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Title: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 03 February 2010, 09:44:47
Found the advisory for my new mig, only concern is
"Nearside idler mount Steering pivot point has slight play"

2 questions please, how much for the part and is it a pig to do ? could be the cause of woolly steering ? thats 3 !
I guess it will be a 4 wheel alignment after the change as well ... 
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: RobG on 03 February 2010, 09:52:26
Have a read of this and don`t buy the cheap pattern part
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1158598664
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 03 February 2010, 09:55:51
Thanks Rob, perfect !
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: Neil_MV6 on 03 February 2010, 09:56:40
Hiya

In answer to your questions:

1. £29.95 + £6.50 postage http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Steering-Idler-Arm-110mm-9195731-Omega-Carlton_W0QQitemZ190356449735QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2c5220e9c7#shId.

 :exclamation Don't be tempted by the cheaper ones on ebay, they're rubbish!!

2. Not too difficult to change, see guide here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1158598664

3. Yes, will cause tramlining and wondering on uneven road surfaces and a woolley sensation in the steering. Changing should tighted the steering noticably.

Good Luck  :y

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Ha, RobG beat me to it!  ;D
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: Andy H on 03 February 2010, 10:13:04
If the tracking was correct before the steering idler became worn then fitting a new one shouldn't require an alignment check.

However, if you are anywhere near Hertford it is well worth taking your Omega to WIM (Wheels in Motion) to have the suspension set up properly (especially the front camber).
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 03 February 2010, 12:38:27
Cheers !   :y

Only picked the car up Mon night, so not sure of tracking.
I'm in S Wales, so WIM prob a bit far.
I'll look for somewhere local.
Probably change idler sat if weather ok, and treat it to some new fluids and filters
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 04 February 2010, 08:35:22
More questions !

Did about 200 miles yesterday (30 mpg  :o)

Got a slight knock now over bumps, would the idler cause that ? 2 ball joints were changed for the mot, so hopefully nothing else is worn  :-/
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: RobG on 04 February 2010, 09:03:29
Probably droplinks. Easy and cheap enough to change. This pic shows where they are, black rod by shock arm with a balljoint top and bottom http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1219190177 :y
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 04 February 2010, 09:28:30
Cheers again Rob  :y

Found a pair on fleabay for £12 - cheap and nasty maybe ?
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: Seth on 04 February 2010, 10:19:55
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Cheers again Rob  :y

Found a pair on fleabay for £12 - cheap and nasty maybe ?

I changed a pair on Markseth's about a year ago, and still okay with no problems.
I think he paid about 18 quid for the pair from a local factors. They're readily available from many local outlets.
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: dragonlord on 04 February 2010, 14:58:40
wish id seen this befor

the robing bastards at vx dealer parts charged me 90 quid for the arm


Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 05 February 2010, 13:07:45
getting a pair from local motor factors tomorrow, i'll post here what they're like
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 08 February 2010, 08:57:57
Right... changed the idler yesterday, but had to cut the nut off the ball joint due to it popping out of the taper before the nut fully off   >:(

Anyone know the thread size please ?  18mm AF, so maybe m12 metric fine ?

Cheers
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 10 February 2010, 09:31:44
just an update for info, idler now changed, much less wander and vagueness in steering.

Offside front tyre is worn quite bad on inside though, so tracking needs doing.

And nut size is m12 x 1.5 (metric fine) for reference, had to aquire a die and run the threads down on mine !
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 10 February 2010, 09:36:36
Droplinks !

Picked up a pair from local motor factors, £18

Look good quality, and nearside fitted fine. Stay away from vx for these I think
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 February 2010, 10:47:47
Yeh well, beware....I have only found the FAI ones to be of any quality level!

Others have lasted anything between 1 week to 6 months.

As for inner edge tyre wear....camber!
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 10 February 2010, 11:21:26
Thanks marksdtm

is the camber adjustable ? or is it something else knackered   :-/

put a post up for somewhere local that can check it for me
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 February 2010, 11:41:37
Camber is adjustable.....-1deg 10' is the required setting (and dont let them tell you otherwise  :y)
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: mtbskills on 10 February 2010, 12:49:49
cheers !
Title: Re: Nearside idler mount play - advice please
Post by: PxMetro on 10 February 2010, 13:11:11
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Camber is adjustable.....-1deg 10' is the required setting (and dont let them tell you otherwise  :y)

Mark, Does this setting apply to all Omegas, including MV6? :question