,,, how do i get to it if it in the box and need it undone before removing !!!!
The TC bolts to the driveplate and there is an opening in the housing that gives you access to remove these bolts from the front of the driveplate.
You need to remove each bolt in turn, turning the engine over to access the next bolt each time.
Don't just pull the gearbox off with the TC still bolted to the driveplate as it will damage the bushing and/or seal that holds the TC nose in the gearbox.
Kevin
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not sure what oil i brought from halfords the other day but was in big red plastic bottle says ok for all makes and models this it what i got and just looked on web site and it says
Comma Automatic Transmission Fluid 5L is suitable for a variety of cars.
[ch9632]Provides a quiet and smooth gear shift
[ch9632]Protects againstfoaming, corrosion, oxidation and wear
[ch9632]Also suitable for power steering systems
Additional Information
Suitable for:
[ch9632]GM TYPE A SUFFIX
[ch9632]DEXRON II/IID/IIE/III
[ch9632]Ford M2C-138-CJ/M2C-166H
[ch9632]ZF TE ML 09/14
[ch9632]Allison C4
That's fine. It meets Dexron III.
Kevin
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im at dartford near the bridge. the only bit im confussed at is the tc and removing it with gear box,,, how do i get to it if it in the box and need it undone before removing !!!!
The TC bolts to the driveplate and there is an opening in the housing that gives you access to remove these bolts from the front of the driveplate.
You need to remove each bolt in turn, turning the engine over to access the next bolt each time.
Don't just pull the gearbox off with the TC still bolted to the driveplate as it will damage the bushing and/or seal that holds the TC nose in the gearbox.
Kevin
And don't turn the engine backwards
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im at dartford near the bridge. the only bit im confussed at is the tc and removing it with gear box,,, how do i get to it if it in the box and need it undone before removing !!!!
The TC bolts to the driveplate and there is an opening in the housing that gives you access to remove these bolts from the front of the driveplate.
You need to remove each bolt in turn, turning the engine over to access the next bolt each time.
Don't just pull the gearbox off with the TC still bolted to the driveplate as it will damage the bushing and/or seal that holds the TC nose in the gearbox.
Kevin
And don't turn the engine backwards
Ahh, yes. :y
.. and remove the spark plugs unless you fancy a workout.
Kevin
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ok and i can do this by screwdriver on the fly wheel yes? how many bolts ? size ? ratchet spanner ? sorry just wanna be prepaired
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cheer kev ;D
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Pity you weren`t closer. If you wanted to take mine out it would have been £30
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thats just my luck rob i got luck of the devil... dont suppose you know wat sive spanner or ratchet for the tc ? how many bolts
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thats just my luck rob i got luck of the devil... dont suppose you know wat sive spanner or ratchet for the tc ? how many bolts
Sorry Steve, no idea, don`t do the "grunt & groan" stuff on cars any more unless it`s on a 4-poster :-/
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no worries i think i go to manual on next omega !!!!! its me first auto since i been driving and being a hgv driver i thought it be nice to have a easy ride lol :-[
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im at dartford near the bridge. the only bit im confussed at is the tc and removing it with gear box,,, how do i get to it if it in the box and need it undone before removing !!!!
dont know any there but there is a auto's repaire there saw advert in paper there last year in the local paper
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Serek on this forum has an AR35 autobox for sale cheap, don't know whether it is compatible. I have an AR25 in my 2.5td and will be changing shortly to an AR35. I am told you just require the bell housing and TC from the 25 to fit the 35.
Good Luck :y
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ok well i had a good day i today but i had to stop after i got to the part i was not looking forward to t converter !! i could not find any possible way of getting it undone at all, i called a breakers up and they said do it through hole where starter motor goes !!!! no chance at all i think my self as you cant get a socket on the bolts or spanner as you can only see half the bolt!!!!! so i had no choice but to but haynes manual grrrrrrr on there it says take gromit of but mine was missing so i could see tc already and looked very rusty from what i can see but it says take another gromit of just past gearbox and do it with socket but i aint got a entrance as you can see in pics i took, so now im bit f*cked as not sure wat else to do !!!!! any one got a clue id be very happy :) heard you can take it of with out undoing tc //////////// is this true and will it slide of nice as if i did undo tc thanks guys steve
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can anyone shed some light on my problem please!!!!! or have i bored you all lol
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dont know if its the same but on my 2.2 if you stand at the front of car (underneath obviously)and look at the n/s about half way up the bell housing theres a hole in the block and there is the(flywheel)15mm socket on a flexi and extension 5 or 6 bolts and thats it,the haynes only goes to 1999 iirc and it does show a gromit at bottom to get to flywheel and a plate or gromit to allow you access to bolts but not on mine 2001 you really want to take box off with tc its a lot easier to fit tc to box rather than box to tc,if im wrong someone will correct :y
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ok so as for effort on taking the box out with the tc box attached its no different ? also is there anything i should be away wen taking it out like wires on top or a large amount of oil coming out as tc still in place, so far i have everything of apart from tc bolts, thanks steve
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also the bellhousing is the mount on the end of the box near propshaft yes?
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ok so as for effort on taking the box out with the tc box attached its no different ? also is there anything i should be away wen taking it out like wires on top or a large amount of oil coming out as tc still in place, so far i have everything of apart from tc bolts, thanks steve
TC needs to come off with box, and its utterly critical that tc is inserted fully in box before refitting box
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Yeh, only rtun the crank clockwise.....and when you re-fit the tc needs to go FULLY onto the box before fitting
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ok got that . so why do some say undo tc bolts before taking out the box?
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im sure i did turn it clock wise but if you dont what would the result be?
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ok got that . so why do some say undo tc bolts before taking out the box?
Practice for putting them back in ;D
Seriously, I find it easier, as you have drag of box to help undo them
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also the bellhousing is the mount on the end of the box near propshaft yes?
Bellhousing is at the front :y
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lol so basically its harder to pull the box of with out undoing the tc bolts
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rob i think i may have undone the wrong bolts!!!! does the tc sit inside bellhousing then as i undone the bolts which was 13mm and 19mm going from starter motor all the way round!
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when you buy a new box it should come with the tc so basically drop yer box and you will see the tc bolted to your engine and hopefully all will come come to light of what peeps have been saying,carefull as you drop it for any plugs still connected and the breather on top(this is if you get the tc with your replacement box)the haynes tells you about and shows pics of the tc in the box and if irrc the mating surface of the tc to driveplate should be 15mm into the box from the bell housing face(god thats sad) ;D
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You can remove the box without the torque convertor but the T/C MUST be removed and fully engaged within the bellhousing for re-fitting.
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but i am going to get covered in oil yes lol :-[
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You can remove the box without the torque convertor but the T/C MUST be removed and fully engaged within the bellhousing for re-fitting.
aye i was gonna add to my post and say the 15mm part of it as you will see in the haynes is how to correctly fit the tc prior to refitting box :y
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but i am going to get covered in oil yes lol :-[
Why?
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but i am going to get covered in oil yes lol :-[
Why?
Because if the box is removed leaving the TC attached to the engine then ATF will escape from the TC I assume :-/
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i thought that if you took it out with out tc the tc will leak oil as it has oil inside it,,, i been reading bits here and there and all a bit of a muddle
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ok ill update you all tomorrow and annoy you all a little bit more :) cheers for all ya help i hope all goes great with out any hickups
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how did yer get on today
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hello every one,,
i had a better day today and got t,c of after gearbox and looking now i think i was worrying about nothing, t,c sounds complicated but was a dodle you all prob laughing now lol
well heres a few pics (http://[IMG]http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy184/loopysteve28/carect036.jpg)[/img] its not jacked up great but it deff high enough to exchange the gearbox but do suffer from aching arms!!!!!!
well new start today and i had to get last 2 mounting bolts of i needed to get the exhuast system of , well down pipe but took whole lenth of as more room, snapped 2 bolts that went on to manifold but even tho i had this prob i stayed positive
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so any way i got the box out and to my surprise there was about a liter of oil that leaked out and was controllerble but had to be quick !!
so as the box was out i shot of to exchange for new donner box and a 8 mm steel drill bit to drill out broken bolts to manifold!!! after getting through the manifold and made 2 fresh new hole i see a crack on this grrrrrrrrrr
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does any one think this will be ok to use tomorrow as it is a hairline crack not open to make a problem but not wanna take it off again once its back on, so tomoz im back under her and hope it goes all ok ,,, oh should gear selecter on the box be in park or dont it matter ? thanks steve
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sorry every one i just re read my thread i just posted and it bit shabby but my excuse is im sitting at dinning table still covered in grease and atf fluid and my partner keeping on to get in bath as i stink. women just dont respect what we go through to fix things !!!!! brb bath time as i been TOLD :D
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hmmm cracked manifold if its knacked it wants a new one,i didnt take the exhaust off to do mine and have you got another box with a tc and have you found the access hole for the bolts on the tc cos the tc has to be on the new box before you refit,the haynes tells you how to set the lever rod up and check the setting on the selector switch while its off the car you would think that the box will have been in park when they removed it from the donor so it should all just go back reversal of removal :)
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yeah i think i get another from scrap yard, i was thinking as i got the 2L eco tech is it same manifold as front wheel drive?
i had a ok day and yes i found the access hole for the t,c and was just where you said it was i just never see it till i took box of but lesson learned i guess,.,.,. yes the box thats going in has a t,c on it so will use that one.the doner box has oil in it but i will change it but should i leave old oil in there as i need to warm it up before i change it dont i or could i drain it clean filter then as it not in the car yet just fill it up with the correct amount then fit the box in. 4,7 liters i think halfords told me. god if this dont work when it all back together im going to be sooooooooooo pissed lol
is there any thing i should know as i put new one in ?
also i cleaned the breather pipe (metal) that goes from the block to the rocker cover and did notice a tiny tiny amount of yellowish oil among dryed up oil grease crap. cleaned it but not sure bout yellow stuff.
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yeah i think i get another from scrap yard, i was thinking as i got the 2L eco tech is it same manifold as front wheel drive?
i had a ok day and yes i found the access hole for the t,c and was just where you said it was i just never see it till i took box of but lesson learned i guess,.,.,. yes the box thats going in has a t,c on it so will use that one.the doner box has oil in it but i will change it but should i leave old oil in there as i need to warm it up before i change it dont i or could i drain it clean filter then as it not in the car yet just fill it up with the correct amount then fit the box in. 4,7 liters i think halfords told me. god if this dont work when it all back together im going to be sooooooooooo pissed lol
is there any thing i should know as i put new one in ?
also i cleaned the breather pipe (metal) that goes from the block to the rocker cover and did notice a tiny tiny amount of yellowish oil among dryed up oil grease crap. cleaned it but not sure bout yellow stuff.
could be wrong but i wouldnt of thought the manifolds will be the same,if your gonna clean the filters drain yer box off and clean the filter but dont put any oil in it as its just more weight to make your arms shake as yer holding it up and just make sure the tc is in the box fully before you lift it up to block for all your settings follow the haynes good luck :y
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ok im nearly there !!!!!!!!!!! 4days and still not done you say !
well i have had me probs but its all together with no bolts left over :) but ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the last thing to do up was the linkage from the gear stick to the rod that connects to the box, ive lost the bolt and cant get it any where as it not a proper bolt if ya get me and vauxhall said thay have to get it from germany grrrrrrrrrrrrr breakers had 6 omegas from v6 to 3,0 and a couple 2ltr but there all stacked on to other cars so cant get to them and they said it to much grief for 1 bolt, any ideas any one?????????????
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Front wheel drive one will fit from either a 1.8 or 2.0 16v ecotec as they are the same
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but will have to be auto yes?
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but will have to be auto yes?
No, exhaust manifolds are the same on auto an manual
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yippy my omega is running and with the gamble i took with second hand gearbox and is running cool with nice smooth gear changes,, how ever i took it to get the mot done and failed on welding needed, i never had to get a car welded so im curious of what this is going to cost :( here is what mot failure sheet says ,,.,.,.,.,.,NEARSIDE FRONT (CLOSE TO STEERING ARM MOUNTING POINT) STEERING COMPONENT MOUNTING PRESCRIBED IS EXESSIVELEY CORRODED [2.2.C.1G ] ANY IDEAS ON COST ?????? IS IT BIG JOB ECT THANKS STEVE
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it really depends on how bad it is . Could range between £40 to £100 if its that bad then you really will have problems :-(
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just was not ment to be :'(
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if you can get a photo of it then we can tell if its bad or not . It should be marked on the car. Ie a yellow circle but not always :y
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yeah it was marked with yellow and not big but kinda medium,,, its in garage so she be on road soon, mechanic says 160 to 170 :'( but i really cant be arsed to mess about no more it starting to get depressing lol
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wow mate 160 that is steep . Make sure you underseal it once its done save it rotten . It will all be worth it when its on the road :y
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Anyway, well done Steve, you gave it a good go and fixed what you set out to do.
Top Man. :y :y :y
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yeah i must say i did get a sense of acheivment when i first put her into drive when i changed the gearbox and it moved lol so yes i am chuffed with my amature mechanical skills, well i hope to pick it up any min now and the welder did say he was going to seal it with underseal,, tax her tomoz and enjoy the life of driving lazy in a automatic hehe :P
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well done mate glad its all coming together for you. And welcome to the land of omega fun :y
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cheers sparky :y