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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Malcolm_D on 01 November 2010, 20:47:20

Title: Paper Oil Filter on V6
Post by: Malcolm_D on 01 November 2010, 20:47:20
I understand that the old style metal cannister filter was replaced with a paper filter fitted into a metal housing. Having also read suggestions that the old style filter can be retro fitted in place of the modern housing what are the benefits of both and what is the general consensus?  :-/
Title: Re: Paper Oil Filter on V6
Post by: jonnycool on 01 November 2010, 20:50:35
A lot of mechanics that don't know any better (despite the torque setting being printed on the housing) overtighten the housing and it takes somebody built like Geoff Capes to get it off again, usually damaging it in the process.

The more conventional ones seem to be easier to deal with  ;D

Edit: You're on about something different aren't you? Apologies  :-[
Title: Re: Paper Oil Filter on V6
Post by: Broomies Mate on 01 November 2010, 21:08:39
The paper filter does a 'better' job in fairness.

As mentioned above, if the cap on the housing is overtightened, it is impossible to remove it without causing damage.  Very common problem as it only needs nipping up, and most 'mechanics' in these Kwik-Fit type service centers see a bolt as a "How strong am I?" type exercise.

In short, whichever one you have or choose to have, it will be fine!  :y
Title: Re: Paper Oil Filter on V6
Post by: Malcolm_D on 01 November 2010, 21:14:19
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A lot of mechanics that don't know any better (despite the torque setting being printed on the housing) overtighten the housing and it takes somebody built like Geoff Capes to get it off again, usually damaging it in the process.

The more conventional ones seem to be easier to deal with  ;D

Edit: You're on about something different aren't you? Apologies  :-[

Nope, you got it right. I will check to see if the housing has been overtightened but knowing the guy who owned the car before me I doubt it.  :y
Title: Re: Paper Oil Filter on V6
Post by: tidla on 01 November 2010, 21:16:53
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The paper filter does a 'better' job in fairness.

As mentioned above, if the cap on the housing is overtightened, it is impossible to remove it without causing damage.  Very common problem as it only needs nipping up, and most 'mechanics' in these Kwik-Fit type service centers see a bolt as a "How strong am I?" type exercise.

In short, whichever one you have or choose to have, it will be fine!  :y

there is a myth that the "cap" holds the big ends together..

 :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Paper Oil Filter on V6
Post by: Broomies Mate on 01 November 2010, 21:28:23
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The paper filter does a 'better' job in fairness.

As mentioned above, if the cap on the housing is overtightened, it is impossible to remove it without causing damage.  Very common problem as it only needs nipping up, and most 'mechanics' in these Kwik-Fit type service centers see a bolt as a "How strong am I?" type exercise.

In short, whichever one you have or choose to have, it will be fine!  :y

there is a myth that the "cap" holds the big ends together..

 :D :D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

I was pleasantly surprised the weekend before last when I did a oil and filter change.  Especially considering I was the one who did the service 3 months ago!  ;D
Title: Re: Paper Oil Filter on V6
Post by: shyboy on 02 November 2010, 09:24:22
Even DLK had to give up on trying to change my paper filter when he was doing my cambelt as the can was seized solid. So, no filter change when the oil was changed. :'(
There is a guide somewhere giving part nos. etc. for the mod. but I can't find it. Will change mine over to spin on type when I get a minute. 
Title: Re: Paper Oil Filter on V6
Post by: aaronjb on 02 November 2010, 10:19:39
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Even DLK had to give up on trying to change my paper filter when he was doing my cambelt as the can was seized solid. So, no filter change when the oil was changed. :'(
There is a guide somewhere giving part nos. etc. for the mod. but I can't find it. Will change mine over to spin on type when I get a minute. 

It's here: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1204142232
Title: Re: Paper Oil Filter on V6
Post by: TheBoy on 02 November 2010, 15:14:41
Nothing inherently wrong with either type, if fitted with some element of common sense (actually, just following the instructions is enough)
Title: Re: Paper Oil Filter on V6
Post by: VR4Dave on 02 November 2010, 15:33:17
I changed mine to the metal spin on type using this guide a few weeks ago and it's a doddle, and enjoyable when it's time for next oil change  ;D