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Title: Cambelt Party
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 08 January 2008, 02:38:03
I've read lots of posts recently indicating that there may be a cambelt party soon, so I thought I would start a thread so we can hopefully collect some specifics and a date / location?

We need:

1) A location. Somewhere big enough to park a few Omegas to be worked on simultaneously. Geographically somewhere that makes sense for most attendees - and any undercover working space is a definate plus point.

2) A date we all agree on. I would like to propose either:

Sat 19th Jan
Sun 20th Jan
Sat 9th Feb
Sun 10th Feb
Sat 23 Feb
Sun 24 Feb

3) A few cambelt "experts". I'm happy to class myself as one and can comptently change cambelts on any petrol models. I can also bring Markie who also knows his stuff.

4) A selection of locking kits. I have one, so does TB and Mark, and Kevin, so we should be OK on that score.

How about it? Thoughts please :)



Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: MikeDundee on 08 January 2008, 07:32:52
Sounds good to me, mine is due for a change now, hit the four year mark since last done :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: SP_3.2 on 08 January 2008, 09:32:01
That would be good with me as i need to do mine and it would be good to have people around that know what they are doing and also to meet every one. Can do any of the dates.  :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: tunnie on 08 January 2008, 09:34:35
let me check some dates with father tunnie.... they plan to be away one weekend in Jan/Feb time.

I will be happy to host again  :y

Double garage, so space to work on 2 cars in the dry. Lots of flood lights, Fit about 3/4 cars on the driveway, loads of on street parking, 'technically' its unlimited parking  ;)

Tech2 just up the road, if Jaime is away i am sure i could err 'borrow' it  :y

However i am no chef... so someone may need to take care of catering side of things.

My diff pinion seal does need doing....  ;)
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Craig_R on 08 January 2008, 09:40:14
Ooooo sounds like the video camera will be out again :)

And I need my Idler Arm Changing Ill be up for any of the dates put forward

Craig
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 January 2008, 09:42:27
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My diff pinion seal does need doing....  ;)

Not realy a job for a cambelt party....unless you want to do it!
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 January 2008, 09:43:22
It's a possibility I could use my parents place. They are going away in Feb  / March time IIRC. They have garage space for 3 cars and parking off the road for plenty more. Located between Reading and Newbury. I will ask the question.

I have a V6 cam belt kit as James said, and I'd be happy to contribute it and my limited experience with Omega cam belts to whatever takes place.

I'd also be happy to host one at home but parking is a bit of an issue.

Kevin
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: tunnie on 08 January 2008, 10:11:37
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My diff pinion seal does need doing....  ;)

Not realy a job for a cambelt party....unless you want to do it!

 :(

Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 10:17:32
I am trying to arrange a large, indoor area, with enough room for lots of cars. Its around 10 mins from my place.

Reality means we cant do more than possibly 9 cambelts (assuming 3 experts), and we would have to leave by a certain time.

I won't know if I can get the location for a while though.
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: tunnie on 08 January 2008, 10:38:16
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I am trying to arrange a large, indoor area, with enough room for lots of cars. Its around 10 mins from my place.

Reality means we cant do more than possibly 9 cambelts (assuming 3 experts), and we would have to leave by a certain time.

I won't know if I can get the location for a while though.

That could be an issue, it takes several weeks to get things in motion even when we have a specific date.
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 10:42:55
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I am trying to arrange a large, indoor area, with enough room for lots of cars. Its around 10 mins from my place.

Reality means we cant do more than possibly 9 cambelts (assuming 3 experts), and we would have to leave by a certain time.

I won't know if I can get the location for a while though.

That could be an issue, it takes several weeks to get things in motion even when we have a specific date.
Didn't last time - a few days for the Brackley one ;)
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 January 2008, 10:53:28
I can reveal that The Boy has arranged use of the ex Rover longbridge factory.

Loads of space but, the last person out needs to turn the lights off  ::)
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 January 2008, 11:07:27
Any K series engines still lying around? We could combine it with a head gasket changing tutorial ;D

.. actually...

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=9321

Seems 50% of the pictures are of places to sit around and drink tea. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 11:09:37
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Any K series engines still lying around?
Actually, joking aside, to use this venue, we may have to fix a starting issue on a K series  :-[

And, no, its not Longbridge - nothing would ever get done there (well, no work ever happened there in that last 40yrs)
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: tunnie on 08 January 2008, 11:13:18
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Any K series engines still lying around?
Actually, joking aside, to use this venue, we may have to fix a starting issue on a K series  :-[

And, no, its not Longbridge - nothing would ever get done there (well, no work ever happened there in that last 40yrs)

Can we regually get some space there?
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: MikeDundee on 08 January 2008, 11:29:51
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Any K series engines still lying around?
Actually, joking aside, to use this venue, we may have to fix a starting issue on a K series  :-[

And, no, its not Longbridge - nothing would ever get done there (well, no work ever happened there in that last 40yrs)

Can we regually get some space there?

Maybe regularly ;D
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Tab on 08 January 2008, 11:43:34
i'd be up for it as mine's due, has anyone spoken to timbuk?

maybe he might let us his new place, just a thought.
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Elite Pete on 08 January 2008, 12:13:19
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i'd be up for it as mine's due, has anyone spoken to timbuk?

maybe he might let us his new place, just a thought.

He's on his way over for a cuppa so I will run it past him. If its left until Feb there will be a 4 post ramp installed :)
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Tab on 08 January 2008, 12:21:00
ah right, like i said it's just a thought. i know it might be a bit too far to go for some people(not for me though :D)
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 12:35:09
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i'd be up for it as mine's due, has anyone spoken to timbuk?

maybe he might let us his new place, just a thought.

He's on his way over for a cuppa so I will run it past him. If its left until Feb there will be a 4 post ramp installed :)
That'll be handy, need to do atf in MV6, and if thrust washer fubar, a quick box off job!
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: VXL V6 on 08 January 2008, 12:38:11
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That'll be handy, need to do atf in MV6, and if thrust washer fubar, a quick box off job!

How quick is quick?  ;D

Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 12:42:26
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That'll be handy, need to do atf in MV6, and if thrust washer fubar, a quick box off job!

How quick is quick?  ;D

With a 4 post lift, and a hydraulic lift to lower/raise box, very quick :D
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: VXL V6 on 08 January 2008, 12:45:06
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That'll be handy, need to do atf in MV6, and if thrust washer fubar, a quick box off job!

How quick is quick?  ;D

With a 4 post lift, and a hydraulic lift to lower/raise box, very quick :D

True! Think Sassanach has got it down to an hour!
Easier to do the fluid change when you can stand underneath it as well!

Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Omegatoy on 08 January 2008, 12:52:36
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Any K series engines still lying around?
Actually, joking aside, to use this venue, we may have to fix a starting issue on a K series  :-[

And, no, its not Longbridge - nothing would ever get done there (well, no work ever happened there in that last 40yrs)

think i know where that will be, will warn you it gets bloody cold up there to so wrap up well, plenty of space agreed but yo do have to be off site when they say, and anyone tearing around will be escorted off and willl drag the rest of you away too so be careful!! there are camera everywhere!!!!
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Elite Pete on 08 January 2008, 14:46:56
Just spoken to Timbuk and he said its OK to use his place. There is room undercover for about 25 to 30 cars there and you can get the BBQ is as well. Its about 2 miles from juction 3 of the M54 :y

Feb would be better for him as hes still setting the place up.
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: STMO123 on 08 January 2008, 14:57:37
I would love to attend your lovely cambelt party, but my piece of sh*t doesn't need one for 85000 miles. ::)
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: MikeDundee on 08 January 2008, 15:00:13
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I would love to attend your lovely cambelt party, but my piece of sh*t doesn't need one for 85000 miles. ::)

That's downright ridiculous Steve :-/, sure you were'nt ripped off ;D
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Elite Pete on 08 January 2008, 15:00:22
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I would love to attend your lovely cambelt party, but my piece of sh*t doesn't need one for 85000 miles. ::)
The cambelt party is in February, you had better start off now ;D
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: STMO123 on 08 January 2008, 15:01:09
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I would love to attend your lovely cambelt party, but my piece of sh*t doesn't need one for 85000 miles. ::)
The cambelt party is in February, you had better start off now ;D


I like it ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 15:38:01
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Just spoken to Timbuk and he said its OK to use his place. There is room undercover for about 25 to 30 cars there and you can get the BBQ is as well. Its about 2 miles from juction 3 of the M54 :y

Feb would be better for him as hes still setting the place up.
That is probably the place to do it then :y....

Would that count as another 'nearly Wales' meet ;D
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Paul M on 08 January 2008, 16:19:58
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I would love to attend your lovely cambelt party, but my piece of sh*t doesn't need one for 85000 miles. ::)

Don't worry, being a VX there will soon be a spate of premature failures, after which the belt change interval will promptly be halved ::)
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 January 2008, 16:22:38
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I would love to attend your lovely cambelt party, but my piece of sh*t doesn't need one for 85000 miles. ::)

Don't worry, being a VX there will soon be a spate of premature failures, after which the belt change interval will promptly be halved ::)

Or Alfa, VAG, Honda.....etc etc
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 16:30:28
Anyone ever done a belt on a 1.9TDi Audi - I need to do one :(
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 January 2008, 16:33:34
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Anyone ever done a belt on a 1.9TDi Audi - I need to do one :(

Yes and never again....there bloody awful to do and need the engine supporting due to an engine mount needing to come off. Access is a bit of a git to.

My advice, dont touch it............if they can afford to buy run and own an Audi, they can afford for somebody with all the right kit to do the cambelt.
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 January 2008, 16:38:07
Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: tunnie on 08 January 2008, 16:39:58
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Just spoken to Timbuk and he said its OK to use his place. There is room undercover for about 25 to 30 cars there and you can get the BBQ is as well. Its about 2 miles from juction 3 of the M54 :y

Feb would be better for him as hes still setting the place up.

Sounds like the perfect place to do my diff pinion oil seal  :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 16:49:27
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Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
its a 96, and remember its the Audi (longetudinal engine, despite FWD) rather than other VAGs (transverse).

As its Mrs TheBoy's Dad's car, I have little say in whether I am doing it or not  :-X
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 January 2008, 16:57:55
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Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
its a 96, and remember its the Audi (longetudinal engine, despite FWD) rather than other VAGs (transverse).

As its Mrs TheBoy's Dad's car, I have little say in whether I am doing it or not  :-X

Still a bitch to do, access is not easy as there is little room at the front as the transverse setup realy eats into the space.

Seeeing as you have to do it it will take somebody good about 3+ hours and check the water pump to, some have plastic impellers which are troublesome.
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 17:04:17
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Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
its a 96, and remember its the Audi (longetudinal engine, despite FWD) rather than other VAGs (transverse).

As its Mrs TheBoy's Dad's car, I have little say in whether I am doing it or not  :-X

Still a bitch to do, access is not easy as there is little room at the front as the transverse setup realy eats into the space.

Seeeing as you have to do it it will take somebody good about 3+ hours and check the water pump to, some have plastic impellers which are troublesome.
Some docs say rad out, others say not.

Not looking forward to it, but at least he has a big garage, and a constant supply of tea and bacon rolls...
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Timbuk on 08 January 2008, 17:30:15
As EP says i'm quite happy to host, especially as i haven't seen a lot of you for a while, didn't realise how much of a ball ache all of this was going to be getting this up and running, delay after delay after delay, i've had the keys for two months now  and i'm still not officially in the unit yet. Next Monday is when i officially start although i will be there from Friday. The unit itself isn't the one i was originally going to have but i've gone for the space undercover at the end of the day and this place is er...... big. Still got no leccy at the min so i will be running off a generator for now but hopefully the power should be on in a couple of weeks. Only down side is there will be no ramp as its not being delivered until March, finding a ramp is easy, getting it transported and installed at a reasonable cost is not so easy, and as i've located one in Telford i've just got to wait until i can have it :'(
Any weekend from  the middle of Feb is fine, i'll leave it up to you lot to sort it out, but as i've said, the unit is now there to be used and your all welcome to use it. 20 mins from Birmingham so quite easy to get to, obviously depending on where you are
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Timbuk on 08 January 2008, 17:58:52
TB has just asked me a couple of questions via PM which i thought would be best answered on here so everyone can see.

The unit will hold about 25-30 cars at a guess but without me loading it up it is difficult to tell. Realistically i would think we would be able to work on 15 cars with plenty of room, the yard outside is just as big so there is no problem with overflow or cars waiting but i don't really see space being an issue. If it rains a barbecue can be lit inside as the unit is very tall and plenty big enough. It has an upstairs for storage which would be a great place for taking pics.
I'm sure EP will tell me if i'm wrong as he has seen it im sure he will agree with me that there is more room than we will ever need
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: MikeDundee on 08 January 2008, 18:13:15
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TB has just asked me a couple of questions via PM which i thought would be best answered on here so everyone can see.

The unit will hold about 25-30 cars at a guess but without me loading it up it is difficult to tell. Realistically i would think we would be able to work on 15 cars with plenty of room, the yard outside is just as big so there is no problem with overflow or cars waiting but i don't really see space being an issue. If it rains a barbecue can be lit inside as the unit is very tall and plenty big enough. It has an upstairs for storage which would be a great place for taking pics.
I'm sure EP will tell me if i'm wrong as he has seen it im sure he will agree with me that there is more room than we will ever need

Welcome back Doug, nice here everything is almost there, any beds in the unit, just in case I fall asleep ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Entwood on 08 January 2008, 18:16:53
Looking at the poll I won't be able to make this .. but can I say what a great offer I think Timbuk has made... nice one  :y

Good luck with the new venture
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 January 2008, 18:27:52
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Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
its a 96, and remember its the Audi (longetudinal engine, despite FWD) rather than other VAGs (transverse).

As its Mrs TheBoy's Dad's car, I have little say in whether I am doing it or not  :-X


longitudanal and FWD - how weird
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 18:31:00
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Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
its a 96, and remember its the Audi (longetudinal engine, despite FWD) rather than other VAGs (transverse).

As its Mrs TheBoy's Dad's car, I have little say in whether I am doing it or not  :-X


longitudanal and FWD - how weird
Its an Audi thing...  ...like mounting the longitudinal too far forward to bugger up handling (and make access difficult to front)
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 January 2008, 18:33:40
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Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
its a 96, and remember its the Audi (longetudinal engine, despite FWD) rather than other VAGs (transverse).

As its Mrs TheBoy's Dad's car, I have little say in whether I am doing it or not  :-X


longitudanal and FWD - how weird
Its an Audi thing...  ...like mounting the longitudinal too far forward to bugger up handling (and make access difficult to front)


SOunds like the engine should be pushed back then connected to the correct wheels!
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2008, 18:34:39
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Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
its a 96, and remember its the Audi (longetudinal engine, despite FWD) rather than other VAGs (transverse).

As its Mrs TheBoy's Dad's car, I have little say in whether I am doing it or not  :-X


longitudanal and FWD - how weird
Its an Audi thing...  ...like mounting the longitudinal too far forward to bugger up handling (and make access difficult to front)


SOunds like the engine should be pushed back then connected to the correct wheels!
Makes it easy to do the right thing - Quatro it...
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Golfbuddy on 08 January 2008, 18:38:16
Great to hear from you again Doug. Have you decided on a name for the business yet?  :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Timbuk on 08 January 2008, 19:06:04
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Great to hear from you again Doug. Have you decided on a name for the business yet?  :y

To cut a long story short it is called Telford MotorPort
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 January 2008, 22:08:02
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Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
its a 96, and remember its the Audi (longetudinal engine, despite FWD) rather than other VAGs (transverse).

As its Mrs TheBoy's Dad's car, I have little say in whether I am doing it or not  :-X


longitudanal and FWD - how weird
Its an Audi thing...  ...like mounting the longitudinal too far forward to bugger up handling (and make access difficult to front)


SOunds like the engine should be pushed back then connected to the correct wheels!
Makes it easy to do the right thing - Quatro it...

THey all should be!
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Matchless on 08 January 2008, 22:30:27
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Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
its a 96, and remember its the Audi (longetudinal engine, despite FWD) rather than other VAGs (transverse).

As its Mrs TheBoy's Dad's car, I have little say in whether I am doing it or not  :-X


longitudanal and FWD - how weird
Its an Audi thing...  ...like mounting the longitudinal too far forward to bugger up handling (and make access difficult to front)

Renault used to use the same arrangement with the box ahead of the engine on small cars and behind on larger ones.
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Matchless on 08 January 2008, 22:32:30
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My diff pinion seal does need doing....  ;)

Not realy a job for a cambelt party....unless you want to do it!

Cant see Tunnie being able to undo the pinion nut, unless someone else gets hold of his legs and pulls.   ;D
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 January 2008, 22:38:43
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Should have also added, idealy you need VAG Com or similar to reset the commencement of timing value in the ECU.

What year is it?
its a 96, and remember its the Audi (longetudinal engine, despite FWD) rather than other VAGs (transverse).

As its Mrs TheBoy's Dad's car, I have little say in whether I am doing it or not  :-X


longitudanal and FWD - how weird
Its an Audi thing...  ...like mounting the longitudinal too far forward to bugger up handling (and make access difficult to front)

Renault used to use the same arrangement with the box ahead of the engine on small cars and behind on larger ones.


I have seen that
Title: Re: Cambelt Party
Post by: Tab on 08 January 2008, 22:58:38
welcome back doug :y