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Title: Camber Adjusted or not as it turns out ....results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 15:46:35
Hi all ... just had a new n/s track rod fitted and asked them to do the geometry as well .
I will post up my geometry adjustments if someone can tell me how to put up the little degree symbol ... i dont know how to do it  :-[
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Welung666 on 22 July 2010, 15:54:48
Hold down the ALT key, type 0176 on the number pad and release the ALT, which gives you  ° :y
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 15:59:57
Ok thanks ... i'll start typing  :y
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 16:22:18
Aww i had it all typed out then somehow i hit the back button and lost the lot  >:( >:( >:(

I'll try a pic instead .
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 16:36:01
Cant get a picture big enough to read it .....
Anyway everything is in the green except the camber which reads Front Left -2°39' and Front Right -2°43'   :-/
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 16:37:26
Strangley driving the car now feels a lot better than it did .... i suppose the fronts will be worn quickly at these settings though  :'(
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Jimbob on 22 July 2010, 16:38:11
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Cant get a picture big enough to read it .....
Anyway everything is in the green except the camber which reads Front Left -2°39' and Front Right -2°43'   :-/


If that is the after reading...say bye bye to your tyres!   :o
-1°10 is the setting required.
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 16:52:56
How is the camber adjusted on these ... so i can go back armed and ready for any excuse they may have .
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 16:57:26
If someone has TIS or can put up an image for me to see where and how its adjusted please i would be very greatfull .... so i will be better armed for going back in on Tuesday morning  :y
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Liam on 22 July 2010, 17:10:46
Camber is adjusted by slackening the two bolts between the hub carrier and the strut, knocking the wheel about a bit, then doing them back up again. Your best ammo is the fact that the camber numbers aren't 'green' which means they're not even within vauxhall's slack tolerances. Did they actually touch camber at all or was it just the tracking? I certainly hope you didn't pay for camber adjustment.
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 17:17:30
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Camber is adjusted by slackening the two bolts between the hub carrier and the strut, knocking the wheel about a bit, then doing them back up again. Your best ammo is the fact that the camber numbers aren't 'green' which means they're not even within vauxhall's slack tolerances. Did they actually touch camber at all or was it just the tracking? I certainly hope you didn't pay for camber adjustment.

Just off the phone and they said they didnt do camber because they didnt think it was adjustable ... i assured them it can be adjusted so its going back on Tuesday
I did pay for geometry check and align .
Give them there due they admitted a mistake and are going to adjust it ... just my luck really  :-/
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 July 2010, 17:54:51
Tell them you want it setting to -1deg 10 and not 'in the green'

They will also need to re-set the tracking at the front to
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 18:00:46
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Tell them you want it setting to -1deg 10 and not 'in the green'

They will also need to re-set the tracking at the front to

I did mention that figure on the phone ... he said after checking Auto Data or something other than the data they used at the time that they did make a mistake and that it can be adjusted .... so does it need wieght in the car at the time or just adjust to -1°10' as it stands ?  :y
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 18:03:17
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Tell them you want it setting to -1deg 10 and not 'in the green'

They will also need to re-set the tracking at the front to

Tracking at the moment reads Front Left Toe 0°04' and Front Right 0°02'   ... how do those numbers look ?
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Liam on 22 July 2010, 18:38:08
They will change significantly when the camber is adjusted.
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 22 July 2010, 18:43:51
I have just found my Haynes book of lies .... i knew i had one but misplaced it .. anyway it gives a kind of proceedure in there for doing it ... may take it with me when it goes back in on Tuesday  :y
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted or not as it turns out ....results
Post by: Liam on 22 July 2010, 19:10:07
Do make sure you're firm about the setting you want - if they're anything like the local place i tried once, they'll just want to undo the bolts, hit the wheel with a hammer till the numbers are green, and do the bolts up again. Ideally there should be weight in the seat so that the camber is st at a realistic static ride height.
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted or not as it turns out ....results
Post by: Chris_H on 22 July 2010, 21:54:26
I set mine by eye and when I had it checked by a friend who has the gear it was spot-on.  Semi-fluke.

I would recommend scribing a line down the edge of the strut on the hub so that you can see where it was before adjustment.
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted or not as it turns out ....results
Post by: TheBoy on 22 July 2010, 22:02:10
This is precisely why we recommend the likes of Wheels-inmotion who understand Omega geometry over a bunch of retards with the right equipment but no knowhow on how to use it.

Haynes/Autodata et el simply reprint GM specs. GM's specs were way too wide to start with when all the suspension/bushes/shocks/spings/steering were brand spanking new, and seemingly hopeless when a bit of wear has crept in.


Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: feeutfo on 22 July 2010, 22:46:12
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Tell them you want it setting to -1deg 10 and not 'in the green'

They will also need to re-set the tracking at the front to

Tracking at the moment reads Front Left Toe 0°04' and Front Right 0°02'   ... how do those numbers look ?
Oh dear oh dear, toe is 0 degrees.10' plus or minus .05 and they should be able to get it cock on.
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Andy B on 22 July 2010, 22:54:14
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Hold down the ALT key, type 0176 on the number pad and release the ALT, which gives you  ° :y

You could just type 'o' highlight it & press 'superscript'  ;)
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted or not as it turns out ....results
Post by: Liam on 22 July 2010, 23:18:46
Dont know if I could sleep at night using superscript o's as degree symbols :). Let me see...

° o

Ewwww!
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted or not as it turns out ....results
Post by: Entwood on 22 July 2010, 23:20:43
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Dont know if I could sleep at night using superscript o's as degree symbols :). Let me see...

° o

Ewwww!

Its a hard choice ... 0°  or 0o


decisions decisions ...  :)
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: wheels-inmotion on 23 July 2010, 09:10:11
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Tell them you want it setting to -1deg 10 and not 'in the green'

They will also need to re-set the tracking at the front to

I did mention that figure on the phone ... he said after checking Auto Data or something other than the data they used at the time that they did make a mistake and that it can be adjusted .... so does it need wieght in the car at the time or just adjust to -1°10' as it stands ?  :y

If you are setting it to -1d 10', you don't need weight.
Title: Re: Camber Adjusted .... the results
Post by: Shrek on 23 July 2010, 09:35:04
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Tell them you want it setting to -1deg 10 and not 'in the green'

They will also need to re-set the tracking at the front to

I did mention that figure on the phone ... he said after checking Auto Data or something other than the data they used at the time that they did make a mistake and that it can be adjusted .... so does it need wieght in the car at the time or just adjust to -1°10' as it stands ?  :y

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If you are setting it to -1d 10', you don't need weight
Thank you .... thats good to know  :y.
I'll ask them to set it to -1°10'   :y :y
Why cant i live near WIM  ;)