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Title: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Squealey on 10 March 2010, 20:41:15
Evening all

Thanks to Autoglass I wont have my car back on the road till not long before April, and to say im a bit pee'ed off is an understatement.

But it gives me a chance to look at another problem. i completed the headgasket only a couple of days ago but due to having no MOT have been unable to do more than a blast around the block, but there seems to be a small problem, it takes about 5 seconds of cranking before it will fire, longer if cold. It used to literally be half a second and go, not any more.

Anyone come across this before and found a solution, or anyone got any ideas on what could be wrong?

As ever, thank you.

Wayne
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 March 2010, 20:56:50
Check that there are no leaks from the injector link (spill) pipes :y :y
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Squealey on 10 March 2010, 21:07:30
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Check that there are no leaks from the injector link (spill) pipes :y :y

Are those the short rubber pipes that run between each injector?
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: TheBoy on 10 March 2010, 21:11:14
yup. also bleed the pipes.  failing that, check glowplugs, but they aren't that old to be honest
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: hoofing it on 10 March 2010, 21:25:19
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yup. also bleed the pipes.  failing that, check glowplugs, but they aren't that old to be honest
have you knocked a wire(s) off the glowplug(s) when doing the h.g.
did it start ok before the h.g was changed.
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Squealey on 10 March 2010, 21:46:51
yeah, it started fine before the h.g and it also started fine when it had the dodgy h.g on it for a couple of hours. All the glow plug wires look good and attached.

Its not like im worried it won't start, its just as though its self bleeding every time.
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: hoofing it on 10 March 2010, 21:50:31
did you take the injectors out when the hg was done
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Squealey on 10 March 2010, 22:37:45
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did you take the injectors out when the hg was done

No, not at all.
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Seth on 10 March 2010, 22:45:16
My first TD was just like that too.
And that was even after a brand new injection pump!
I never did fathom this out, and there were no codes stored either.

My latest TD is absolutely 'on the button' - always :y
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Arrolman on 10 March 2010, 22:55:39
Hi,

I had this twice on my TD. First time was the spill pipe was split, second time was glowplugs knackered

Cheers,
Iain
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Pitchfork on 11 March 2010, 09:28:53
Lift pump in fuel tank
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Ddraigcymro on 11 March 2010, 10:09:47
Have you tryed puting car in gear with handbrake off and rock a little, after doing this will it start a little easyer.
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Squealey on 11 March 2010, 12:34:41
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Have you tryed puting car in gear with handbrake off and rock a little, after doing this will it start a little easyer.

Its an Auto :(
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: MickAP on 11 March 2010, 14:58:48
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Have you tryed puting car in gear with handbrake off and rock a little, after doing this will it start a little easyer.

What's the theory behind this one then, I mean how's that going to help? :-/

Mick ;)
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Ddraigcymro on 11 March 2010, 15:03:35
Well it wasnt a fool proof plan but I have found that if I put mine in gear and releas the handbrake I feal as though it starts on the button more often, could just be my car and compresion down or somthing just thought it might be of use for sombody.
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Entwood on 11 March 2010, 15:04:38
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Have you tryed puting car in gear with handbrake off and rock a little, after doing this will it start a little easyer.

What's the theory behind this one then, I mean how's that going to help? :-/

Mick ;)


Methinks someone has remembered an old trick on releasing a stuck starter motor ... used to work in 1960 odd !!!!

Has absolutely no relevance to the present problem however !!! which is EXCESSIVE cranking  NOT inability to crank !!!

 :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Excessive Cranking On My TD
Post by: Ddraigcymro on 11 March 2010, 15:06:09
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Have you tryed puting car in gear with handbrake off and rock a little, after doing this will it start a little easyer.

What's the theory behind this one then, I mean how's that going to help? :-/

Mick ;)


Methinks someone has remembered an old trick on releasing a stuck starter motor ... used to work in 1960 odd !!!!

Has absolutely no relevance to the present problem however !!!

Yes also worked for sticki starters but again didnt realise we were on about an auto