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Title: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 31 December 2007, 16:23:58
taking the car apart to do the cam gaskets,  and i haven't even finished yet :o

took about an hour and half just to get the scuttle and plenum off.

some pics..
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets014Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets013Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets012Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets011Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets010Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets009Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets008Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets007Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets006Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets005Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets004Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets003Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets002Medium.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/tab_2006/camgaskets001Medium.jpg)

i've managed to strip it all down, clean the breather system, clean the throttle bodies and clean down the faces ready for the gaskets.

the plug wells were all full of oil so spent a bit of time get all that out.

did have a lot of help of the missus aswell :-*

you lot make it look so bloody easy ::)
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 31 December 2007, 16:24:54
oh the pics are back to front ::)
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Golfbuddy on 31 December 2007, 16:30:09
You look pretty happy after spending 6 hours at it. Looks like you're enjoying yourself though.  :y
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 31 December 2007, 16:34:48
yeah i'm quite confident, the guide off here is a big help aswell.

the breathers were practically clear apart from the tiny hole in the breather box which was solid.
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: miggy on 31 December 2007, 17:15:09
Hiya Tab, good pics but who is the ugly bloke... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 December 2007, 17:19:09
Good job though......get those throttle buterflies nice and clean and use a clothes peg to jam the throttle linkage whilst they are open as it makes it much easier......you might find the wives oven cleaner works better at getting the crudd off the butterflies....or paint stripper.

Its a good move taking the pictures.....they might be useful to refer to for re-assembly.

It takes me about 2.5 hours to do cam covers with cleaning (sometimes longer if things are very grubby) so your doing pretty well for a first time.

The internals look pretty clean which is always a good sign....and the cam lobe condition sudgests its had reasonale oil change intervals.

Also, whilst you have it in that condition.....give the EGR corrugated pipe a wiggle....if its loose tighten it up at the manifold end with a 24mm spanner.
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 31 December 2007, 17:20:22
ha ha, the missus got my bad side ;D

i was just celebrating getting the thing off, harder than it looks.

any ideas on how to get the last dregs out of the plug wells?

the turkey baster's too fat to go all the way in and i've soaked up most of it with kitchen roll.
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 December 2007, 17:22:35
Once most of its out I pop the plugs out and insert a piece of kitchen role on the end of a screwdriver and rotate it a few times.....its a good time to change the plugs if they havnt been done for some time.

You get a very small amount of oil in the bores but, it wont hurt as there is very little of it.....it will smoke a little when first started but soon clears.
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: miggy on 31 December 2007, 17:24:39
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Good job though......get those throttle buterflies nice and clean and use a clothes peg to jam the throttle linkage whilst they are open as it makes it much easier......you might find the wives oven cleaner works better at getting the crudd off the butterflies....or paint stripper.

Its a good move taking the pictures.....they might be useful to refer to for re-assembly.

It takes me about 2.5 hours to do cam covers with cleaning (sometimes longer if things are very grubby) so your doing pretty well for a first time.

The internals look pretty clean which is always a good sign....and the cam lobe condition sudgests its had reasonale oil change intervals.

Also, whilst you have it in that condition.....give the EGR corrugated pipe a wiggle....if its loose tighten it up at the manifold end with a 24mm spanner.

Mark, maybe you could do mine when they need it.....couple of mince pies in it for you ;D ;D ;D.
Seriousley, i pass your way a couple of times each month when i go up north to see the family.

Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 December 2007, 17:25:24
I'm sure we could come to some arrangement.....
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 31 December 2007, 17:25:27
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Good job though......get those throttle buterflies nice and clean and use a clothes peg to jam the throttle linkage whilst they are open as it makes it much easier......you might find the wives oven cleaner works better at getting the crudd off the butterflies....or paint stripper.

Its a good move taking the pictures.....they might be useful to refer to for re-assembly.

It takes me about 2.5 hours to do cam covers with cleaning (sometimes longer if things are very grubby) so your doing pretty well for a first time.

The internals look pretty clean which is always a good sign....and the cam lobe condition sudgests its had reasonale oil change intervals.

Also, whilst you have it in that condition.....give the EGR corrugated pipe a wiggle....if its loose tighten it up at the manifold end with a 24mm spanner.

that's the main reason why we took pics as i might get a bit stuck putting it back together.

good idea with the clothes peg, i just held them open and scrubbed with a tooth brush.

i think whoever did them last only changed one side as the leaking side had hard brittle gaskets and the other side was still quite soft.
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 31 December 2007, 17:26:20
What state were the breathers in?

Did you give the idle valve a good clean whilst there?
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 31 December 2007, 17:29:28
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Once most of its out I pop the plugs out and insert a piece of kitchen role on the end of a screwdriver and rotate it a few times.....its a good time to change the plugs if they havnt been done for some time.

You get a very small amount of oil in the bores but, it wont hurt as there is very little of it.....it will smoke a little when first started but soon clears.

i've got a garage receipt from january saying the plugs,oil, filter and brake fluid were all changed and the cars done about 4000.
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 31 December 2007, 17:31:30
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What state were the breathers in?

Did you give the idle valve a good clean whilst there?

they were suprisingly clear, the pipes and the box on top of the plenum. i cleaned them out anyway and i'll do the icv aswell tommorrow.

the little brass pipe on the breather box was solid thoug, i used a pin to clear that with.
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: miggy on 31 December 2007, 17:34:08
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What state were the breathers in?

Did you give the idle valve a good clean whilst there?

they were suprisingly clear, the pipes and the box on top of the plenum. i cleaned them out anyway and i'll do the icv aswell tommorrow.
the little brass pipe on the breather box was solid thoug, i used a pin to clear that with.

Thats if you dont have an hangover
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 31 December 2007, 17:35:04
i work better with a hangover ::)
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Paulus on 31 December 2007, 18:51:00
Oven Cleaner is your friend...it is designed to eat carbon deposits. It stinks, but works very well.
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 31 December 2007, 18:57:26
aah i'll try some of that, what should i use to wash it off with? wd40?
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tony H on 31 December 2007, 19:17:27
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Oven Cleaner is your friend.[.it is designed to eat carbon deposits. It stinks, but works very well.
Use with care not too friendly with aluminium
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Paulus on 31 December 2007, 19:20:34
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Oven Cleaner is your friend.[/highlight]..it is designed to eat carbon deposits. It stinks, but works very well.
Use with care not too friendly with aluminium

True...but it isn't going to be on there for hours, so any potential damage would be minimal. Get your toothbrush out and work in the Mr Muscle, then leave it for 30 mins.

I used Carb Cleaner to rinse it all away...and lots of it. I think I used at least a couple of cans. Worth it though.
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 31 December 2007, 20:20:12
yep..

mr muscle and low number polish paste works good..

Good job :y
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 01 January 2008, 17:34:23
mission accomplished!!! ;D ;D

all together 9 hours it took, fitted the new gaskets and put it al back together, fired up first time :)

went for a drive to drop my dads tools off( about ten miles) and no leaks ;D

there is a bit of smoke but i'm thinking that's just the old oil on the exhaust.

i'm so chuffed that me and the missus managed to do this, probably the biggest job i've ever done on a car.

thanks for the help people :y
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Elite Pete on 01 January 2008, 17:42:07
Nice one :y

Time for you and the misses to put your feet up and have a well earned beer ;)
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: gstylebaby on 01 January 2008, 17:47:18
Sound like a good job well done nice one  :y
Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Tab on 01 January 2008, 17:58:57
thanks guys, just got the droplinks to do next and then the cambelt when i can get the cash together.

doing this job has boosted my confidence to tackle other things ;D

Title: Re: just spent 6 hours...
Post by: Golfbuddy on 01 January 2008, 18:14:12
Brilliant Tab. Less than 2 months since you joined the forum and look what you've done. What a great start to the new year.  :y :y :y