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Title: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Impact Pete on 27 May 2010, 18:52:15
In OOf's members opinions, if the drivers solenoid has failed completely after working intermitantly for a day, is it likely to be knackered or is there a glimmer of hope that it may need cleaning and lubing!
stuck at inlaws for a few days and have the time to strip the door down, but if it needs replacing don't know anyone near here that has a trade club card, or infact where a local dealer is
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: jonnycool on 27 May 2010, 19:02:57
Think I read here recently that the door 'solenoid' is actually a motor, worth cleaning and lubing in my opinion  :y

Jon
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 27 May 2010, 19:08:54
have the same problem.. tried lubing..

but no chance , needs changing now :-/
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Impact Pete on 27 May 2010, 19:11:26
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Think I read here recently that the door 'solenoid' is actually a motor, worth cleaning and lubing in my opinion  :y

Jon

thats what i'm thinking, use the term solenoid but I think your right it's a motor, certainly listed as motor on spares
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Welung666 on 27 May 2010, 20:02:04
I've got one here Pete if you're stuck :y
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Impact Pete on 27 May 2010, 20:13:12
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I've got one here Pete if you're stuck :y

excellent :y, I will have a look over weekend and as I suspect if is knackered how much do you want for it, back in the midlands thur next week
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Welung666 on 27 May 2010, 20:17:11
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I've got one here Pete if you're stuck :y

excellent :y, I will have a look over weekend and as I suspect if is knackered how much do you want for it, back in the midlands thur next week

I've got it in the portable parts store car already ;) Will you be passing me on your way home? If you are pop in, have a cuppa and I'll stick it on for you ;) :y
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Impact Pete on 27 May 2010, 20:31:08
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I've got one here Pete if you're stuck :y

excellent :y, I will have a look over weekend and as I suspect if is knackered how much do you want for it, back in the midlands thur next week

I've got it in the portable parts store car already ;) Will you be passing me on your way home? If you are pop in, have a cuppa and I'll stick it on for you ;) :y

I will be coming up M1 to Derby but as much as I would be happy to stop by the wife would not! >:(
She laughs at me for my dedication to fixing the car up but as I have pointed out if we had followed a garages opinion our lovely car would be on the scrap heap, but after the run down here to kent 200 miles at 75mph the car has proved itself after all the work and tweeking as we managed a 34mpg average highest so far in last 3 years, first time that we have arrived with more than half a tank of petrol! :)

well chuffed 8-)
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Steveplumb on 27 May 2010, 20:37:38
Having striped one down a couple of weeks ago i am pretty sure it is the micro switches at the end of travel of the worm drive linked to the motor that fail or go ' intermitant' The motor itself was absolutely  fine.  Didn't really do anything to it but when I put it back it worked fine  ................................................ for 2 weeks then failed again . Have now got a replacement from the scrap yard ..so its a chance how long it will last .  We really ought to source replacement switches , they would only cost pence and replacement didn't look too tricky  hmmm  can I be bothered ?   
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Impact Pete on 27 May 2010, 20:43:21
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Having striped one down a couple of weeks ago i am pretty sure it is the micro switches at the end of travel of the worm drive linked to the motor that fail or go ' intermitant' The motor itself was absolutely  fine.  Didn't really do anything to it but when I put it back it worked fine  ................................................ for 2 weeks then failed again . Have now got a replacement from the scrap yard ..so its a chance how long it will last .  We really ought to source replacement switches , they would only cost pence and replacement didn't look too tricky  hmmm  can I be bothered ?   

I know the feeling I would think the replacing the whole unit with a second hand one is cheapest easiest option
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Welung666 on 27 May 2010, 20:57:17
Pete will you be coming to the June ABS/OOF meet at the Plank? I can do it then if you are ;) If you don't mind I'll have your old one and look into the microswitch options, see if I can't get a repair service going ;) :y
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Terbs on 27 May 2010, 21:26:48
Maybe this is not appropriate to your actual fault, but a few years ago I had a Senator that had drivers door locking problems. It turned out to be a broken wire between door and door pillar.
My Omega has this locking fault now, and whilst delving into the dreaded retaining arm ripping out syndrome, when manipulating the wires, the locking suddenly worked.  :) I suspect a broken wire  again.!!!
Just food for thought :y
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Impact Pete on 27 May 2010, 22:39:38
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Maybe this is not appropriate to your actual fault, but a few years ago I had a Senator that had drivers door locking problems. It turned out to be a broken wire between door and door pillar.
My Omega has this locking fault now, and whilst delving into the dreaded retaining arm ripping out syndrome, when manipulating the wires, the locking suddenly worked.  :) I suspect a broken wire  again.!!!
Just food for thought :y

hi no definately not wiring it still has power to it all fine, good idea though :y
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Impact Pete on 27 May 2010, 22:42:08
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Pete will you be coming to the June ABS/OOF meet at the Plank? I can do it then if you are ;) If you don't mind I'll have your old one and look into the microswitch options, see if I can't get a repair service going ;) :y

would like to, when is it again?
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 May 2010, 10:32:19
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Having striped one down a couple of weeks ago i am pretty sure it is the micro switches at the end of travel of the worm drive linked to the motor that fail or go ' intermitant' 

Right on the money :y

I suspect the grease gets into them or something.

If going to the trouble of taking the door card off, etc. I would have a known good motor to hand just in case.

Might as well clean up the lock mechanism and re-lube it with some white grease while it's out but, IME, it's not normally a stiff mechanism that causes the problem.

I have a failed motor that I've been meaning to dissect. I recall a member was able to source a replacement microswitch from Maplin which fitted with a bit of modification. Going back a year or two now.

Kevin
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Welung666 on 28 May 2010, 12:35:11
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Pete will you be coming to the June ABS/OOF meet at the Plank? I can do it then if you are ;) If you don't mind I'll have your old one and look into the microswitch options, see if I can't get a repair service going ;) :y

would like to, when is it again?

2nd Sunday of every Month :y
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: bodach on 29 May 2010, 11:45:40
Hi Guys

I had this problem a few months ago, I removed the solenoid/motor I didnt have a replacement so put it all back together and it was worse than previously.
I read on the forum somewhere a guy had soaked it with WD40 and worked it manually for a while and it was fine.
So I took off the door panel again but this time left the solenoid/motor in situ and sprayed it with WD40 + worked it using the manual door lock lever/button lots of times, hey presto saved me 74 squids for a new one. Its still fine 2 months later.
There is a good guide to removing the door panel is on the forum.
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: eliteomegaman on 29 May 2010, 15:06:45
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Hi Guys

I had this problem a few months ago, I removed the solenoid/motor I didnt have a replacement so put it all back together and it was worse than previously.
I read on the forum somewhere a guy had soaked it with WD40 and worked it manually for a while and it was fine.
So I took off the door panel again but this time left the solenoid/motor in situ and sprayed it with WD40 + worked it using the manual door lock lever/button lots of times, hey presto saved me 74 squids for a new one. Its still fine 2 months later.There is a good guide to removing the door panel is on the forum.

Great advice mate! i've got the same problem myself so will try it on mine & keep my fingers crossed!!  :y
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: robson on 29 May 2010, 17:51:10
Mine was sticky on and off Sprayed it with WD 40 and that killed it completely Got one from breakers and is ok at present
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: John Lewis on 29 May 2010, 17:57:10
Done this job before, its not too hard at all, just make sure you've got every screw out, especially the one behind the door handle rubber and the door lever plastic, or you'll do your own head right in!

Might be in need of one myself shortly, anyone else got a spare one?
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 May 2010, 21:10:08
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1275155914

Hot off the press, by popular demand. :)

Kevin
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Andy B on 29 May 2010, 21:19:01
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1275155914

Hot off the press, by popular demand. :)

Kevin

Quite impressive Kevin!  :y :y :y
I never have enough of my work bench free enough for such a major strip down!  ;) :y
Title: Re: front door solenoid failure
Post by: Impact Pete on 30 May 2010, 12:44:24
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1275155914

Hot off the press, by popular demand. :)

Kevin

nice one, the fact that it worked once yesterday makes me feel that it just needs a good clean.
waitin for better weather to get door card off