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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: mutleyman on 01 November 2010, 20:44:21

Title: cambelt change tool
Post by: mutleyman on 01 November 2010, 20:44:21
help!! which locking tool  is best to use to lock crankshaft up. i got hold of the laser 3302 set but when i connected it up crankshaft timing mark and mark on oil sump housing they were not in line with each other.if i moved crank so that tool locked the marks were about 2 to 3 mm out.can you shim out the gap or can you put the belt on and tension it all up without using the locking tool. was looking  at the sealey vs130 but a bit pricey at £200
Title: Re: cambelt change tool
Post by: mrgreen on 01 November 2010, 22:57:05
well never done a belt on these but i can imagine if you're careful you shouldn't really need a locking tool.... i may be fully shot down for this but  i usually make marks where everything lies and line it all up on that afterwards but backyard mechanics may not apply here!!! ;D
Title: Re: cambelt change tool
Post by: tidla on 01 November 2010, 23:01:56
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thats what happened to last to suggest such a thing ;D
Title: Re: cambelt change tool
Post by: Broomies Mate on 01 November 2010, 23:04:07
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well never done a belt on these but i can imagine if you're careful you shouldn't really need a locking tool.... i may be fully shot down for this but  i usually make marks where everything lies and line it all up on that afterwards but backyard mechanics may not apply here!!! ;D

Unfortunately, it doesnt work.

The marks on the car are erroneous at best.

The locking kit should give you a better guide.  Buy the DVD from the OOF shop - It has all you need to do a belt change (provided you have a decent locking kit).
Title: Re: cambelt change tool
Post by: dbug on 01 November 2010, 23:04:44
Do not attempt cambelt change on a V6 without locking kit.  Other members have found the Laser kit to be inaccurate.  Best to sell it on on Ebay and look for a decent kit. ;)
Title: Re: cambelt change tool
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 01 November 2010, 23:05:36
I have read on here that the Lazer Locking Kit doesnt fit properly... not sure where it doesn't fit properly though as I have a Pickervant one.
Usually lock it to the Crank, turn the crank clockwise until the slide locks onto the water pump, job done Crank is locked in position :y
I suppose the marks your talking about could be slightly out like the ones at the top near the cams on the backing plate :)

Please don't try and do the timing without using the locking kit, no matter what people tell you :y
Title: Re: cambelt change tool
Post by: Welung666 on 02 November 2010, 06:15:58
Mutley, you are more than welcome to come up here and I'll help you with my kit :y
Title: Re: cambelt change tool
Post by: venom on 02 November 2010, 06:48:09
I've just bought this set http://www.ldemporium.co.uk/engine-timing-tool-kit-for-v6-gmsaab-p-1626.html
but haven't used it yet but Welung666 got the same set on Sat and has used it 3 times already so he must think its OK  :y
Title: Re: cambelt change tool
Post by: TheBoy on 02 November 2010, 08:52:17
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well never done a belt on these but i can imagine if you're careful you shouldn't really need a locking tool.... i may be fully shot down for this but  i usually make marks where everything lies and line it all up on that afterwards but backyard mechanics may not apply here!!! ;D
Sadly not. You can get away with just a locking wedge on many twin cam engines, and nothing on many single cam engines, but the GM quad cam V6 definately needs a locking/timing kit. You cannot get the cam timing correct without, as it has infinate adjustment on it.