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Title: Broken Steering Column
Post by: P_Russell on 21 January 2010, 20:27:56
Driving the car tonight I was getting a cracking noise on turning the sterring wheel - like cheap plastic snapping.  Took a sharp turn and the wheel jammed and I had to force it (with more cracking noises) to get it to turn.  It now intermittently cracks and gets stuck when turning, it frees itself under force.

Took the cowling off & this is what I see:

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n291/russep00/P1020064.jpg)

There is a rotaing disc behind the wheel which rotates with the wheel.  The black plastic housing stays put.  Something behind the disc is getting stuck as I can see the disc flex under stress before it 'cracks'.  It looks like the steering wheel has to come off to fix it (how??).

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: Welung666 on 21 January 2010, 20:50:22
Thats the spinning section of the steering wheel loom. Be very careful if messing with it as the airbag is connected through it. You have to take the wheel off to get to it so disconnect your battery for at least half an hour before you start ;)
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: P_Russell on 21 January 2010, 20:52:30
And how does the wheel come off?  Do I need to disable the airbag somehow first??
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: Welung666 on 21 January 2010, 20:59:12
Not disable it but remove it. Battery off for at least 30 mins. Feel behind the steering wheel and there is a hole either side, a torx screw in each hole releases the airbag partway and reveals the nut holding the steering wheel on.

EDIT: Don't try using a chisel to remove the nut as it's a collapsable steering column, get the correct size socket!
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: P_Russell on 21 January 2010, 21:02:31
Sorry - new to this (my spitfire has a massive nut under a plastic cover to remove the steering wheel - can't get much simpler than that!) - so I undo the 2 torx screws, then what bit moves?  I'm a bit confused as the airbag seems integral to the wheel
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: Welung666 on 21 January 2010, 21:25:53
The big nut on your spitfire is the same as the mig just you need to undo the 2 torx screws to remove the airbag from the wheel first. ;)
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: P_Russell on 21 January 2010, 21:29:22
Thanks for your help.  Any idea what I might find causing the problem??
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: P_Russell on 21 January 2010, 21:31:11
And what size socket?
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: Welung666 on 21 January 2010, 21:35:57
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And what size socket?

Off the top of my head I can't remember ;D It's smaller than your Spitty though, a good pipe wrench should get it off.

Once the wheel is off you should be able to take off the spinner (4 clips behind it) you should be able to open it slightly but enough to see inside.
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: RobG on 21 January 2010, 21:44:19
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And what size socket?

Off the top of my head I can't remember ;D It's smaller than your Spitty though, a good pipe wrench should get it off.

Once the wheel is off you should be able to take off the spinner (4 clips behind it) you should be able to open it slightly but enough to see inside.
And if it`s stuffed I`ve got one here :D
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: P_Russell on 21 January 2010, 22:18:08
Great thanks - will give it a go tomorrow night & post back the findings :y
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: P_Russell on 22 January 2010, 19:52:51
OK, got the airbag off, got the nut off - but the wheel won't shift.  I'm expecting it to be tight but can't get any movement.  Any tips for getting it loose?
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: ffcgary1 on 22 January 2010, 20:07:38
Dont thump the wheel mate due to the bush, you need a steering wheel puller to get it of, they can be bugger tight. ::)
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 January 2010, 20:09:53
easy....re-fit the nut loosely.

Brace both knees behind the wheel between the rim and the dash.

Then use a soft drift and a hammer to hit the centre of the column....1 or 2 hard solid blows
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: P_Russell on 22 January 2010, 20:55:51
Right - all done.  The wheel came off with a few side-to-side wiggles along with a few taps around the centre spindle.  Then off with the spinner and this is what I found:

Note bits of plastic around centre spindle bearing
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n291/russep00/P1020069.jpg)

coming from here - the indicator reset mechanism!

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n291/russep00/P1020070.jpg)

So cleaned it out, smoothed off what was left of the mechanism (still sufficient there for the reset to work, at least for the time being) and put everything back.

It was a bit bloody dangerous though!  I had the kids in the car and luckily was going slow in a car park so could stop quickly but the whole steering locked up!

Thanks everyone for their help! :y
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: Welung666 on 22 January 2010, 22:24:14
Glad you got it sorted :y
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: Entwood on 22 January 2010, 22:28:25
Good job .....  :y :y :y

I am a tad concerned though how long the "rest" will last ...  something has caused the plastic to break and bits to fall off and jam .. :(

You haven't really found and removed the cause, so there must be a chance that the same will happen again to the rest of the plastic .....

and IMHO steering comes under the heading "safety critical"  !!!

It would not be good if it were to jam again at any sort of speed ...  :(

Just my thoughts, especially as you mention kids ...   :(
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: Andy B on 22 January 2010, 22:35:51
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OK, got the airbag off, got the nut off - but the wheel won't shift.  I'm expecting it to be tight but can't get any movement.  Any tips for getting it loose?

I know it's too late now but this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Laser-2370-Steering-Wheel-Puller-GM_W0QQitemZ290393551599QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Hand_Tools_Equipment?hash=item439ccdf2ef) is what you needed  ......

(http://i17.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/14/9e/7f30_35.JPG)
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: P_Russell on 23 January 2010, 08:42:27
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Good job .....  :y :y :y

I am a tad concerned though how long the "rest" will last ...  something has caused the plastic to break and bits to fall off and jam .. :(

:(

Thanks for the conern - I think it was caused by holding on to the indicator stalk when its trying to cancel.  We live on a very twisty housing estate and I myself have done this several times.  The indicator is then forced against the plastic reset mechanism which is obviously what caused the breakage through long term stress.  So, a change in driving habits should see it right.  Also when I say 'jam' you can still turn the wheel but the resistance suddenly increases and then frees up again.

Having said all that I will source a replacement - easy job now I know how to do it so a no-brainer.
Title: Re: Broken Steering Column
Post by: RobG on 24 January 2010, 10:07:35
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Good job .....  :y :y :y

I am a tad concerned though how long the "rest" will last ...  something has caused the plastic to break and bits to fall off and jam .. :(

:(

Thanks for the conern - I think it was caused by holding on to the indicator stalk when its trying to cancel.  We live on a very twisty housing estate and I myself have done this several times.  The indicator is then forced against the plastic reset mechanism which is obviously what caused the breakage through long term stress.  So, a change in driving habits should see it right.  Also when I say 'jam' you can still turn the wheel but the resistance suddenly increases and then frees up again.

Having said all that I will source a replacement - easy job now I know how to do it so a no-brainer.
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