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Title: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Paulus on 28 December 2007, 11:15:48
A good friend of mine, not on this forum, has had his cambelt break  :'(. He has given me first refusal on the car as he is going to scrap it.

If I bought it off him, what could be the very worse case senario for the engine? Could the pistons be damaged? If so, how big a job is that? I know it will need new heads/valves etc which I can do, but is it worth tackling if the damage is too much?

If I don't buy it from him, he said that I can strip what I want off it first before he scraps it.

It's a "R" reg CDX with black leather interior. The odd spot of rust, but generally well looked after.

So, whatcha recon? Is it worth it? He only wants £100 for it.
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: TheBoy on 28 December 2007, 11:33:38
if you have space to break it, there is a lot of money in that.

If you want to fix, its likely just a set of heads will suffice.
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Markie on 28 December 2007, 11:45:56
More money in breaking it - lots of bits that will sell easily. Even things you may not think of ( ive just sold some dash buttons from a cdx i broke nearly a year ago!!)

As a fixer, as TB mentions your looking at a head rebuild or more likely new heads, and of course new belt / tensioners ( may as well do water pump too) so the price will rise and rise as a fixer....
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Paulus on 28 December 2007, 12:26:26
I think I'd rather fix it...my drive is already a bit congested. I agree though, there is more money in breaking it.

I'll have a chat with my bud when I see him next and strike a deal  :)
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Markjay on 28 December 2007, 14:04:27
As TB said, replacement heads is best option, because you may have as many as 16-24 bent valves and these are expensive.

But there is also the chance of lower-end damage resulting in piston/rings/connecting rods damage etc, in which case a second-hand engine is best bet.

If you are certain that you don't want to break it in spite of it bringing in more money than the car is worth, then is all down to what you discover when you start striping it down. But be prepared for worst-case scenario i.e. complete engine needed.

Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: markey mark on 28 December 2007, 15:45:51
well if you dont have it bud i have got £150 here for it and i have a spare set of heads to repair it and pass it on !!!  ;)
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Paulus on 28 December 2007, 19:09:49
Ok Markey...I'll bear that in mind. I won't be seeing him until the new year though.
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: markey mark on 28 December 2007, 20:46:50
no worries mate just let me know !! glad you sorted that arm ! was looking in garage today and found a few spares  :y :y
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Paulus on 29 December 2007, 17:58:32
UPDATE!

I haven't personally seen the car since it died. Buy I had a phone call from my mate today. He tried to start it again. Apparently, it ran (badly) for about 5 seconds before dying again.

Could this be something else then?
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Tab on 29 December 2007, 18:15:50
not the cambelt broke then but it might have jumped a tooth or 2.

personally i wouldn't start it again untill he knows what exactly is wrong, could be as simple as a sensor.

is the em light on?
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Paulus on 29 December 2007, 20:05:14
Well, it turns out that the cambelt has slipped...3 teeth.

Whatcha think now? Compression check time?
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2007, 20:06:49
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Well, it turns out that the cambelt has slipped...3 teeth.

Whatcha think now? Compression check time?
Should just get away with 3 teeth....
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Paulus on 29 December 2007, 20:06:49
Correction...I read his email wrong...it's 3 inches of teeth that have been stripped.
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: markey mark on 29 December 2007, 20:23:57
thats it fooked then bud !!! offer still stands bud !! ;) :y
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2007, 20:29:43
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Correction...I read his email wrong...it's 3 inches of teeth that have been stripped.
Best get some heads then.....
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Markie on 29 December 2007, 20:34:37
check it yourself, compression test it, but if it HAS slipped that much..........lose the heads  ::)
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Jay w on 29 December 2007, 21:09:21
i know of two 2.5 heads in good nick for sale if you need some
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Paulus on 29 December 2007, 22:04:54
I'll be seeing him now on 2nd Jan. I think he might just want to get rid. If he does, I will probably have it off him...if the price is right.

Sir Jay W....if I do, I'll let you know as it is a 2.5  ;D
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Paulus on 31 December 2007, 18:43:26
I'm on the look-out now...anyone got some for was at less than 50p?  :P
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Jay w on 31 December 2007, 19:55:56
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I'm on the look-out now...anyone got some for was at less than 50p?  :P

the heads are here, if you are interested PM me  :y
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Paulus on 02 January 2008, 14:48:55
Ok Ladies and Gentlemen...my friend has decided to sell. He has been initially offered £200 from a scrappie, but he would prefer to sell it as a repair job. Offers IRO £200...just a bit more info...silver, R reg, CDX 2.5, full black leather, not sure of the mileage but it isn't astronomical, plus it has got a full VX service history.

PM me if you are interested and I will give you his contact details. The car is in Coventry.
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: markey mark on 02 January 2008, 16:46:46
pm sent buddy !! ;D
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: Dexter on 02 January 2008, 18:07:03
Do you mean you can do the technical bit of changing the cylinder head etc if crushed valves is the only problem...?
Title: Re: Oh dear...another dead Omega
Post by: markey mark on 02 January 2008, 18:24:54
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Do you mean you can do the technical bit of changing the cylinder head etc if crushed valves is the only problem...?

 yes mate i can got a pair of very good heads sat in my garage waiting for it !! ;D