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Title: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 16 January 2010, 20:20:07
right here we go. driving along today without warning the ol 3.0l just stopped. pushed it to a layby waited 10mins and it restarted drove for 200yrds stopped again and just kept doing this. got towed home and it ran on tickover all the way bout 15miles and stopped again waited 10mins and it restarted? any ideas! iam looking at either crank sensor or dispack?  its a 3.0l mv6 auto est. >:(
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 20:21:29
dose it have any fault codes?
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 16 January 2010, 20:24:06
no fault codes.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 20:25:11
faulty dis pack then would say.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Entwood on 16 January 2010, 20:25:29
My money's on a crank sensor ...

Paperclip it ...   

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687

and I expect a code 19
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 16 January 2010, 20:30:51
so looks like i have the choice but as its all on that side will change both got a dispack i thing am ordering sensor on monday from autovaux{dam good people}
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: pedroMV6 on 16 January 2010, 20:34:51
Blocked fuel filter?
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 16 January 2010, 20:36:40
got fuel filter to go on as well.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: davethediver on 16 January 2010, 21:02:28
Just make sure its a Genuine VX part and not a new for vauxhall pattern part as these tend to fail pretty quickly  :y
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 January 2010, 21:08:50
I'd go with crank sensor, if it was the dis pack it might be down a couple of cylinders :y
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Post by: dbug on 16 January 2010, 21:09:49
My money's on crank sensor.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 16 January 2010, 21:12:10
thats what i keep steering towards.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 21:12:59
if dis pack as crack in it they work for a bit then stop takes about ten min for them to work again.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 January 2010, 21:14:42
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if dis pack as crack in it they work for a bit then stop takes about ten min for them to work again.
All the ones i've ever replaced (and its quite a few) tend to cause a miss fire but the car still runs.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 16 January 2010, 21:15:43
will see when scuttle is off tommorow and start to look.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 16 January 2010, 21:16:53
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if dis pack as crack in it they work for a bit then stop takes about ten min for them to work again.
All the ones i've ever replaced (and its quite a few) tend to cause a miss fire but the car still runs.

Have to agree with you youth :y

Think this Rusty fella is on something. :-?
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 21:17:34
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if dis pack as crack in it they work for a bit then stop takes about ten min for them to work again.
All the ones i've ever replaced (and its quite a few) tend to cause a miss fire but the car still runs.
just saying farther inlaws did that and it had a crack in the seal at bottom.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 January 2010, 21:17:59
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if dis pack as crack in it they work for a bit then stop takes about ten min for them to work again.
All the ones i've ever replaced (and its quite a few) tend to cause a miss fire but the car still runs.

Have to agree with you youth :y

Think this Rusty fella is on something. :-?
I think he has an Ebay shop selling Dis packs ;D
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 21:19:42
no dont sell just buy and fix and sell on thanks.
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Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 16 January 2010, 21:21:08
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no dont sell just buy and fix and sell on thanks.


You buy and fix damaged dispacks then resell them?

What do you do with all the rusty plates that seem to burst out of the plastic??
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 16 January 2010, 21:22:10
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no dont sell just buy and fix and sell on thanks.

Do you sell them on or not then? I am puzzled :-?
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 16 January 2010, 21:23:45
me too. im confussed
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 21:23:53
no not dis packs, and why would there be rusty plates in side them??, LCD HDD DVDRW etc. dont sell on e-bay.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 16 January 2010, 21:24:50
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no not dis packs, and why would there be rusty plates in side them??, LCD HDD DVDRW etc.

I don't think you have every seen a used dispack.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 21:26:15
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no not dis packs, and why would there be rusty plates in side them??, LCD HDD DVDRW etc.

I don't think you have every seen a used dispack.
ive seen a lot of stuff but not a rusty one. plus all the one's ive seen are bacolite.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 16 January 2010, 21:26:39
dis-packs at dawn!
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 16 January 2010, 21:28:58
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me too. im confussed

Think Rusty confusses himself mate.

Your car like already said sounds more like the Crank Sensor, most of the time it will put the EML (engine management light) on as a code 19, but not always, I have seen a few now that haven't.
When dispacks are breaking down like already said the car may missfire.

Hope this clears it up for ya :y
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 January 2010, 21:29:41
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no not dis packs, and why would there be rusty plates in side them??, LCD HDD DVDRW etc.

I don't think you have every seen a used dispack.
I think your right Youth.
Rusty, A dis pack has an iron core and when they let water in the core rusts which expands causing the plactic to crack ::)
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 16 January 2010, 21:29:54
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no not dis packs, and why would there be rusty plates in side them??, LCD HDD DVDRW etc.

I don't think you have every seen a used dispack.
ive seen a lot of stuff but not a rusty one. plus all the one's ive seen are bacolite.


If you have not seen or know what I mean by Rusty Plates on a broken dispack you aint seen any.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: albitz on 16 January 2010, 21:46:53
Autovaux are good for some things, but personally the crank sensor is one of the things I would buy genuine from VX. ;)
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 16 January 2010, 21:47:54
yes me thinks crank sensless as well but i will look at the pack as well.
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 January 2010, 14:18:19
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no not dis packs, and why would there be rusty plates in side them??, LCD HDD DVDRW etc.

I don't think you have every seen a used dispack.
ive seen a lot of stuff but not a rusty one. plus all the one's ive seen are bacolite.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1263587658/new#new

 ::)
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 24 January 2010, 11:16:34
right update.!
 plenums off, scuttle off. down pipe off, fiter housing off, slacken cooler pipes(block ones) remove crank sensor (tie piece off wire to plug) seems to be a lot of oil under here lets check cam cover gaskets, remove plug leads from lh bank ooh lots of oil. dwn to the factors buy gaskets and oil go home time for a cuppa. refit crank sensor piggin job refit down pipe, refit filter housing time to do cam covers. intake off undo all the vac pipes, remove cam covers more ooh loads oil, clean old rtv off. take new gaskets out of packets!
  then lots off swearing" weres the kin O RINGS"phone the factors "SORRY DONT HAVE THOSE" so car sits awaiting 8 LITTLE BITS OF RUBBER. so that be autovaux on monday. another week begging and borrowing cars to get to work. :'(
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 01 February 2010, 17:32:39
update again!! all fixed and running sweet :)
   changed crank sensor., cam cover gaskets, new plugs, and oil change.  :y
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: PhilRich on 01 February 2010, 19:14:34
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update again!! all fixed and running sweet :)
   changed crank sensor., cam cover gaskets, new plugs, and oil change.  :y


Looks like the jobs a 'good un' :y
You can put your feet up for a while now Eh?, well, at least until the next problem rears its ugly head lol ;) ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: dead stop
Post by: biggriffin on 03 February 2010, 16:49:14
i would hope its all sorted. but give it time something will need fixing again.the joys of motoring ;D