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Title: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: kristopha_100 on 11 February 2010, 21:24:30
Hey, mines a 98' with the dull looking headlights... can I put the nice headlights on mine if I get some from the same year ??

kris
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: Bent valve on 11 February 2010, 21:57:27
Yes. But there are 2 types of 'nice' headlights. make sure that the ones you fit are Halogen and not Xenon, otherwise you will have to fit all the self levelling kit required as well .
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: dbug on 11 February 2010, 22:11:10
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Yes. But there are 2 types of 'nice' headlights. make sure that the ones you fit are Halogen and not Xenon, otherwise you will have to fit all the self levelling kit required as well .

How do you know that the OP has not got xenon lights??
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: Turk on 11 February 2010, 22:21:40
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Yes. But there are 2 types of 'nice' headlights. make sure that the ones you fit are Halogen and not Xenon, otherwise you will have to fit all the self levelling kit required as well .

How do you know that the OP has not got xenon lights??
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It's a '98. 
By xenon I assume you mean H.I.D.  Xenon does not mean HID exclusively. They could have Xenon H1 bulbs fitted, but these are not H.I.D.    
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: dbug on 11 February 2010, 23:17:52
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Yes. But there are 2 types of 'nice' headlights. make sure that the ones you fit are Halogen and not Xenon, otherwise you will have to fit all the self levelling kit required as well .

How do you know that the OP has not got xenon lights??
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It's a '98. 
By xenon I assume you mean H.I.D.  Xenon does not mean HID exclusively. They could have Xenon H1 bulbs fitted, but these are not H.I.D.    

Don't need self levelling kit for xenon filled H1 - do for xenon HIDs - fair assumption? :-?
Both our Elites are 98s and both factory fitted HID lights.
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: Turk on 11 February 2010, 23:46:53
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Yes. But there are 2 types of 'nice' headlights. make sure that the ones you fit are Halogen and not Xenon, otherwise you will have to fit all the self levelling kit required as well .

How do you know that the OP has not got xenon lights??
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It's a '98. 
By xenon I assume you mean H.I.D.  Xenon does not mean HID exclusively. They could have Xenon H1 bulbs fitted, but these are not H.I.D.    

Don't need self levelling kit for xenon filled H1 - do for xenon HIDs - fair assumption? :-?
Both our Elites are 98s and both factory fitted HID lights.
Well, ya live 'n' learn !  I thought HID's were a Facelift thing only. 
Elites only on mini F/L or an option across the range ? 
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: Entwood on 11 February 2010, 23:54:32
According to this ..

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152617113

Mini-facelift  Elites and MV6 got HIDs , others got projectors but with "normal" bulbs (which may contain xenon or halogen ..both being noble gases .. :)  )
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: mudflap on 12 February 2010, 06:39:08
those pre-facelift headlights do look bad, like they have become dirty or misted up inside, but they shine ok.


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Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: capoMV6 on 12 February 2010, 09:08:05
Reading thru the thread, am getting the impression that ALL MV6 has HID fitted? Mine's a '97 MV6. Correct me if i'm wrong.
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: dbug on 12 February 2010, 14:30:10
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Reading thru the thread, am getting the impression that ALL MV6 has HID fitted? Mine's a '97 MV6. Correct me if i'm wrong.

If you've got HIDs you will have headlight washers fitted and no manual light height adustment knob to left on light switch.
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: tunnie on 12 February 2010, 14:32:39
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Reading thru the thread, am getting the impression that ALL MV6 has HID fitted? Mine's a '97 MV6. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Is yours x-plod? MV6 Retail spec was not released until late 1998
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2010, 14:37:36
Prefacelift (>1997) - No HIDS
Minifacelift (1998-1999) - HIDs std on Elite and MV6 (retail and plod)
Facelift (2000-2003) - HIDs std on CDX, Elite and MV6 (retail and plod)
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: capoMV6 on 13 February 2010, 07:06:55
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Reading thru the thread, am getting the impression that ALL MV6 has HID fitted? Mine's a '97 MV6. Correct me if i'm wrong.

If you've got HIDs you will have headlight washers fitted and no manual light height adustment knob to left on light switch.

Am getting confused. Yes I have headlight washers and I have a dial which adjusts the headlight height? So which is which? :question :-/

I am about to change my headlights into angel eyes but when I looked at what bulb is installed I found none except for a rectangular fuse-like attachment with two wires.
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: dbug on 13 February 2010, 16:30:01
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Reading thru the thread, am getting the impression that ALL MV6 has HID fitted? Mine's a '97 MV6. Correct me if i'm wrong.

If you've got HIDs you will have headlight washers fitted and no manual light height adustment knob to left on light switch.

Am getting confused. Yes I have headlight washers and I have a dial which adjusts the headlight height? So which is which? :question :-/

I am about to change my headlights into angel eyes but when I looked at what bulb is installed I found none except for a rectangular fuse-like attachment with two wires.

Manual adjustment means NOT HIDs mate!!
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: kristopha_100 on 13 February 2010, 17:16:06
... So can I fit the nice lookig headlights ?
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: Entwood on 13 February 2010, 19:26:43
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... So can I fit the nice lookig headlights ?


You can fit non-HID lights, as long as they are "E" marked

:)
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: kristopha_100 on 14 February 2010, 16:28:49
How do I identify the non - HID lights ?

Does anyone have any pictures of these ?
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: Entwood on 14 February 2010, 16:41:25
HID lights look light normal projectors from the front ...  but at the back is a box about the size of a cigarette packet ... the ballast pack .. and loads of warnings about extreme high voltages.
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: kristopha_100 on 14 February 2010, 20:06:54
How do I find a set ???  and what do I ask for ?  Are they just called Omega non-HID's ???
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: Entwood on 14 February 2010, 22:52:39
New from VX will cost you an arm AND a leg !!!

From egay .. beware of non-E marked crap and lefthand drive fittings.

IMHO your best bet is the breakers in the "parts " section on the forum
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: 2woody on 16 February 2010, 09:48:33
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Yes. But there are 2 types of 'nice' headlights. make sure that the ones you fit are Halogen and not Xenon, otherwise you will have to fit all the self levelling kit required as well .

that's not necessarily correct......
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: Andy B on 16 February 2010, 09:55:41
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Yes. But there are 2 types of 'nice' headlights. make sure that the ones you fit are Halogen and not Xenon, otherwise you will have to fit all the self levelling kit required as well .

that's not necessarily correct......

[size=14]No Stu!!!! :o :o[/size] You don't know what you'll start!!!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: 2woody on 16 February 2010, 10:08:56
you're quick off the mark.

Mornin'
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Post by: Andy B on 16 February 2010, 10:19:09
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you're quick off the mark.

Mornin'

Mornin'  :y  :y
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: capoMV6 on 17 February 2010, 01:45:27
Guys,

I just replaced the headlights on my MV6. Here are the pictues :

Before :
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt263/capomv6/OMEGAMV6X30XE.jpg)

After :
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt263/capomv6/Photo_021710_003.jpg)

(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt263/capomv6/Photo_021710_002.jpg)

(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt263/capomv6/Photo_021710_001.jpg)

Cheers!
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: albitz on 17 February 2010, 07:38:18
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How do I identify the non - HID lights ?

Does anyone have any pictures of these ?
The lights you want are Projector lights. Breakers on the forum may have them but are sometimes nervous about posting them as the internal part of the adjusters are VERY fragile and can easily get damaged in transit. :y
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: kristopha_100 on 17 February 2010, 09:31:43
The new headlights in the picture are the ones I want. Thy look so much better.
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: capoMV6 on 17 February 2010, 11:00:17
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The new headlights in the picture are the ones I want. Thy look so much better.
They call these "fisheye" headlights. Very easy to install (DIY). Although I replaced the main beam's standard H1 55W halogen bulb into a 100W H7 bulb.  So much brighter. I think I don't need HIDs anymore.
Title: Re: New Headlights On An Old Car
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 17 February 2010, 16:57:10
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Reading thru the thread, am getting the impression that ALL MV6 has HID fitted? Mine's a '97 MV6. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Is yours x-plod? MV6 Retail spec was not released until late 1998

Not sure I agree with that Tunnie. I've got an original MV6 retail brochure somewhere and am sure it was dated '97. It will be a '98 model year, which would have been built following the factory break in Russelsheim summer '97. By the time they got to UK dealers it would be after the introduction of R reg on 1st August '97 - which is why you see R reg retail MV6's but never a P. My old MV6 was registered on an R in Feb 98.

HTH