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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Boiler Man on 22 November 2006, 23:46:51
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Hi Guys
I mentioned this in passing, on another thread, but no one picked up on it.
So could anyone help? I have just bought a CDX 03 Facelift and just finding my way around everything.
My old motor is a GLS Pre-facelift and it had variable intermitant wiper control, that I found invaluable.
I was suprised to find no speed adjuster on the facelift.
I know some higher models have the rain sensors and that they were an optional extra on others.
But is is correct that my CDX dosn't have variable wipe? :'(
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Should do... mine does.
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Strange but true...
My 2001 CDX has this wiper control:
(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/861/oldhx1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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...but the 2002 manual has this:
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5500/newmk6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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...so it seems that this feature died with the 2001 model....
on the plus side you do not have the annoying gota-take-the-key-out-of-the-ignition-to-open-the-boot feature...
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Your has the rain sensors?
If so how do you know and how can I tell if mine does?
I checked mine tonight in Rainy Manchester and counted between wipes ( how sad am I ) ::) and it didnt alter no matter how hard or light it rained. It was about 8 sec's between wipes. :-/
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Donnow, don't have rain sensors... :(
Wait for a dry day, then pour a bucket of water on the windscreen and see if the wipers wake up???? :o
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Sorry M8, dont know if it's me or a spell mistake.
But just to clarify.
You do not think you have rain sensors? Now you have read the book? :-/
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Mine is a 2001 CDX, I definitely have no rain sensors, and I think they were not even available back in 2001, but only from 2002. My wiper control looks like the one in the top pic, with the round dial to control the delay speed.
The post from the Omega owner's manual is from a 2002 owner's manual, NOT from my own car's manual. Anyway my wiper control does NOT look like the one in the picture from the user's manual.
Hope this is clear....
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Ahhhh
Sorry a bit slow, so yours has the manually variable adjuster the same as my old GLS. They are great.
So have we found a new upgrade for the later Facelift owners? and does anyone know how it can be done?
If it can be done? [smiley=sad.gif]
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...you mean downgrade...? or perhaps we should call it backgrade? ;D
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Don't know which, :-/
Either would be nice. At the moment, I have a nice CDX but with niether, manually adjustable or automatic ajustable intermitant wipe.
Think I'll go back to my old GLS :-/ At least i'll know were I'm going when we get fair weather drizzle in Madchester.
Our am I missing something?
Do you think the dealer will have the CDX back :-/ ;D
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My 2003 CD doesnt have the variable intermittent wipers either nor does it have rain sensitive wipers.
I think on the later facelifts it was taken off because rain sensitive wipers were an option.
In another thread a while ago it was suggested that changing the stalk and relay would do the job if you wanted variable intermittant wipers.
However Mark spent time looking at this and suggested that as both his omegas both have the same relay just the wiper stalk may do the job.
Im trying to find a stalk to try it on mine........but trying to find one with a rear wiper switch on it as well.....is proving hard :(
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Don't know which, :-/
Either would be nice. At the moment, I have a nice CDX but with niether, manually adjustable or automatic ajustable intermitant wipe.
Think I'll go back to my old GLS :-/ At least i'll know were I'm going when we get fair weather drizzle in Madchester.
Our am I missing something?
Do you think the dealer will have the CDX back :-/ ;D
No worries, I'll swap cars with you, mine has the wiper stalk you want ;D
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I believe the CDX from 2002 on did have rain sensors. It is up behind mirror, and fairly obvious...
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Its an easy upgrade and has been covered before.....just fit stalk with the dial and change the relay under the bonnet.
Note, my facelift Cdx has the dial......
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Its an easy upgrade and has been covered before.....just fit stalk with the dial and change the relay under the bonnet.
Note, my facelift Cdx has the dial......
Yours is a fairly early facelift isn't it? I think the rain sensors came in right towards end of production
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2000 model year, rain sensitive wipers came in on 2003 model year but, they discontinued the variable ones before this...
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Mine has the adjuster, and Dave phone AutoVaux
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I've checked behind the mirror, nothing obvious from either inside or outside, that looks like rain sensor. :(
Check sales lit' for 2003. (mine is a march 03) and it mentions rain sensor pack on Elites only. :(
Could it be that the CDX estate stalk cant take everything, as mentioned previously the estate also has rear wipe on it.
But then if that was the case, you would think it more likely to have rain sensors?
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Maybe you should do a poll and see who's got what on which year car in terms of intermittent control, rain sensors etc. May help identify if it's "normal" not to have it.
I must admit that - if I've read all this correctly - I'm very surprised that some later CDX's have no method a varying the speed of the intermittent wipe. It's almost unheard of on bigger cars these days.
I can confirm that my facelift 2001 CD has the dial control on the stalk. Probably doesn't help though! [smiley=smiley.gif]
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Maybe you should do a poll and see who's got what on which year car in terms of intermittent control, rain sensors etc. May help identify if it's "normal" not to have it.
I must admit that - if I've read all this correctly - I'm very surprised that some later CDX's have no method a varying the speed of the intermittent wipe. It's almost unheard of on bigger cars these days.
I can confirm that my facelift 2001 CD has the dial control on the stalk. Probably doesn't help though! [smiley=smiley.gif]
My 2002 CD doesn't....
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Maybe you should do a poll and see who's got what on which year car in terms of intermittent control, rain sensors etc. May help identify if it's "normal" not to have it.
I must admit that - if I've read all this correctly - I'm very surprised that some later CDX's have no method a varying the speed of the intermittent wipe. It's almost unheard of on bigger cars these days.
I can confirm that my facelift 2001 CD has the dial control on the stalk. Probably doesn't help though! [smiley=smiley.gif]
My 2002 CD doesn't....
Don't Acme do a conversion then? ;D
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So did someone say there was a post on how to convert a plain intermitant wipe into a variable or rain sensor version?
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Maybe you should do a poll and see who's got what on which year car in terms of intermittent control, rain sensors etc. May help identify if it's "normal" not to have it.
I must admit that - if I've read all this correctly - I'm very surprised that some later CDX's have no method a varying the speed of the intermittent wipe. It's almost unheard of on bigger cars these days.
I can confirm that my facelift 2001 CD has the dial control on the stalk. Probably doesn't help though! [smiley=smiley.gif]
My 2002 CD doesn't....
Don't Acme do a conversion then? ;D
Of course they do, but like most Acme products, they don't fullfil their promise.......
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So did someone say there was a post on how to convert a plain intermitant wipe into a variable or rain sensor version?
Ummm well no....but its as easy as just changing the stalk for a variable intermittant wipe.....if it doesnt work then more than likely you will have to change the relay in engine compartment as well.
Dunno about rain sensitve option tho :(
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Should I start a topic in the help or ICE section, asking for the way to convert? Surpose I should have posted there first.
But thought it was an easy question to be answered.
I dont now how to start a poll :-[
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Its funny, this should happen today but, I wanted variable delay wipers, so recently bought a vectra wiper stalk, and it arrived today. It is fairly up to date, as it has the Set/reset buttons. After taking out all the screws and silly plastic bits, I discovered that the original wiper stalk has an extra 4 pin connector (3 used), whereas the Vectra replacement needs a 6 pin(5 used). There is no sign of an extra connector in the dash well, so I guess that mine (2.2CD auto) can't do variable delay wipe. A bit strange since one of my wife's older cars, a metro HLE, had variable wipe. Strange how some manufacturers put difference emphasis on which bits to fit , or leave out. The Auction said suitable for some Omega's so may fit some other models, but I have no idea which.
Cheers Ken 8-)
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Dunno about rain sensitve option tho :(
As everyone was talking about variable wipers vs rain sesitive I thought about my wife's 52 Astra. That doesn't have variable intermittant either so I wondered if the kit could be fitted to her car so a call was made to Vx to enquire about the price.
At [size=36]£135!![/size] + vat :o :o :o :o :o
I won't be bothering
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There is already a post on this in the ice section.
No extra wires are required.......the intermittent feed (which is already there) simply has a variable resistor in series with is that connects to the delay dial (hence no more wires required).
I have confirmed this on the schematics.....it realy is a case of fitting (the correct) wiper stalk and possibly the relay (check the post in the ICE section as there is a part number and relay location in there)
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mine's a 2001 Y elite, it has variable speed intermittent wiper, i think mine's one of the last 2001 3.0s before 3.2 came along, so could it have been the 2001 onward elite 2.6 and 3.2 (and 2.2 DTi) that got rain sensor wipers?
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Mine is a late 01 3.2 elite and it has the plain wipers. Had the intermitance ones on my old 3.0 elite?. :'(
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my 00 2.5 Elite has the variable intermittant wipers......
Rain sensing convertion, now that would be interesting
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Rain sensing convertion, now that would be interesting
You'd never get the bluudy things to turn off in this country ;D
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I have the normal wiper stalk....intermittant then normal wiper modes.....but on the same stalk i have my buttons on the end for the trip computor.
No rain sensors
The car is a 2003 (August) CDX 2.6 V6.
If i was to change my stalk i would need one with the buttons on the end for the comp.
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Strange but true...
My 2001 CDX has this wiper control:
(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/861/oldhx1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Where are the buttons for the trip computor etc :question :question :question
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I have the normal wiper stalk....intermittant then normal wiper modes.....but on the same stalk i have my buttons on the end for the trip computor.
No rain sensors
The car is a 2003 (August) CDX 2.6 V6.
If i was to change my stalk i would need one with the buttons on the end for the comp.
My 2001 CDX is exactly the same as yours