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Title: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 17:48:20
hello just changed my 3.0 v6 engine for another one but the fuel pump is in active would the manifold switch over valve solenoid valve have anything to do with this if broken any help much appreciated
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: Elite Pete on 01 June 2010, 17:51:14
Do the paperclip test and put the codes up :y
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 01 June 2010, 19:25:00
[cough]30[/cough]
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 19:30:51
sorry dont understand
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 20:08:29
ive done the paper clip test it came up with 19 135 144 any ideas
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: Andy H on 01 June 2010, 20:37:08
Fuel pump doesn't run unless there is a signal from the crank position sensor.

19   Incorrect RPM Signal
135   Telltale (Checklight) Voltage Low
144   Immobiliser No Signal

Motronic 2.8.1 (V6 Engines) fault codes (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1160152415)

I don't think damage to the plenum solenoid is significant. Both code 19 and 144 could prevent the engine starting :(
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 21:37:53
cheers think i may have to visit vauxhall cause im not sure on what they mean ie incorrect rpm signal and no immobiliser signal
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: hoofing it on 01 June 2010, 21:42:56
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hello just changed my 3.0 v6 engine for another one but the fuel pump is in active would the manifold switch over valve solenoid valve have anything to do with this if broken any help much appreciated
I take it you have done a engine transplant. :-/

Title: Re: engine change
Post by: CaptainZok on 01 June 2010, 21:44:33
Firstly, you might like to put your location in your profile. Someone local may be able to help if they know where you are.
 A 19 is a code showing your crank sensor is faulty which ultimately will stop the car from running but as you say you have just changed the engine it may be an old code from previously.
So you could do with getting someone to read and clear the fault codes then see if it chucks the 19 back up to suggest a faulty C/S.
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: Andy H on 01 June 2010, 21:45:57
Members of this forum will be able to answer any questions you might have about the Omega and many more that you haven't even thought of yet. (and won't charge you)

Chances are that you have disturbed the wiring to the crank sensor and the immobiliser but without some clues as to what you have done to your car we can't really help much :(
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: hoofing it on 01 June 2010, 21:48:06
I was thinking along the line of did the new engine come with the sensor which could be duff or was the original one used :y
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2010, 21:48:15
Does the engine actually turn over, and if so is the EML flashing whilst it`s turning :question
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 21:53:31
it turns over and the sensor came off the old engine whice the cam belt snapped on and yes it is fully transplated and the eml does not flash when turning over its on all the time
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2010, 21:54:48
Does the EML flash when the engine is turning :question
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 21:56:44
no it is permently on when turning over
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2010, 21:59:41
144 is possibly old code. Change crank sensor for genuine.
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 22:03:45
i will do that and see what happens cheers
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2010, 22:03:47
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cheers think i may have to visit vauxhall cause im not sure on what they mean ie incorrect rpm signal and no immobiliser signal
Why visit Vauxhall :o I`m only up the road, got a TC card 8-) and can clear your codes :y
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 22:06:34
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cheers think i may have to visit vauxhall cause im not sure on what they mean ie incorrect rpm signal and no immobiliser signal
Why visit Vauxhall :o I`m only up the road, got a TC card 8-) and can clear your codes :y
where abouts are you to
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2010, 22:07:48
10 minutes from the mall motorway exit
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 22:09:04
not far at all then the only thing is car not running so may be a prob
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2010, 22:12:41
The "book" only lists one type crank sensor for the 3 litre
2.6/3.0/3.2                                  90540743 £55.00 £49.56 £42.63
+ Vat
 


 
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 22:17:05
thanks for that will be getting one tommorow
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2010, 22:19:20
Give these a ring see if they have that part number in stock
 Uphill

Aisecombe Way
Weston-Super-Mare
Somerset, BS22 8NA
 
Parts Tel: 01934 427720
Parts Fax: 01934 427781
 
Have you got a Trade Club card :question
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: jondavis on 01 June 2010, 22:24:53
thank you very much for your help i really appreciate it and i do not have a trade club card unfortunatly
Title: Re: engine change
Post by: andyc on 02 June 2010, 09:56:45
Think you might find that the dealer in WSM isn't called Uphill anymore ::)

Andy