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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 January 2008, 15:57:17
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Tunnie popped up to collect some followers today so gave his project car the once over for him
1) Got the multirams working, front vac solenoid was broken so repaired it, vac pipes were wrongly connected to the vac tank and generaly all over the place.
2) Main vac feed for the multirams and air injection was not connected to the brake servo pipe.
3) Connector not on in the ECU box resulting in the air injection not working and a code being flagged as a result.
4) Quick once over with Tech2.
The noise is definately one follower on the 2-4-6 bank but, when changing it the oil ways should be checked as well (remove the T vents and check them to).
Its got an oil leak.....left its mark on my drive :o
Its had an engine change and its not been done to well, all sorts of plumbing and wires all over the shop some of which we managed to sort.
The LPG wiring needs tidying up.
Other than that its not to bad, wants a good clean.
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I thought Fin change the engine in this elite
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I thought Fin change the engine in this elite
Yes he did....he also changed the gearbox.....
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Its had an engine change and its not been done to well,
You dont mean Fin Do You ;D
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cheers for giving a look over!
Sorry about the oil leak :-[ :-[ - Did not realise it had one or i would have left in on the road, is a big stain? :-[ :-[
Thanks for getting the multi-rams working, much more pickup load down now! :)
Trouble is its still only getting 18mpg on gas :( - I cruised about 80 all the way few bits at 90.... but not exactly a heavy foot and this was all motorway miles.... so 36mpg effective is not that great, my 2.2 can do that
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cheers for giving a look over!
Sorry about the oil leak :-[ :-[ - Did not realise it had one or i would have left in on the road, is a big stain? :-[ :-[
Thanks for getting the multi-rams working, much more pickup load down now! :)
Trouble is its still only getting 18mpg on gas :( - I cruised about 80 all the way few bits at 90.... but not exactly a heavy foot and this was all motorway miles.... so 36mpg effective is not that great, my 2.2 can do that
You're paying the wrong price.
you shold be able to get around 36p-38p
Look up all your local bottled gas suppliers including building supplies (Carvers in Wolverhampton is extremely cheap)
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cheers for giving a look over!
Sorry about the oil leak :-[ :-[ - Did not realise it had one or i would have left in on the road, is a big stain? :-[ :-[
Thanks for getting the multi-rams working, much more pickup load down now! :)
Trouble is its still only getting 18mpg on gas :( - I cruised about 80 all the way few bits at 90.... but not exactly a heavy foot and this was all motorway miles.... so 36mpg effective is not that great, my 2.2 can do that
I suspect the knackered stat is affecting consumption due to it running on cold start cycle all the time.
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Nice one Mark
Tunnie and I will have a gander at the other issues when we meet up :)
I agree it was just a general mess in there - but you should have seen the LPG plumbing before we had a go at it!!!
Did you like my coolant pipe bodges when we rerouted the feed to the evap? Those bolts ARE only a temp measure, and Tunnie WILL get the correct replacement hoses ;D
(At least the evaporator gets hot now!)
Tunnie - I only get around 20mpg on gas with an SGI system at those speeds, and that's in a manual...
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cheers for giving a look over!
Sorry about the oil leak :-[ :-[ - Did not realise it had one or i would have left in on the road, is a big stain? :-[ :-[
Thanks for getting the multi-rams working, much more pickup load down now! :)
Trouble is its still only getting 18mpg on gas :( - I cruised about 80 all the way few bits at 90.... but not exactly a heavy foot and this was all motorway miles.... so 36mpg effective is not that great, my 2.2 can do that
You're paying the wrong price.
you shold be able to get around 36p-38p
Look up all your local bottled gas suppliers including building supplies (Carvers in Wolverhampton is extremely cheap)
Its not staying long, any luck 3 weeks its gone.
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Nice one Mark
Tunnie and I will have a gander at the other issues when we meet up :)
I agree it was just a general mess in there - but you should have seen the LPG plumbing before we had a go at it!!!
Did you like my coolant pipe bodges when we rerouted the feed to the evap? Those bolts ARE only a temp measure, and Tunnie WILL get the correct replacement hoses ;D
(At least the evaporator gets hot now!)
Tunnie - I only get around 20mpg on gas with an SGI system at those speeds, and that's in a manual...
Its the wiring!
Took the lid off the ecu box and nearly fell over, bare connections, bits of insulating tape.
It needs tidying up realy and some heatshrink to finish it off.
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Nice one Mark
Tunnie and I will have a gander at the other issues when we meet up :)
I agree it was just a general mess in there - but you should have seen the LPG plumbing before we had a go at it!!!
Did you like my coolant pipe bodges when we rerouted the feed to the evap? Those bolts ARE only a temp measure, and Tunnie WILL get the correct replacement hoses ;D
(At least the evaporator gets hot now!)
Tunnie - I only get around 20mpg on gas with an SGI system at those speeds, and that's in a manual...
Its the wiring!
Took the lid off the ecu box and nearly fell over, bare connections, bits of insulating tape.
It needs tidying up realy and some heatshrink to finish it off.
Markie and I also noticed the mess in there. We'll look at all those little niggles once the follwer is done, and then Tunnie can put it on fleabay for some poor unsuspecting mug.... ;D
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out of sight of of mind ;)
It works! I was always taught a very important rule... if its working, don't fix it! ;)
James - If yours getting 20mpg at motorway speeds on gas, then my 18 does sound right for a mixer.....
BUT if that is the case.... i might as well run my 2.2 as that would get 35 on a run, more like 30 if speeds where 90 though, but still thats on 6mpg better.
Got the lifters so going to make start on that next weekend, my only problem is i don't have a vice.
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Its got an oil leak.....left its mark on my drive :o
Don't all Fin's (ex) cars? ;D
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Tunnie, I have a small vice you can borrow, but no soft jaws for it, so you'll have to improvise.
I may not be about, as I'm secretly hoping to get my sump fixed asap, so as soon as the bits turn up and someone is free, I may be out for a day ;). Never got round to attaching vice to bench, so is 'portable' :-[
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You dont need soft jaws.....just a rag will do.
Couldnt talk to the MID with Tech2, managed to talk to the radio though.
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You dont need soft jaws.....just a rag will do.
Couldnt talk to the MID with Tech2, managed to talk to the radio though.
I think my Tech2 is knack'd :'(
My tractor had similar issue with MID, until I fixed all the faults it was complaining of. Wonder if poor error handling is knocking off diags?
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I did have trouble talking to the radio at first, took some wiggling in the diag socket to get it to work.
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I did have trouble talking to the radio at first, took some wiggling in the diag socket to get it to work.
Ah, phew, so poor connector then most likely. It was too cold last night to spend too much time out there ;)
Did you manage to talk to cruise or height control, as couldn't get these either. Need to check if all on same diag line.
Something not right with my Tech2. Next time I'm up, we may have to do a bit of part swapping to see if vehicle module thingie or the cable if thats OK?
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Someone told me that if a car's been cheapo'd it can open up the contacts in the socket (due to the pins being too big) and this can cause bad connections with a "real" Tech 2.
Kevin
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Someone told me that if a car's been cheapo'd it can open up the contacts in the socket (due to the pins being too big) and this can cause bad connections with a "real" Tech 2.
Kevin
It's even worse when people ram oversize paperclips in there ;D
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A minor rant here, so appologies in advance..............
Why can't someone design a Proper DC connector that will : give a good contact area, be self cleaning, be immune from damage thro cheap, Chinese connectors, have a proper strain relief, and last.
Laptop connectors are crap because the centre pin is smaller than the dia of the floating socket, so the area of contact is tiny, so crap for passing power. And its nearly impossible to solder a connector onto a PSU giving out 6A, the cable is to big to get into the housing. The old 1/4" is not bad, but suffers in that it needs a massive insertion force, and not suited to repeated use. The connector used for the OBD socket is prone to the contacts opening out, as above, and dear old GM provides the cigar lighter socket for powering auxiliary items. These are crap, they tend to break contact if you waggle them, and the plugs you buy are so cheap and crap that I don't like using them in case they fuse the car wiring.
Remember the old Radar/Military standard connectors, with individual gold flashed contacts, both the pin and socket were the correct dia, and wiped upon insertion. The housing was such that it locked into place, and could withstand a squaddie's standing on it without damage. OK, they cost about £50 each but.......
Ken
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2) Main vac feed for the multirams and air injection was not connected to the brake servo pipe.
Gack, I've got a horrible feeling that may be my fault. I remember it falling off when routing new coolant pipes, I must have forgot to pop it back on :-[
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Remember the old Radar/Military standard connectors, with individual gold flashed contacts, both the pin and socket were the correct dia, and wiped upon insertion. The housing was such that it locked into place, and could withstand a squaddie's standing on it without damage. OK, they cost about £50 each but.......
QED. There are plenty of connectors around that are very reliable (most automotive connectors perform very well considering the environment they're in) but consumer electronics can only afford to use cheap sh1t. >:(
Kevin
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Yes, your prob right, I just haven't come across many decent ones !. I had thought about fitting the car with a ring of decent power sockets for add-ons.
Remember the old BNC, used for video signals. There were 2 types, 50R with a big fat pin, and 75R with a thinner tapered pin. If you plugged a 50R plug into a 75R socket, you splayed the socket so it was no use for 75R plugs again. :'(
Ken
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Yes, your prob right, I just haven't come across many decent ones !. I had thought about fitting the car with a ring of decent power sockets for add-ons.
Remember the old BNC, used for video signals. There were 2 types, 50R with a big fat pin, and 75R with a thinner tapered pin. If you plugged a 50R plug into a 75R socket, you splayed the socket so it was no use for 75R plugs again. :'(
Ken
Having worked in a mixed video / RF environment that has caused a few moments of head scratching for me too. ::)
Kevin
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Yes, your prob right, I just haven't come across many decent ones !. I had thought about fitting the car with a ring of decent power sockets for add-ons.
Remember the old BNC, used for video signals. There were 2 types, 50R with a big fat pin, and 75R with a thinner tapered pin. If you plugged a 50R plug into a 75R socket, you splayed the socket so it was no use for 75R plugs again. :'(
Ken
BNC - a good way of separating video from audio.
Phono video are confusing, especially when mono sound kit is involved and the BNC kits audio is connected to video and mono
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It's when you pick up a 50m ohm BNC patch lead instead of a 75 and use it for Video that it gets interesting. Where's all that ringing coming from?
Phono connectors are not great for audio IMHO let alone anything else but they're cheap.
Kevin
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2) Main vac feed for the multirams and air injection was not connected to the brake servo pipe.
Gack, I've got a horrible feeling that may be my fault. I remember it falling off when routing new coolant pipes, I must have forgot to pop it back on :-[
no worries i should have spotted it!