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Title: V6 Engine
Post by: david036 on 10 March 2010, 14:00:56
I have a 99 3.0 v6, getting pretty fed up with getting the rocker gaskets done.  Do all the v6's suffer from the same fate?  Was thinking about up grading to the 3.2. 
Has anybody tried this?  Is it and easy conversion??
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: Jimbob on 10 March 2010, 14:03:36
All the Omega V6's suffer, so no gain going to 3.2.  (just a lot of pain, very different setup, drive by wire etc)


Have you had the breather system cleaned?  That being neglected is the normal cause of the gaskets letting go.
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 March 2010, 14:03:57
If you're having frequent problems with the cam cover gaskets it points to a blocked breather system.

Kevin
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: Sixstring on 10 March 2010, 14:32:50
Is there a "how to" on this? think mine is going the same way..............

Mike. :(
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: Seth on 10 March 2010, 14:41:42
Try this:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564281

 :y
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: sjc on 10 March 2010, 14:50:32
Also, it's a false economy to use pattern gaskets.

The GM ones ain't cheap but they're a perfect fit every time.
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: Seth on 10 March 2010, 14:51:44
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Also, it's a false economy to use pattern gaskets.

The GM ones ain't cheap but they're a perfect fit every time.
Exactly :y
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: david036 on 11 March 2010, 14:16:39
thanks for the advice, will have a look at the breathers and hopefully should clean up!!
Spoke to vauxhall yesterday and they apparantly they have now stopped doing just the gaskets and are now supplied with the rockers top as well!!
Does this sound right or is my dealer trying to rip me off??
With a lovely price of £450 fitted!!
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: Andy H on 11 March 2010, 14:29:10
Did a major service on mine at the weekend. I have noticed the distinctive smell of oil on exhaust a few times recently so was not surprised to find that the breathers were blocked.

The usual advice is that once the cam covers have started to leak then they won't cure themselves but I did the 500 mile round trip to London and back without a wiff of hot oil AND it seems to be more economical too  :y

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Spoke to vauxhall yesterday and they apparantly they have now stopped doing just the gaskets and are now supplied with the rockers top as well!!
Does this sound right or is my dealer trying to rip me off??
They told me that years ago when I got my first V6 and I believed them  >:(

Someone will give you the part numbers if you ask nicely (or you should be able to find them in a recent thread if you can work the search function)
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: Andy B on 11 March 2010, 14:37:27
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Did a major service on mine at the weekend. I have noticed the distinctive smell of oil on exhaust a few times recently so was not surprised to find that the breathers were blocked.

The usual advice is that once the cam covers have started to leak then they won't cure themselves but I did the 500 mile round trip to London and back without a wiff of hot oil AND it seems to be more economical too  :y

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Spoke to vauxhall yesterday and they apparantly they have now stopped doing just the gaskets and are now supplied with the rockers top as well!!
Does this sound right or is my dealer trying to rip me off??
They told me that years ago when I got my first V6 and I believed them  >:(

Someone will give you the part numbers if you ask nicely (or you should be able to find them in a recent thread if you can work the search function)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564281  :y  :y

You will need:

A Good Tool kit which includes a selection of Torx sockets


Rocker gaskets: 90511451, one set per bank (£25+ Vat retail)
O-rings: 90411826, 8 per bank (13p+ VAT retail)
Gasket, Inlet bridge to head: 90501652, 2 off
Gasket, Inlet to Inlet bridge: 90501653, 3 off
Gasket, Inlet to Plenum O rings: 9118135, 6 off
Sealent, Black (not the Green stuff!): 90485251, 1 off


It is essential to use original Vx camcover gaskets, pattern parts dont last, fit badly and are often rock hard and squashed flat after 4 months running. Its your risk !!

Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: jonathanh on 11 March 2010, 17:23:54
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Did a major service on mine at the weekend. I have noticed the distinctive smell of oil on exhaust a few times recently so was not surprised to find that the breathers were blocked.

The usual advice is that once the cam covers have started to leak then they won't cure themselves but I did the 500 mile round trip to London and back without a wiff of hot oil AND it seems to be more economical too  :y

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Spoke to vauxhall yesterday and they apparantly they have now stopped doing just the gaskets and are now supplied with the rockers top as well!!
Does this sound right or is my dealer trying to rip me off??
They told me that years ago when I got my first V6 and I believed them  >:(

Someone will give you the part numbers if you ask nicely (or you should be able to find them in a recent thread if you can work the search function)

I'd suggest you pm andyc here.  no only will he tell you the truth about the availability of parts but he'll also do them at a good price and post them!
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: tport on 11 March 2010, 17:27:11
I bought all the parts, including just the gaskets, last weekend from the dealer with no problems.  Still yet to do the job though
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 11 March 2010, 17:30:24
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thanks for the advice, will have a look at the breathers and hopefully should clean up!!
Spoke to vauxhall yesterday and they apparantly they have now stopped doing just the gaskets and are now supplied with the rockers top as well!!
Does this sound right or is my dealer trying to rip me off??
With a lovely price of £450 fitted!!


Yesterday I ordered a new set for my 3.0 from my usual Vx dealer on trade card and they had them still as separate parts as usual 8-) 8-).

Your dealer is either stupid or trying it on!! >:( >:(
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 March 2010, 17:39:45
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thanks for the advice, will have a look at the breathers and hopefully should clean up!!
Spoke to vauxhall yesterday and they apparantly they have now stopped doing just the gaskets and are now supplied with the rockers top as well!!
Does this sound right or is my dealer trying to rip me off??
With a lovely price of £450 fitted!!


Yesterday I ordered a new set for my 3.0 from my usual Vx dealer on trade card and they had them still as separate parts as usual 8-) 8-).

Your dealer is either stupid or trying it on!! >:( >:(

Just lazy and can't use EPC properly >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: V6 Engine
Post by: david036 on 11 March 2010, 18:41:30
You will need:

A Good Tool kit which includes a selection of Torx sockets


Rocker gaskets: 90511451, one set per bank (£25+ Vat retail)
O-rings: 90411826, 8 per bank (13p+ VAT retail)
Gasket, Inlet bridge to head: 90501652, 2 off
Gasket, Inlet to Inlet bridge: 90501653, 3 off
Gasket, Inlet to Plenum O rings: 9118135, 6 off
Sealent, Black (not the Green stuff!): 90485251, 1 off


just copied this from the above thread, are these the prices for the genuine VX ones?  I have been quoted £62.00 each plus vat for them!!
After the last experience I'll not be buying any of the cheap ones again!!

Is the rocker top something that tends to go on these engines?  Is there problem that they warp slightly??