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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Auto Addict on 27 November 2006, 14:57:50
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After a trip to The Boy, and cleaning up the contacts the fault appeard to go away.....but
Just popped down to the Post Office and the air bag light is back on.
Anyone had similar problems?
Is it the sensor?
All help appreciated.
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After a trip to The Boy, and cleaning up the contacts the fault appeard to go away.....but
Just popped down to the Post Office and the air bag light is back on.
Anyone had similar problems?
Is it the sensor?
All help appreciated.
The error was 71 - error in comms with drivers side sensor.
Cleaned the seat connector (always worth doing), the sensor plug itself, and the main door connector. Cleared codes.
Any other ideas are welcomed.
My view is to swap drivers and passenger sensors over (if they are interchangable) and see if fault moves to passenger side, or stays with drivers side.
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I am sh*t scared of playing with airbags and sensors(unless done remotely). I have had one go off in my face and its not nice
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I am sh*t scared of playing with airbags and sensors(unless done remotely). I have had one go off in my face and its not nice
Thats precisely why I sit in back seat when using cheapo tech2 lead ;)
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After a trip to The Boy, and cleaning up the contacts the fault appeard to go away.....but
Just popped down to the Post Office and the air bag light is back on.
Anyone had similar problems?
Is it the sensor?
All help appreciated.
The error was 71 - error in comms with drivers side sensor.
Is that the side impact sensor? If so be a buggar to swap about coz they are rivited in and probably not swappable , but i guess to test your theory you could drill em out swap em over but just let em dangle if the holes dont align up :-/
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After a trip to The Boy, and cleaning up the contacts the fault appeard to go away.....but
Just popped down to the Post Office and the air bag light is back on.
Anyone had similar problems?
Is it the sensor?
All help appreciated.
The error was 71 - error in comms with drivers side sensor.
Is that the side impact sensor? If so be a buggar to swap about coz they are rivited in and probably not swappable , but i guess to test your theory you could drill em out swap em over but just let em dangle if the holes dont align up :-/
looks like drivers side one was bolted. dealer already changed this a year or so ago, but we know how dealers lie...
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After a trip to The Boy, and cleaning up the contacts the fault appeard to go away.....but
Just popped down to the Post Office and the air bag light is back on.
Anyone had similar problems?
Is it the sensor?
All help appreciated.
The error was 71 - error in comms with drivers side sensor.
Is that the side impact sensor? If so be a buggar to swap about coz they are rivited in and probably not swappable , but i guess to test your theory you could drill em out swap em over but just let em dangle if the holes dont align up :-/
looks like drivers side one was bolted. dealer already changed this a year or so ago, but we know how dealers lie...
Yes i do >:( but if its bolted in then dealer probably has changed it.....think you might find passenger side is rivited if it hasnt been changed.....mine are....and as AA's is a facelift too would assume the same on his.
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Well, I've bought a new door sensor, hope to fit it on Friday.
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Well, I've bought a new door sensor, hope to fit it on Friday.
Bloody Hell, how much was that :o
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Well, I've bought a new door sensor, hope to fit it on Friday.
Is this the same door that had the rust repair done on it by the Vx dealer...?
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Well, I've bought a new door sensor, hope to fit it on Friday.
Bloody Hell, how much was that :o
£44.75 but I said how about a trade discount, and she had a word with the parts manager, gave it to me for £37.50.
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Well, I've bought a new door sensor, hope to fit it on Friday.
Is this the same door that had the rust repair done on it by the Vx dealer...?
Yes....
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Well, I've bought a new door sensor, hope to fit it on Friday.
Is this the same door that had the rust repair done on it by the Vx dealer...?
Yes....
Hmmm... do you believe in coincidences, AA...?
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I smell something......its pig, no, its horse......oh yes, I know....its bull shit....sounds fishy to me....
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The original air bag sensor (drivers door) was replaced under warranty.
When TheBoy and I took off the door card there was signs of previous activity as the inner skin was ripped around the air bag sensor.
TheBoy cleaned up the contacts and the air bag light seemed to reset.
Drove all the way back to Brum, no probs.
Went out later to the local post office, no probs.
Came out of the post office and started driving home and at about half way, the air bag light came on again.
Agreed, this was the door that was rust treated by the dealer, but that must be around 3/4 months ago.
He told me he didn't have to remove the door card.
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Sounds more like wiring to me.....would need to be buzzed out.
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Sounds more like wiring to me.....would need to be buzzed out.
Yes, I fear that.....
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Sounds more like wiring to me.....would need to be buzzed out.
Mark, where would I start, I haven't got a clue.
Will it fail the MOT with the air bag light on, it's due for it's MOT in a months time?
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Field Remedy: 1251
Subject: Side airbag - Control lamp illuminates, TC 71/81.
Models: Engines: Option:
Vectra-B 97...,Omega-B 98...,Astra-G 98... All,All,All
Complaint: Illumination of airbag system warning light and troublecode 71 and /or 81 is stored.
Cause: Software problem at sensor of side airbag.
Production: Installation of a new side airbag sensor: Astra-G from VIN X2165750 (Bochum), X5188912 (Antwerp), X6097543 (Eisenach) and X8072985 (Ellesmere Port). Vectra-B from VIN X1077469 (Rüsselsheim), X7028750 P/N 09136123 and X7031735 P/N 09136122 (Luton). Omega-B from VIN X1116775 (Rüsselsheim).
Remedy:
In case of complaint check troublecode with TECH 2. If troublecode
71 and/or 81 is stored, sensor of side airbag has to be replaced.
To replace the new sensor - see "Remove and install side airbag sensor" unit "C" of Service-Instruction.
Parts: Part-No.: Catalog-No:
Side airbag sensor driver side
Astra-G 3-doors 9133278 12 38 122
Astra-G 5-doors 9133280 12 38 124
Vectra-B 9136122 12 38 927
Omega-B 9173928 12 38 929
Side airbag sensor passenger side
Astra-G 3-doors 9133279 12 38 123
Astra-G 5-doors 9133281 12 38 926
Vectra-B 9136123 12 38 928
Omega-B 9173929 12 38 936
Labour Times: TC: Hours:
Astra-G
T8 125 10 Replace side airbag sensor 92 0.7 hrs
drive side (front door)
+:interior panel front door r+i,
fugitive memory programming,
readout trouble code
-:Replace water vapur barrier
T8 125 11 Replace side airbag sensor 92 0.7 hrs
passenger side (front door)
+:interior panel front door r+i,
fugitive memory programming,
readout trouble code
-:Replace water vapur barrier
T8 125 12 Replace side airbag sensor 92 1.2 hrs
both front doors
+:interior panel front door r+i,
fugitive memory programming,
readout trouble code
-:Replace water vapur barrier
Vectra-B
T8 125 13 Replace side airbag sensor 92 0.6 hrs
drive side (front door)
+:interior panel front door r+i,
fugitive memory programming,
readout trouble code
-:Replace water vapur barrier
T8 125 14 Replace side airbag sensor 92 0.6 hrs
passenger side (front door)
+:interior panel front door r+i,
fugitive memory programming,
readout trouble code
-:Replace water vapur barrier
T8 125 15 Replace side airbag sensor 92 0.9 hrs
both front doors
+:interior panel front door r+i,
fugitive memory programming,
readout trouble code
-:Replace water vapur barrier
Omega-B
T8 125 16 Replace side airbag sensor 92 0.9 hrs
drive side (front door)
+:interior panel front door r+i,
fugitive memory programming,
readout trouble code
-:Replace water vapur barrier
T8 125 17 Replace side airbag sensor 92 0.9 hrs
passenger side (front door)
+:interior panel front door r+i,
fugitive memory programming,
readout trouble code
-:Replace water vapur barrier
T8 125 18 Replace side airbag sensor 92 1.6 hrs
both front doors
+:interior panel front door r+i,
fugitive memory programming,
readout trouble code
-:Replace water vapur barrier
The regular warranty procedure should be used for claiming Set-up-time.
FunctionalGroup: C - Equipment/Windows/Seats,N - Electrical Equipment
Complaint Group: 04 - Electrical failures,06 - Failure Code Setting by Control Unit
Trouble Code: 71,81
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Airbag ECU. Briefly looking in TIS, seems to be under centre armrest, just behind handbrake.
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Thanks TB :y
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Right - changed the air bag sensor in drivers door.
Tried every which way but can't get the centre console off.
Tried every which way but can't get the drivers kick panel off.
Fed up. :(
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To remove the kick panel.....pop the plastic covers off the side trims (they have vauxhall or omega or something written on them) to reveal some Torx screws.
Remove the torx screws so that you can lift the end of the trim up to reveal a screw which secures the bottom edge of the kick panel.
The panel can then be unclipped and removed....
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Thanks Mark, I'll have another go in a bit.
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Ran out of time on this as I had to go and pick up the grandchildren.
Anyway, I've replaced the door sensor and re-sealed the door skin.
See you tomorrow morning TB.
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Sounds more like wiring to me.....would need to be buzzed out.
Mark, where would I start, I haven't got a clue.
Will it fail the MOT with the air bag light on, it's due for it's MOT in a months time?
Hopefully changing the airbag sensor has fixed it AA :y
But if it doesnt :'( it ought to fail mot for airbag light on......so what you could do as a temp bodge to pass mot....is remove the clocks (even i can do that in 5 mins) and do a little rewiring job on the airbag light ;) needs a little skill with a soldering iron.....but quite easy :y
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Hope you got it sorted AA...
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Well it's a trip down to TB's in the morning to get it reset with his TechII, if all else fails we thought of wiring it up to the ABS light.
Will give a progress report sometime tomorrow.
Thanks for the well wishes.
Bloody electrics! >:(
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To remove the kick panel.....pop the plastic covers off the side trims (they have vauxhall or omega or something written on them) to reveal some Torx screws.
Remove the torx screws so that you can lift the end of the trim up to reveal a screw which secures the bottom edge of the kick panel.
The panel can then be unclipped and removed....
And another screw up near bonnet release lever on prefacelifts, presume facelift is the same?
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Just got back from TB's after having the Air Bag Light reset no that a new sensor is fitted.
TB reset the light, we took it for a drive round, switched on and off a few times , so far so good.
Stopped off at the motorway services on the way back for about 15 mins.
Started OK, no air bag light.
Arrived home OK still no air bag light.
Going to leave it for an hour and test it again.
Fingers crossed.
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Just got back from TB's after having the Air Bag Light reset no that a new sensor is fitted.
TB reset the light, we took it for a drive round, switched on and off a few times , so far so good.
Stopped off at the motorway services on the way back for about 15 mins.
Started OK, no air bag light.
Arrived home OK still no air bag light.
Going to leave it for an hour and test it again.
Fingers crossed.
I'm praying....
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Just been out in it again - still OK.
Thank's for your help Jaime :y
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Hope its fixed AA :y
Did you let TB see if he could your rear wheels spinning :D
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Hope its fixed AA :y
Did you let TB see if he could your rear wheels spinning :D
Moi ? ::)
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Good news :y
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Sounds more like wiring to me.....would need to be buzzed out.
Mark, where would I start, I haven't got a clue.
Will it fail the MOT with the air bag light on, it's due for it's MOT in a months time?
airbag system not currently part of the mot,they are only concerned with abs function :y
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Sounds more like wiring to me.....would need to be buzzed out.
Mark, where would I start, I haven't got a clue.
Will it fail the MOT with the air bag light on, it's due for it's MOT in a months time?
airbag system not currently part of the mot,they are only concerned with abs function :y
thanks, and only 4 years late :y
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oh no :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ didn't look at the age of the thread,my bad :P