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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 22 December 2007, 21:27:32
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With many of us doing a lot long trips over the holiday period, I urge all 2.5 and 3.0 v6 owners to do a paperclip test.
If a 19 is stored, get a crank sensor!
For those not in the know, a crank sensor failure is pretty much the only sensor that can cause a v6 to break down. Trust me, I know, after mine finally gave up the ghost just outside Dijon, France, a couple of years back.
You usually get a warning of a 19 before it fails completely. Be aware, that normally, this code being stored does NOT bring on EML.
My advice is to paperclip every couple of months regardless.
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
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Mine started having difficulty starting from hot when it died, so if you notice symptoms like this, beware.
It was code 335 on the 3.2 IIRC, although you can't paperclip it, sadly.
Kevin
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With many of us doing a lot long trips over the holiday period, I urge all 2.5 and 3.0 v6 owners to do a paperclip test.
If a 19 is stored, get a crank sensor!
For those not in the know, a crank sensor failure is pretty much the only sensor that can cause a v6 to break down. Trust me, I know, after mine finally gave up the ghost just outside Dijon, France, a couple of years back.
You usually get a warning of a 19 before it fails completely. Be aware, that normally, this code being stored does NOT bring on EML.
My advice is to paperclip every couple of months regardless.
Really good advice :y
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Yes, 2.6 and 3.2 suffer the same issue, though not possible to paperclip. If you have access to a code reader, check for P0335 as Kevin Wood says....
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Checked mine a couple of days ago. I keep a close eye, as it's done 110k on the original sensor, routed up through the cooler pipes...
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Checked mine a couple of days ago. I keep a close eye, as it's done 110k on the original sensor, routed up through the cooler pipes...
mine failed at 114k...
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Checked mine a couple of days ago. I keep a close eye, as it's done 110k on the original sensor, routed up through the cooler pipes...
mine failed at 114k...
Thanks for that ;D
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mines done 148K so it is most likely overdue
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:'(I'm frightened. 99k & all good but i'm skint, just bought a Carlton, need a new washing machine v. soon,(Ģ70=7yrs) I read posts were certain probs rear their ugly heads @ certain mileages & it's scary. In a year or so's time things will be easier but until then i'm putting my head back in the sand!!!
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No need for me to paperclip, but I did remember to unlatch the rear seat so that I can get back in when I get home . . . ::)
(Battery dies, key doesn't fit door, can only get in through the boot. :-[ )
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I think I know what prompted this timely warning... :'( Thanks for the spot Jaime, and I'll be down the the dealers first thing Monday morning! :y
I might still play it safe and take the wife's Fiesta to Leeds on Boxing Day. :(
Baz.
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
Long live the 4 pots :y
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
But you can still drive them..... ;)
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
But you can still drive them..... ;)
suppose thats right,they just coff and fart every now and then >:( >:( >:( :y
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
Long live the 4 pots :y
wuupee!
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Here's the sensor on fleabay for the 2.6;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:IT&item=200099864324&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
Yep seems to suit a lot of the older folk/pensioners on the Forum ;D ;D
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
Yep seems to suit a lot of the older folk/pensioners on the Forum ;D ;D
;D ;D ;Dvery funny,i'm only 33,but the car is drawing it's pension with 161,000 miles on and nearly 13 years old ;D ;D ;D 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
I wish mine was a 4 potter :(
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
I wish mine was a 4 potter :(
Take a couple of spark plugs out or drive it around with the handbrake on ;D ;D ;D
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
I wish mine was a 4 potter :(
Take a couple of spark plugs out or drive it around with the handbrake on ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;Dweeehaaa what's a hand brake ;D ;D ;D
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
I wish mine was a 4 potter :(
When we gonna do that swap then ;)
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
I wish mine was a 4 potter :(
When we gonna do that swap then ;)
Oi you , what the break do you think your doing with my car, there will be no swap >:( >:( >:(
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
I wish mine was a 4 potter :(
When we gonna do that swap then ;)
Oi you , what the break do you think your doing with my car, there will be no swap >:( >:( >:(
Relax ;D ;D.was gonna swap him an OOF cap for his disused set of golf clubs ;D ;D
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
I wish mine was a 4 potter :(
When we gonna do that swap then ;)
Oi you , what the break do you think your doing with my car, there will be no swap >:( >:( >:(
Relax ;D ;D.was gonna swap him an OOF cap for his disused set of golf clubs ;D ;D
Ok Ok but donīt ever scare me like that again, i am getting to old for it ;D ;D
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I think I know what prompted this timely warning... :'( Thanks for the spot Jaime, and I'll be down the the dealers first thing Monday morning! :y
I might still play it safe and take the wife's Fiesta to Leeds on Boxing Day. :(
Baz.
Not a nice journey in the Fester. You have breakdown cover, I think I may risk it if it were me if it covered a 'relay' type service....
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
I wish mine was a 4 potter :(
When we gonna do that swap then ;)
Oi you , what the break do you think your doing with my car, there will be no swap >:( >:( >:(
Relax ;D ;D.was gonna swap him an OOF cap for his disused set of golf clubs ;D ;D
Ok Ok but donīt ever scare me like that again, i am getting to old for it ;D ;D
Do you have the same bus pass as AA then ;D ;D
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
Donīt knock it there is only 4 years difference ;) ;)
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
I wish mine was a 4 potter :(
When we gonna do that swap then ;)
Oi you , what the break do you think your doing with my car, there will be no swap >:( >:( >:(
Relax ;D ;D.was gonna swap him an OOF cap for his disused set of golf clubs ;D ;D
Ok Ok but donīt ever scare me like that again, i am getting to old for it ;D ;D
Do you have the same bus pass as AA then ;D ;D
Donīt knock it, there is only 4 years difference ;) ;) ;)
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
Donīt knock it there is only 4 years difference ;) ;)
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
long live the 4 potter 8-) 8-) 8-)
[size=40]THE 4 POTTER.....KING OF THE OMEGAS :y[/size]
;D ;D ;D...Yup, quite right, king of the Omegas... ;D ;D
I wish mine was a 4 potter :(
When we gonna do that swap then ;)
Oi you , what the break do you think your doing with my car, there will be no swap >:( >:( >:(
Relax ;D ;D.was gonna swap him an OOF cap for his disused set of golf clubs ;D ;D
Ok Ok but donīt ever scare me like that again, i am getting to old for it ;D ;D
Do you have the same bus pass as AA then ;D ;D
Donīt knock it, there is only 4 years difference ;) ;) ;)
Ahh well.it won't be long before you have yours then ;D
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Not a nice journey in the Fester. You have breakdown cover, I think I may risk it if it were me if it covered a 'relay' type service....
This thread seems to have degenerated somewhat - so it took me a while to find the sensible response... ;)
(V6s are miles better anyway - it was my main reason for buying the Omega in the first place - a bit of fun with the right foot - and I'm the wrong side of 50, so firmly on the side of the Grandads) ;D
If I can get the sensor to carry in the car with me, then I might just risk it - at worst I'll be spending Boxing Day contorting myself around the engine compartment - probably with Dad's help - and he's over 80!
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Its a good sound piece of advice but for me any journeys have to be done in the Omega.
For a start its my only car and secondly if I wanted to worry about the car breaking down everytime I drove it I would have bought something crap and unreliable like a Merc ;D
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Its a good sound piece of advice but for me any journeys have to be done in the Omega.
For a start its my only car and secondly if I wanted to worry about the car breaking down everytime I drove it I would have bought something crap and unreliable like a Merc ;D
For a younster you talk a lot of sense. You donut. ;D ;D ;D
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
But you can still drive them..... ;)
...only AFTER you manage to get the engine started :)
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Not a nice journey in the Fester. You have breakdown cover, I think I may risk it if it were me if it covered a 'relay' type service....
This thread seems to have degenerated somewhat - so it took me a while to find the sensible response... ;)
(V6s are miles better anyway - it was my main reason for buying the Omega in the first place - a bit of fun with the right foot - and I'm the wrong side of 50, so firmly on the side of the Grandads) ;D
If I can get the sensor to carry in the car with me, then I might just risk it - at worst I'll be spending Boxing Day contorting myself around the engine compartment - probably with Dad's help - and he's over 80!
For God's sake Baz! don't drive a rather fiesta all the way to Leeds!
Even if the CS goes, once it starts it wont normally stop, so make sure everyone has a wee before you start the drive.
Ps. Thanks of the card - Merry Christmas to you all!
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Good job ive a 4 pot then :y :y ;D
agree but us 4 potters still have the odd cam sensor fail,so i think it's swings and round abouts sorry :o :o :o
As AA says they will still start, struggle but will :y And not only the 2.2's it seems.......CraigR iirc told me his 2.0 will start as well with failed/disconnected cam/crank sensor
I think Its Really Good Advice TB There Seems to be alot of Crank Sensors Failling at the mo wonder if its to do with the weather ?
Yep Mine Started With the Cam Sensor Unpluged, but I Not With The Crank Sensor Unpluged but it could be knacked and it stil starts Fine
Craig
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I carry the correct sensor and a selection of tools in the boot with me after earlier warnings! :y
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Not a nice journey in the Fester. You have breakdown cover, I think I may risk it if it were me if it covered a 'relay' type service....
This thread seems to have degenerated somewhat - so it took me a while to find the sensible response... ;)
(V6s are miles better anyway - it was my main reason for buying the Omega in the first place - a bit of fun with the right foot - and I'm the wrong side of 50, so firmly on the side of the Grandads) ;D
If I can get the sensor to carry in the car with me, then I might just risk it - at worst I'll be spending Boxing Day contorting myself around the engine compartment - probably with Dad's help - and he's over 80!
For God's sake Baz! don't drive a rather fiesta all the way to Leeds!
Even if the CS goes, once it starts it wont normally stop, so make sure everyone has a wee before you start the drive.
Ps. Thanks of the card - Merry Christmas to you all!
Mine failed at about 85mph....
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Its a good sound piece of advice but for me any journeys have to be done in the Omega.
For a start its my only car and secondly if I wanted to worry about the car breaking down everytime I drove it I would have bought something crap and unreliable like a Merc ;D
For a younster you talk a lot of sense. You donut. ;D ;D ;D
First time for everything! It'll soon pass ;) ;D ;D
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For God's sake Baz! don't drive a rather fiesta all the way to Leeds!
Even if the CS goes, once it starts it wont normally stop, so make sure everyone has a wee before you start the drive.
Ps. Thanks of the card - Merry Christmas to you all!
Just a quick note to say we're back safely - with no hiccups from the Meega at all. :) The bad news is that I've not yet been able to match up the dealer holiday opening times with my own holiday opening times... ;)
If Tunnie's reading this - does the "Winter service" extend to fitting a new cam sensor??
Cheers,
Baz.
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For God's sake Baz! don't drive a rather fiesta all the way to Leeds!
Even if the CS goes, once it starts it wont normally stop, so make sure everyone has a wee before you start the drive.
Ps. Thanks of the card - Merry Christmas to you all!
Just a quick note to say we're back safely - with no hiccups from the Meega at all. :) The bad news is that I've not yet been able to match up the dealer holiday opening times with my own holiday opening times... ;)
If Tunnie's reading this - does the "Winter service" extend to fitting a new cam sensor??
Cheers,
Baz.
Its an easy job to fit new one
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For God's sake Baz! don't drive a rather fiesta all the way to Leeds!
Even if the CS goes, once it starts it wont normally stop, so make sure everyone has a wee before you start the drive.
Ps. Thanks of the card - Merry Christmas to you all!
Just a quick note to say we're back safely - with no hiccups from the Meega at all. :) The bad news is that I've not yet been able to match up the dealer holiday opening times with my own holiday opening times... ;)
If Tunnie's reading this - does the "Winter service" extend to fitting a new cam sensor??
Cheers,
Baz.
I dont know......but snapping off bolts getting to the cam sensor is a speciality of his ;D ;D ;D