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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Will B on 30 April 2010, 20:14:59
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Hi guy/gals
I'm hoping someone can help, I became the proud owner of my v6 cdx on the 29/04/10 and it's not been such a smooth transition as i'd of hoped. It's now the 30/04/10 and as I was driving her the alternator warning light came on, the engine overheated and the steering went solid. On inspection I found that the aux/drive belt had been chewed up and will need changing. :'(
My problem is I'm not sure of the route the belt takes as I hadn't been able to study it before it went and I could really do with a walkthrough guide to the replacement of the above item.
I have this no from your forum for the belt i'm not sure if it's correct: 93181718
and can anyone suggest a good place to get the parts from and an estimate of the cost?
thanks again for any help
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Also forgot to mention:
I noticed in a post that one of the forum members might do jobs for cash if so how much would you/they charge for the above?
I am located in Oxfordshire near wallingford
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Hi Will...
Just had the same deal on my 98 Estate...
The bearing on the tensioner seized and "ping"...
Being a cheapskate i just replaced the wheel (from the local scrappy after re greasing the bearing) and a new belt...
Tried to post the image but I'm stupid...
So its here :- http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8494/serpbeltroute.jpg
Steve
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Hi Will...
Just had the same deal on my 98 Estate...
The bearing on the tensioner seized and "ping"...
Being a cheapskate i just replaced the wheel (from the local scrappy after re greasing the bearing) and a new belt...
Tried to post the image but I'm stupid...
So its here :- http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8494/serpbeltroute.jpg
Steve
thanks steve thats amazing only posted it a few mins ago and already got the routing ;D now to find a place that is open tomoz and has one in stock lol
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Usually they shred as a result of tensioner bearing seizing - check thats ok first - top left hand side of engine when facing car.
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Same thing happened on my v6 a while back,tensioner seized,new tensioner and belt
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Usually they shred as a result of tensioner bearing seizing - check thats ok first - top left hand side of engine when facing car.
just had another look and removed the debris and one of the belt tensioners has sheered off also and the belt is shredded so you were correct cheers for the heads up just need to order that now :(
oh well only money lol
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Ah, that explains why it shredded (asked on the Oxford meeting thread).
If I get up early enough (and its dry) I may take the tensioner off Goldie and take it to Oxford, so you should be able to get on the road again this weekend
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lol just replied to you on the other thread
If you could that would be amazing I was meant to be visiting my mum on sunday in essex also would it be possible to complete in a day or is it quite tricky?
i've had a look and there is quite a bit of access just need to remove some pipes in the way held on by jubilee clamps
and i'd give you some money for the tensioner/time/effort
this is my first day being a member of this forum and everyone has been really helpful so far ;D
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Its a 10 minute job mate providing no other damage. One bolt and tensioner off, bolt replacement back on. Remove one awkward bolt on I think SAI pipe to thread belt through - route belt and tension, replace awkward bolt and jobs a goodun ;)
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Its a 10 minute job mate providing no other damage. One bolt and tensioner off, bolt replacement back on. Remove one awkward bolt on I think SAI pipe to thread belt through - route belt and tension, replace awkward bolt and jobs a goodun ;)
prolly needs bagpipes out to properly check the entire route over
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I have a pic I want to upload but cant figure out this insert pic thingy lol
help
I swear i will have her running by sunday again lol :D
oh and why do they sieze? can you prevent it?
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I have a pic I want to upload but cant figure out this insert pic thingy lol
help
I swear i will have her running by sunday again lol :D
oh and why do they sieze? can you prevent it?
lack of grease. you can re-grease quite easily tbh. :y
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(http://[IMG]http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/wiz1987/omega/2010_04300001.jpg)[/img]
there now that's the tensioner if i'm correct lol and as you can see the whole outer part is sheared off and now in my boot
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well fooked isnt it.
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Its a 10 minute job mate providing no other damage. One bolt and tensioner off, bolt replacement back on. Remove one awkward bolt on I think SAI pipe to thread belt through - route belt and tension, replace awkward bolt and jobs a goodun ;)
prolly needs bagpipes out to properly check the entire route over
Looking at ops pic don't look too drastic - should be able to see ok and swap without taking bagpipes out Jaime
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Its a 10 minute job mate providing no other damage. One bolt and tensioner off, bolt replacement back on. Remove one awkward bolt on I think SAI pipe to thread belt through - route belt and tension, replace awkward bolt and jobs a goodun ;)
prolly needs bagpipes out to properly check the entire route over
Looking at ops pic don't look too drastic - should be able to see ok and swap without taking bagpipes out Jaime
so all i do is remove old belt, take off tensioner bolt, removed seized tensioner, grease , add new tensioner, remove sia bolt ( dunno where that is lol) feed belt in and route it, then put tricky sia bolt back on.
which of the routes should i use i have AC so one of them but what is G? :-/ sorry i know i'm a biff but only had the car a day lol just bloody unlucky
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Its a 10 minute job mate providing no other damage. One bolt and tensioner off, bolt replacement back on. Remove one awkward bolt on I think SAI pipe to thread belt through - route belt and tension, replace awkward bolt and jobs a goodun ;)
prolly needs bagpipes out to properly check the entire route over
Looking at ops pic don't look too drastic - should be able to see ok and swap without taking bagpipes out Jaime
so all i do is remove old belt, take off tensioner bolt, removed seized tensioner, grease , add new tensioner, remove sia bolt ( dunno where that is lol) feed belt in and route it, then put tricky sia bolt back on.
which of the routes should i use i have AC so one of them but what is G? :-/ sorry i know i'm a biff but only had the car a day lol just bloody unlucky
That description makes the job sound easy. As easy as it should be, when you're trying to thread an 8' loop of 'fan belt' behind the bagpipes & SAI pipe, it's far easier to fit the belt with all the induction bagpipes removed .... especially if you've never fitted a belt before ;)
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Its a 10 minute job mate providing no other damage. One bolt and tensioner off, bolt replacement back on. Remove one awkward bolt on I think SAI pipe to thread belt through - route belt and tension, replace awkward bolt and jobs a goodun ;)
prolly needs bagpipes out to properly check the entire route over
Looking at ops pic don't look too drastic - should be able to see ok and swap without taking bagpipes out Jaime
so all i do is remove old belt, take off tensioner bolt, removed seized tensioner, grease , add new tensioner, remove sia bolt ( dunno where that is lol) feed belt in and route it, then put tricky sia bolt back on.
which of the routes should i use i have AC so one of them but what is G? :-/ sorry i know i'm a biff but only had the car a day lol just bloody unlucky
That description makes the job sound easy. As easy as it should be, when you're trying to thread an 8' loop of 'fan belt' behind the bagpipes & SAI pipe, it's far easier to fit the belt with all the induction bagpipes removed .... especially if you've never fitted a belt before ;)
yeah i think i will remove them just for access anyway :P
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Its a 10 minute job mate providing no other damage. One bolt and tensioner off, bolt replacement back on. Remove one awkward bolt on I think SAI pipe to thread belt through - route belt and tension, replace awkward bolt and jobs a goodun ;)
prolly needs bagpipes out to properly check the entire route over
Looking at ops pic don't look too drastic - should be able to see ok and swap without taking bagpipes out Jaime
so all i do is remove old belt, take off tensioner bolt, removed seized tensioner, grease , add new tensioner, remove sia bolt ( dunno where that is lol) feed belt in and route it, then put tricky sia bolt back on.
which of the routes should i use i have AC so one of them but what is G? :-/ sorry i know i'm a biff but only had the car a day lol just bloody unlucky
G is an idler pulley - unlikely you will have that on yours. The pic you want is the one marked AC (bottom left). HTH
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(http://[IMG]http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/wiz1987/omega/2010_04300001.jpg)[/img]
there now that's the tensioner if i'm correct lol and as you can see the whole outer part is sheared off and now in my boot
Yeah, a bit of chemical metal ain't gonna fix that one ;D
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I would remove bagpipes in this case - yes it can be done without, but probably as quick to pull them out. Easier to inspect that you have removed all parts of the shredded belt as well.
Route is (clockwise):
clockwise over tensioner, over to pas
clockwise over pas, down to a/c
clockwise over a/c, across to crank
clockwise around crank about 200 degrees, up to waterpump
anticlockwise around pump, down to alternator
clockwise around alternator back up to tensioner.
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I would remove bagpipes in this case - yes it can be done without, but probably as quick to pull them out. Easier to inspect that you have removed all parts of the shredded belt as well.
Route is (clockwise):
clockwise over tensioner, over to pas
clockwise over pas, down to a/c
clockwise over a/c, across to crank
clockwise around crank about 200 degrees, up to waterpump
anticlockwise around pump, down to alternator
clockwise around alternator back up to tensioner.
But a picture (or 3) is worth a thousand words :y
I found it easiest to fit the belt over the water pump last, as it's the only pulley without a side guide & my (OE) belt didn't have enough slack to do the tensioner last.
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8494/serpbeltroute.jpg)
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in andy b's diags above (from autodata?) its the last diagram :y
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in andy b's diags above (from autodata?) its the last diagram :y
I can't take credit from Steve (post #2 ;))
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Thanks to everyone who has posted on my thread :y
no way I would be willing to do it by myself otherwise without your help would of prob took it to the stealer's. New parts not here yet but will be dismantling her shortly in preparation.
Thanks again :D
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Its a 10 minute job mate providing no other damage. One bolt and tensioner off, bolt replacement back on. Remove one awkward bolt on I think SAI pipe to thread belt through - route belt and tension, replace awkward bolt and jobs a goodun ;)
prolly needs bagpipes out to properly check the entire route over
Looking at ops pic don't look too drastic - should be able to see ok and swap without taking bagpipes out Jaime
what is this SAI bolt that i will need to remove and where is it located? :-? :-?
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Its a 10 minute job mate providing no other damage. One bolt and tensioner off, bolt replacement back on. Remove one awkward bolt on I think SAI pipe to thread belt through - route belt and tension, replace awkward bolt and jobs a goodun ;)
prolly needs bagpipes out to properly check the entire route over
Looking at ops pic don't look too drastic - should be able to see ok and swap without taking bagpipes out Jaime
what is this SAI bolt that i will need to remove and where is it located? :-? :-?
here ... this one :y (it's actually back to front from the way it's fitted to the car ::))
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/Image0059.jpg)
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thanks for the pic, ok so would you remove it straight away? :-[
bloody bank holiday weekend still not got my bits even tho I ordered next day delivery
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If you have another car, I have the bits you require up here in Brackley...
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Its a 10 minute job mate providing no other damage. One bolt and tensioner off, bolt replacement back on. Remove one awkward bolt on I think SAI pipe to thread belt through - route belt and tension, replace awkward bolt and jobs a goodun ;)
prolly needs bagpipes out to properly check the entire route over
Looking at ops pic don't look too drastic - should be able to see ok and swap without taking bagpipes out Jaime
what is this SAI bolt that i will need to remove and where is it located? :-? :-?
here ... this one :y (it's actually back to front from the way it's fitted to the car ::))
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/Image0059.jpg)
How do I remove the SAI bolt any insider tips cos I'm having trouble? :-?
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dont forget if you are taking the multiram (bag pipes ) off make a note of where the vacume pipes go