Omega Owners Forum

Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: pembsomega on 15 April 2010, 18:54:32

Title: recommend tyres?
Post by: pembsomega on 15 April 2010, 18:54:32
Is there a particular tyre that you'd recommend for an omega? I know with other cars ive had putting the right tyres on has made a huge difference??? what do you guys run?? :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 April 2010, 18:59:56
not in a special order but all of these I can recommend (first group not cheap though);

potenza adrenaline (bridgestone) (I'm using)
continental sporticontact 3
good year eagle f1

a bit cheaper but still I can advice
micheline primacy hp
goodyear efficient grip
bridgestone turanza

economic
toyo proxes
kumho ku31

and as an experince tires are a subject that what you pay is what you get.. not a very good tire for cheapo prices.. :-/

I didnt include micheline ps2 as its extremely expensive ..
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Zuffenhausen on 15 April 2010, 19:07:46
Falken ZE912 is my recommendation. We are on our second set, good all round performance and reasonable wear rate.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: pembsomega on 15 April 2010, 19:08:49
Quote


economic
toyo proxes


.


really? how much is expensive then? toyo proxes t1r's are the boys for an impreza and are what i'd call quite expensive

i know 225 50 r17 t1r's are around £130 each but were by far the best tyre ive had on an impreza (and there has been alot)
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: TheBoy on 15 April 2010, 19:11:53
It seems to be such a personal thing.

Personally, I like the Dunlop SP9000s and the Conti SC2s (both obsolete now), and hate the Michelins with a passion.

But then I demand a certain level of grip from my tyres, and prepared to compromise slightly (but not massively) on durability.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 April 2010, 19:16:27
Quote
Quote


economic
toyo proxes


.


really? how much is expensive then? toyo proxes t1r's are the boys for an impreza and are what i'd call quite expensive

i know 225 50 r17 t1r's are around £130 each but were by far the best tyre ive had on an impreza (and there has been alot)

here, they are nearly half price the potenzas and conti's..
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 15 April 2010, 19:18:38
For many years I have used Avon's on all my big Vauxhall's, and have no reason not to recommend them due to their great performance and reliability :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: pembsomega on 15 April 2010, 19:18:50
Quote
Quote
Quote


economic
toyo proxes


.


really? how much is expensive then? toyo proxes t1r's are the boys for an impreza and are what i'd call quite expensive

i know 225 50 r17 t1r's are around £130 each but were by far the best tyre ive had on an impreza (and there has been alot)

here, they are nearly half price the potenzas and conti's..

are they the proper ones? t1r's?? how much u get them for?
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: TheBoy on 15 April 2010, 19:21:21
Quote
For many years I have used Avon's on all my big Vauxhall's, and have no reason not to recommend them due to their great performance and reliability :y :y :y :y
See, it is fairly well known here that I wouldn't put them on a wheelbarrow ;D

I had a set of ZZ3s on the back of my (admittedly chipped) tractor, tore them to shreds in 4k, and I can't say the grip was that impressive during that time.

I replaced them with some cheap, budget Nexen CP641, and they were miles better except in very heavy rain.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Jimbob on 15 April 2010, 19:25:05
She is running Toyo Proxies T1R's all round....grippy, bit noisy tyre, quite impressed.

Im running  Vredstein Ultra C Sessanta's just as grippy, but quieter.
only have em on the back....pair coming for the front in a month or 2.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: pembsomega on 15 April 2010, 19:30:46
when i used to have a sierra i used to put something expensive on the front and (grim)re(per)moulds on the back, was loads of fun wet or dry,(i was 18 :D) well it was fun till it all went backwards through a hedge thanks to a blow ot on the rear. never skimped on tyres since........

thanks for all you recomendations so far, if i could afford it i think i stick t1r's on as ive done alot with them before, but i cant spend £500 odd on tyres at the mo :(
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 April 2010, 19:36:52
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote


economic
toyo proxes


.


really? how much is expensive then? toyo proxes t1r's are the boys for an impreza and are what i'd call quite expensive

i know 225 50 r17 t1r's are around £130 each but were by far the best tyre ive had on an impreza (and there has been alot)

here, they are nearly half price the potenzas and conti's..

are they the proper ones? t1r's?? how much u get them for?

T1R for the size I use ( 215/55-16) 250 TL (109 £) and adrenaline 390 TL (169 £) .. may give you some idea..
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 15 April 2010, 19:41:30
Firestone SZ80's   :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 15 April 2010, 20:03:19
Quote
Falken ZE912 is my recommendation. We are on our second set, good all round performance and reasonable wear rate.

Hmmm, allow me to pick on you, without "picking on you" if you see what i mean.

Can i ask what other tyres have been fitted to your omega, and what you thought of those? TB and i have differant oppinions on why people choose a tyre, i'll explane later what i mean.

I was impreessed with my 912's when fitted....

but would like to cover your experience Z...
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Boatboy on 15 April 2010, 20:47:50
Quote
Quote
Falken ZE912 is my recommendation. We are on our second set, good all round performance and reasonable wear rate.

Hmmm, allow me to pick on you, without "picking on you" if you see what i mean.

Can i ask what other tyres have been fitted to your omega, and what you thought of those? TB and i have differant oppinions on why people choose a tyre, i'll explane later what i mean.

I was impreessed with my 912's when fitted....

but would like to cover your experience Z...


Another happy Falken user. Reason I bought them, they were recommended (and fitted) by WIM. 1500 miles in they seem to be doing ok. Haven't caused them to let go with either pedal, but then I do tend to drive like somebody's dad since I took up trucking.

Dont remember the various names of the tyres that came with it, but they were all well past it so cant offer a valid critique of pro's and con's.

Seems to me car tyres are like boat anchors. People can get very attached too and defensive about their choices, even though there is seldom a really bad choice that can be made. (takes shelter from anticipated barrage) :P

Steve
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Del Boy on 15 April 2010, 20:50:42
Continental Sport Contact 3's
Dunlop SP Sport

Best tyres I've had so far either of them.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: bigdods on 15 April 2010, 23:28:10
I keep looking for a decent cheap tyre but they just dont seem to work well on the miggy

It came with michelins (cant recall which) , they were reasonable in the dry, ok ish in the wet
then had Falken FK452's - I have these on my TVR and Golf and for those cars they are great but on the miggy I suffered a bit of tramlining, grip was ok wet and dry
Then I tried Falken ZE912's, ok in the dry, very average in the wet and when about half way worn quite dodgy in the wet.
I have now gone for Continental Sport Contact 3's on the rear and they are excellent (only about 2000 miles on them but so far so good). Good grip dry and wet, back end feels a bit more planted. Gettin them on the front next week too.

Contis were cheapest at WIM , even cheaper than camskill and as I was there having Geo done it made sense for them to fit them.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Weds on 15 April 2010, 23:44:14
Quote
I keep looking for a decent cheap tyre but they just dont seem to work well on the miggy

It came with michelins (cant recall which) , they were reasonable in the dry, ok ish in the wet
then had Falken FK452's - I have these on my TVR and Golf and for those cars they are great but on the miggy I suffered a bit of tramlining, grip was ok wet and dry
Then I tried Falken ZE912's, ok in the dry, very average in the wet and when about half way worn quite dodgy in the wet.
I have now gone for Continental Sport Contact 3's on the rear and they are excellent (only about 2000 miles on them but so far so good). Good grip dry and wet, back end feels a bit more planted. Gettin them on the front next week too.

Contis were cheapest at WIM , even cheaper than camskill and as I was there having Geo done it made sense for them to fit them.

How much were the Conti's. I'm in the market for new tyres, mine suffers horribly with tramlining at the moment with Pirelli P zero Rosso, absolutely hate them.. 
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 15 April 2010, 23:46:41
I love Toyo's a set will be going on this MV6 when I finish having a play with it :y

I find they are brilliant in the wet too, but like Jimbob say they are slightly noisey but turning the radio works a treat  ;D
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 16 April 2010, 04:04:27
Quote
Quote
I keep looking for a decent cheap tyre but they just dont seem to work well on the miggy

It came with michelins (cant recall which) , they were reasonable in the dry, ok ish in the wet
then had Falken FK452's - I have these on my TVR and Golf and for those cars they are great but on the miggy I suffered a bit of tramlining, grip was ok wet and dry
Then I tried Falken ZE912's, ok in the dry, very average in the wet and when about half way worn quite dodgy in the wet.
I have now gone for Continental Sport Contact 3's on the rear and they are excellent (only about 2000 miles on them but so far so good). Good grip dry and wet, back end feels a bit more planted. Gettin them on the front next week too.

Contis were cheapest at WIM , even cheaper than camskill and as I was there having Geo done it made sense for them to fit them.

How much were the Conti's. I'm in the market for new tyres, mine suffers horribly with tramlining at the moment with Pirelli P zero Rosso, absolutely hate them.. 
similar experience as bigdods i think except all on the omega, 452 on pfl felt alot better and quiter than previos Pirreli p9000, but given that the p9000s where mullered on the inside edge and noisy in comparrison, that made the falkens when new seem like a godsend, now bare in mind this is pre forum days, i didnt know about camber and set up and tram lining, never mind wishbone failure etc , all things are relative, so the falkens are a good tyre, right? continued with falkens but spent my life with 2.5cdx trying to stop it tramlining, wishbones fitted( not torqued correctly, pre forum days remember) set ups, wheel barings, lemforder wisbones fitted and so on. Didnt know it was the tyres causing the tramlining, so when i got my current 3.2 i thought i'd try the harder 912's, ok to start with but noticed a wonder at the back and alot of pulling on the steering wheel from road inperfections.

Now this was worrying, having raved initially about falken tyres on threads such as this, with help from prominant members on here i was able to swap wheels shod with a couple of Dunlop models, sport maxx and sp 9000 iirc ,transformed the car for the better, and made the mv6's the falkens where fitted to handel worse, but not the same as my elite, i put the rest down to mv6 suspension and the fact we only swapped two wheels.

Why where the 912s so bad? bloody awful, said The Boy...exceptionally soft sidewalls in construction maybe? i dont know, but at least 3 other more enthusiastic drivers on here have experienced the 912 and found them the same, excessive bump steer and appalling directional stabillity, but exceptionally quiet and a comfy ride, i would add grip is poor in wet and dry as they often set off the abs and tc, i had them on for 13k and binned them with 3 or 4 mill of tread left, appalling tyres.

So why did i rave about them at the start? because relatively they where better than what was fitted previosly, very quiet and good ride, took me years and several thousand miles to work out they have the structural rigidity of a water balloon...avoid.

Some members seem happy with the 912, but have a higher profile size, or perhaps driving style means less body roll meaning the profile accross the width stays squarer?

anyway, currently conti sc3 fitted, well happy, awesome grip in comparrison, tad noisier but a small price to pay for less tramlining, Dunlops feel very planted but road noise is poor, a general consensus there too.  :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Bionic on 16 April 2010, 05:14:04
Michelin Primacy Pilot for me, long life, quiet, great roadholding in both wet and dry (hard driven too) and I get a decent mpg too.
What more can you need?
Tried the rest, came back to the best..........
Everyone will have therir own opinions though because just like people - all tyres are different!
As the saying goes- you pays your money etc....
GudLuk
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Bixy1 on 16 April 2010, 11:33:45
Michelins.... if I could afford them, otherwise Kumho's seem ok.. :-/
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: TheBoy on 16 April 2010, 11:42:45
Quote
Michelins.... if I could afford them, otherwise Kumho's seem ok.. :-/
Khumos on the Golden Oldie, didn't like them, but there may be other suspension issues at work as well...
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 16 April 2010, 12:07:42
Quote
Quote
Michelins.... if I could afford them, otherwise Kumho's seem ok.. :-/
Khumos on the Golden Oldie, didn't like them, but there may be other suspension issues at work as well...
But which Kumho's though? If they are a high mileage model then fine that makes sense, but if they're a sport model, as you TB would go for normally, then thats not something to recommend to drivers who want a sport model tyre, on the other hand, if a tyre was good and grippy, with wear rate to match, then no point fitting them to a sunday driver/Mr Daizy type.

For instance, I'm sure Michelin do a model that would suit your needs TB, but on the other hand, who's going to gamble thier price on finding out? i know i wouldn't.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: TheBoy on 16 April 2010, 12:09:55
Quote
Quote
Quote
Michelins.... if I could afford them, otherwise Kumho's seem ok.. :-/
Khumos on the Golden Oldie, didn't like them, but there may be other suspension issues at work as well...
But which Kumho's though? If they are a high mileage model then fine that makes sense, but if thier a sport model, as you TB would go for normally, then thats not something to recommend to drivers who want a sport model tyre, on the other hand, if a tyre was good and grippy, with wear rate to match, then no point fitting them to a sunday driver/Mr Daizy type.

For instance, I'm sure Michelin do a model that would suit your needs TB, but on the other hand, who's going to gamble thier price on finding out? i know i wouldn't.
Ecsta or whatever its called.

When I had a lease car, never found a Michelin that was anything more than poor (for the way I drove the car).
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 16 April 2010, 12:44:17
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
Michelins.... if I could afford them, otherwise Kumho's seem ok.. :-/
Khumos on the Golden Oldie, didn't like them, but there may be other suspension issues at work as well...
But which Kumho's though? If they are a high mileage model then fine that makes sense, but if thier a sport model, as you TB would go for normally, then thats not something to recommend to drivers who want a sport model tyre, on the other hand, if a tyre was good and grippy, with wear rate to match, then no point fitting them to a sunday driver/Mr Daizy type.

For instance, I'm sure Michelin do a model that would suit your needs TB, but on the other hand, who's going to gamble thier price on finding out? i know i wouldn't.
Ecsta or whatever its called.

When I had a lease car, never found a Michelin that was anything more than poor (for the way I drove the car).

Yeah this is it, tyres are a personal thing as you say, very much so, imo its equally important to state the type of tyre thats wanted, as it is to ask whats a good tyre.

If a tyre selection programe existed the software would ask as much of the driver as it would of tyre spec in finding a match, yet ask the majority of drivers what they want realisticly in a tyre, i wonder how many would have all info needed to choose. Experience of poor traits are are equally vital in knowing what you dont want in a tyre to help choise one you fo want.


Just to clarify all this i, suggested i sticky tyre thread a while back to help with threads such as this one, tyres are very expensive, getting the wrong set fitted can be a very expensive mistake to be stuck with for 15k or whatever.

However TB and admin felt that tyres are too personal a thing to give reliable info to buyers, one mans Michelin is another mans nightmare you might say.

And i have to agree but only to a point. Thing is we have a fairly unique opertunity to take out the other massive variable in choosing tyres, the car. How many tyre reviews have you seen for the omega? Not many rear wheel drive cars about these says, never mind finding a review for a ten year old car with tyres available today.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Zuffenhausen on 16 April 2010, 13:04:05
Quote
Quote
Falken ZE912 is my recommendation. We are on our second set, good all round performance and reasonable wear rate.

Hmmm, allow me to pick on you, without "picking on you" if you see what i mean.

Can i ask what other tyres have been fitted to your omega, and what you thought of those? TB and i have differant oppinions on why people choose a tyre, i'll explane later what i mean.

I was impreessed with my 912's when fitted....

but would like to cover your experience Z...

Goodyear Eagles before the Falkens, also used Falkens on Mercedes C220 Coupe and Porsche 944 Cabriolet, been happy withthem on all these cars.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: bigdods on 16 April 2010, 14:25:53
Quote
Quote
I keep looking for a decent cheap tyre but they just dont seem to work well on the miggy

It came with michelins (cant recall which) , they were reasonable in the dry, ok ish in the wet
then had Falken FK452's - I have these on my TVR and Golf and for those cars they are great but on the miggy I suffered a bit of tramlining, grip was ok wet and dry
Then I tried Falken ZE912's, ok in the dry, very average in the wet and when about half way worn quite dodgy in the wet.
I have now gone for Continental Sport Contact 3's on the rear and they are excellent (only about 2000 miles on them but so far so good). Good grip dry and wet, back end feels a bit more planted. Gettin them on the front next week too.

Contis were cheapest at WIM , even cheaper than camskill and as I was there having Geo done it made sense for them to fit them.

How much were the Conti's. I'm in the market for new tyres, mine suffers horribly with tramlining at the moment with Pirelli P zero Rosso, absolutely hate them.. 

Didnt keep the receipt, but I think they were £121 a corner inc fitting and vat. At the time , it worked out only a few quid more than the camskill price and it included fitting so was a bit cheaper all in.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Ploppy on 16 April 2010, 15:57:29
Remember speaking to a Police Traffic officer when omegas in use,  he said the omegas run best on Dunlops....

Ive got goodyear f1 s at rear , and firestones on the front,,,, seem very good.

But will try Dunlops next.

Ploppy 
 :D
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: bigdods on 16 April 2010, 17:39:55
I've just ordered Dunlop SP Sport 01's for the front. I was going to go with the conti sc3's (already on the rear) but I was seduced by the cheaper price of the dunlops. got them from mytyres who were a bit cheaper than camskill this time around £97 per tyre inc vat and shipping
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 April 2010, 17:46:15
Quote
Quote
Michelins.... if I could afford them, otherwise Kumho's seem ok.. :-/
Khumos on the Golden Oldie, didn't like them, but there may be other suspension issues at work as well...

Talked about Kumho with some friends general acceptance is that its like expensive grippy tires in the dry and highly rated but they are a bit weak in the wet..If you are a normal daily driver at normal speeds its adequate for a reasonable price but for spirited driving in wet, imho dont try.. :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Del Boy on 16 April 2010, 17:48:44
Quote
I've just ordered Dunlop SP Sport 01's for the front. I was going to go with the conti sc3's (already on the rear) but I was seduced by the cheaper price of the dunlops. got them from mytyres who were a bit cheaper than camskill this time around £97 per tyre inc vat and shipping
I've got those on my car, stick in anywhere wet or dry it goes there.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 17 April 2010, 00:25:26
Quote
Quote
I've just ordered Dunlop SP Sport 01's for the front. I was going to go with the conti sc3's (already on the rear) but I was seduced by the cheaper price of the dunlops. got them from mytyres who were a bit cheaper than camskill this time around £97 per tyre inc vat and shipping
I've got those on my car, stick in anywhere wet or dry it goes there.

Road noise?
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 17 April 2010, 00:36:09
Quote
Quote
Quote
Falken ZE912 is my recommendation. We are on our second set, good all round performance and reasonable wear rate.

Hmmm, allow me to pick on you, without "picking on you" if you see what i mean.

Can i ask what other tyres have been fitted to your omega, and what you thought of those? TB and i have differant oppinions on why people choose a tyre, i'll explane later what i mean.

I was impreessed with my 912's when fitted....

but would like to cover your experience Z...

Goodyear Eagles before the Falkens, also used Falkens on Mercedes C220 Coupe and Porsche 944 Cabriolet, been happy withthem on all these cars.
What tyre size on your Omega? How would you describe your driving style?
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Kaycee on 17 April 2010, 08:05:33
must admit i had Dunlop sp 9000 on my last CDX and they were very noisy they was also  on my latest elite and also noisy in fact so noisy i thought diff was fubar i cant wait to get some new ones on, when these get to limit which wont be long the ones on the front are verdestien and pleased with those
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: bigdods on 25 May 2010, 08:46:46
Just following up - I now have my Dunlop SP Sport 01's fitted on the front (conti SC3s on back) and my god what a difference. Since owning this car (nearly 3 years now) Its had very poor handling. Wandering all over the road , unstable at speed, poor handling.

It originally had a set of cheapo chinese tyres on, so I first had a set of Falken FK452s, then more recently Falken ZE912s. It has been to WIM 3 times for setup, had new wishbones, steering box adusted and lots of fidding but the handling was still crap.

Now a new set of tyres and bingo its fantastic. Ok its not pin sharp (but it is an omega) but it doesnt wander or tramline any more, it corners crisply and rides more smoothly. No real road noise to speak of either (well no more than previously anyway). Falkens clearly dont suit the Omega.

Oh and the rather worrying shush-shush-shush noise I was getting from the front left has also gone now too. So it wasnt a wheel bearing after all, just the tyre.

Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: raywilb on 25 May 2010, 18:57:14
for wear & tear hankook,s Optimums are good. the ones on my tractor have been on for at least 25k.s & are still ok. big downside id say is excessive road noise, & for that reason i would probably not use them again. :-/ :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 25 May 2010, 19:35:50
Quote
Just following up - I now have my Dunlop SP Sport 01's fitted on the front (conti SC3s on back) and my god what a difference. Since owning this car (nearly 3 years now) Its had very poor handling. Wandering all over the road , unstable at speed, poor handling.

It originally had a set of cheapo chinese tyres on, so I first had a set of Falken FK452s, then more recently Falken ZE912s. It has been to WIM 3 times for setup, had new wishbones, steering box adusted and lots of fidding but the handling was still crap.

Now a new set of tyres and bingo its fantastic. Ok its not pin sharp (but it is an omega) but it doesnt wander or tramline any more, it corners crisply and rides more smoothly. No real road noise to speak of either (well no more than previously anyway). Falkens clearly dont suit the Omega.

Oh and the rather worrying shush-shush-shush noise I was getting from the front left has also gone now too. So it wasnt a wheel bearing after all, just the tyre.


Could not agree more. Thanks for coming back. :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Zuffenhausen on 25 May 2010, 20:23:07
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
Falken ZE912 is my recommendation. We are on our second set, good all round performance and reasonable wear rate.

Hmmm, allow me to pick on you, without "picking on you" if you see what i mean.

Can i ask what other tyres have been fitted to your omega, and what you thought of those? TB and i have differant oppinions on why people choose a tyre, i'll explane later what i mean.

I was impreessed with my 912's when fitted....

but would like to cover your experience Z...

Goodyear Eagles before the Falkens, also used Falkens on Mercedes C220 Coupe and Porsche 944 Cabriolet, been happy withthem on all these cars.
What tyre size on your Omega? How would you describe your driving style?

Size is 225/50/16 all round. Driving style = motorway cruising for 90% of our mileage.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: cruisetopoland on 25 May 2010, 20:32:36
I was impressed with the very cheap Triangle Talon Sport TR918s; £177.99 fitted for all four:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/225-55-16-TALON-99V-XL-2255516-225-55-16-4-NEW-TYRES-/170423340411?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Cars_Tyres_RL&hash=item27ae05cd7b

Much better than the more expensive Federal S535s I was on.

Offered quiet running, reasonable grip, sorted the tramilining and looked good.

Wear was minimal after 5,000 miles; not sure how long they would last but how cheap are they?
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 May 2010, 01:51:39
Anyone recommend any quiet tyres for my Elite 225/55/16.

Obviously grip and wet weather handling is important but the car doesnt get hammered.


But if I go ahead on the GLS and lower/stiffen the suspention then I will want someting super grippy, has anyone tried yokohama tyres.

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=yokohama%20tyres&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 May 2010, 10:27:38
Another thing worth mentioning is that, in my experience, with all tyres I've tried, when the fronts have worn below about half their life, they start tramlining. It's a good idea to rotate them to the rears and replace the fronts at this point, IMHO.

Thinking about it, I need to change a pair on mine imminently. The old dilemma again. Stump up for SC3s or gamble on something cheaper? :-/

Kevin
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: bigdods on 26 May 2010, 12:46:32
Quote
Another thing worth mentioning is that, in my experience, with all tyres I've tried, when the fronts have worn below about half their life, they start tramlining. It's a good idea to rotate them to the rears and replace the fronts at this point, IMHO.

Thinking about it, I need to change a pair on mine imminently. The old dilemma again. Stump up for SC3s or gamble on something cheaper? :-/

Kevin

Same dilemma I had - SC3s on the rear but I found the Dunlops a bit cheaper so took a flyer on them for the fronts and so far have been very impressed.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 May 2010, 13:08:12
Quote
Anyone recommend any quiet tyres for my Elite 225/55/16.

Obviously grip and wet weather handling is important but the car doesnt get hammered.


But if I go ahead on the GLS and lower/stiffen the suspention then I will want someting super grippy, has anyone tried yokohama tyres.

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=yokohama%20tyres&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

I hear they are ok.. but not tested personally..

if you want silent tires.. micheline primacy hp..but they are weak against deep potholes.. in that case adrenaline 8-)
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 May 2010, 13:12:02
Quote

I hear they are ok.. but not tested personally..

if you want silent tires.. micheline primacy hp..but they are weak against deep potholes.. in that case adrenaline 8-)

Conti SC3s are nice and quiet in 17", as are the Falkens, although directional control might be an issue there. Falkens might, on the other hand, be better suited in 16". :-/

Kevin
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: puffa on 26 May 2010, 15:38:01
Had Kumho ecsta on the back of the mig when I brought it, grippy when dry but total rubbish when wet, and very rarely stayed on the road under harsh acceleration. now have Pirelli P7 on the back and so far not had any problems.

Steve
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 26 May 2010, 20:58:11
Quote
Quote

I hear they are ok.. but not tested personally..

if you want silent tires.. micheline primacy hp..but they are weak against deep potholes.. in that case adrenaline 8-)

Conti SC3s are nice and quiet in 17", as are the Falkens, although directional control might be an issue there. Falkens might, on the other hand, be better suited in 16". :-/

Kevin
Does seem that those that dont mind the Falkens (spit) have higher profile tyres in a 16" wheel size, but still report some tramlining in most cases.

Generaly IME the rears tend to ware in the middle, as if over inflated, but the fronts ware the edges, due presumably to the camber variation built into the front geometry and steering generaly, roundabout side especially.

So certainly agree rotating wheels front to back helps this situation.  :y

should add my experience is with 17" 235 45 sizes.

currently 245 40 18" with sc3's. Delighted with the results.... so far. :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: jereboam on 26 May 2010, 21:21:00
No-one's mentioned Pirelli P6000 - I've found them a good choice on all the big cars I've driven recently.  Durable and quiet, and I've never had a problem with grip, except in snow.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Del Boy on 26 May 2010, 21:41:35
Quote
Quote
Quote
I've just ordered Dunlop SP Sport 01's for the front. I was going to go with the conti sc3's (already on the rear) but I was seduced by the cheaper price of the dunlops. got them from mytyres who were a bit cheaper than camskill this time around £97 per tyre inc vat and shipping
I've got those on my car, stick in anywhere wet or dry it goes there.

Road noise?
Hardly any  :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: jordan681 on 30 May 2010, 12:55:08
Personally I'd go with Dunlops..  they've never let me down...  though I'm restricted in what tyre i can have on mine (285/30/18), i tried a cheaper tyre but they were shredded in a matter of months...  I've had my dunlops on for 6 months and only had 2mm of wear out of them...
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 11 November 2010, 22:06:37
Quote
She is running Toyo Proxies T1R's all round....grippy, bit noisy tyre, quite impressed.

Im running  Vredstein Ultra C Sessanta's just as grippy, but quieter.
only have em on the back....pair coming for the front in a month or 2.

Dragging up an old thread ;) after my back tyre went flat (I think all four are leaking slowly, probably from the bead) I'm thinking it might be time to ditch the unknown age/provenance Michelins that came with the car and I was considering the Vredestein Ultra C Sessantas - any further comments on how they hold up?

Either that or perhaps the Dunlop SP Sport 01 - slightly cheaper, too.

I'd consider Toyo Proxes T1-R - I've run those on the MR2 (and their predecessor the T1-S), but having said that they have fairly soft sidewalls which might not suit the weighty Omega - they are lovely and progressive on the limit, though.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: kevinminton on 11 November 2010, 22:58:16
FIO: After an unhappy experience last winter when a kerb jumped out in front of me, I have fitted winter tyres. Got them from Online Performance Tyres near Nottingham http://shop.ebay.co.uk/online-performance-tyres/m.html.  Good service, reasonable price.

Can't judge them in isolation 'cos new wishbones fitted (thanks Daz) and WIM alignment all done together. But they are definitely grippy enough for me on cold wet roads.

K
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: ffcgary1 on 11 November 2010, 23:22:11
I have used pirelli p7000all round on my v6 estate for the last few years and have now done 20,000 on the fronts and 18,000 on the rears, now geting close to the indicators so renewal close.
Road noise was not too bad but tramlining is quite prominant with these tyres, very good in the wet and fantastic in the dry. Only once did the back end step out but that was mainly due to a large amount of diesel on the bend :o, but the tyres coped very well.
I am going back to Michelin pilot primacys as it had pilots on it when i bought it and they were superb. :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Jimbob on 12 November 2010, 07:37:41
Quote
Quote
She is running Toyo Proxies T1R's all round....grippy, bit noisy tyre, quite impressed.

Im running  Vredstein Ultra C Sessanta's just as grippy, but quieter.
only have em on the back....pair coming for the front in a month or 2.

Dragging up an old thread ;) after my back tyre went flat (I think all four are leaking slowly, probably from the bead) I'm thinking it might be time to ditch the unknown age/provenance Michelins that came with the car and I was considering the Vredestein Ultra C Sessantas - any further comments on how they hold up?

Either that or perhaps the Dunlop SP Sport 01 - slightly cheaper, too.

I'd consider Toyo Proxes T1-R - I've run those on the MR2 (and their predecessor the T1-S), but having said that they have fairly soft sidewalls which might not suit the weighty Omega - they are lovely and progressive on the limit, though.


Im still happy...

Mine is running 4 of them now, quiet, grippy, seem reasonable life.

In fact Im putting a pair of them on her car too today  :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 12 November 2010, 10:00:19
Ah Jimbob, just the man I was hoping to see here.. :)

Thanks, good to know they're still performing! I should probably say, my primary criteria for tyres is performance (yes, yes, I know, why buy an Elite estate then ;D ) rather than life :) (as an example - when I get the Neovas put on the MR2 I expect to get no more than 6-7000miles out of them!)
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Auto Addict on 12 November 2010, 11:02:24
Quote
Ah Jimbob, just the man I was hoping to see here.. :)

Thanks, good to know they're still performing! I should probably say, my primary criteria for tyres is performance (yes, yes, I know, why buy an Elite estate then ;D ) rather than life :) (as an example - when I get the Neovas put on the MR2 I expect to get no more than 6-7000miles out of them!)

What you need is Acme performance tyres then, guaranteed 50K +

www.acmeperformancetyres.com  :y
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 12 November 2010, 11:05:46
 ;D If I had tyres that lasted that long they'd be forever being replaced with almost all their tread left - they'd die of age long before the tread was gone :)
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 November 2010, 11:37:09
Quote
What you need is Acme performance tyres then, guaranteed 50K +

www.acmeperformancetyres.com  :y

I suppose they're made out of the same rubber as your crankshaft.

I have been rather happy with the Kumho KU31s I've got on the front of mine. I think I'll be going for another pair now the rears need changing.

Grip, directional stability just as good as the SC3s I had on before. Maybe a little more noise but not enough to worry about. handling - maybe a little less "feel" when turning in but the grip is there nonetheless. Wear rate commensurate with a reasonably grippy tyre, IMHO.

For 85 quid a corner, a no-brainer IMHO.

Kevin
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 12 November 2010, 11:52:15
I suppose anything ought to be better than the mix of one Michelin and four things that don't even have a name I've heard of on them ;D

Although I did just spot you can get A048-Rs in the Elite sizes.. but that would just be silly ;D
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 12 November 2010, 11:58:40
Sadly kumho don't do rim protection in the 18" size I need  :'(

Not many do other than conti it seems.

But I am interested to see what TB goes for next, as his favourites are discontinued. Was impressed with sp9000.... is it?....he had fitted testing new donut bushes. But I was only sitting in the passenger seat....
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 November 2010, 12:05:14
Quote
Although I did just spot you can get A048-Rs in the Elite sizes.. but that would just be silly ;D

One for the "fun while it lasted" category, I think. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 12 November 2010, 12:08:05
Quote
Quote
Although I did just spot you can get A048-Rs in the Elite sizes.. but that would just be silly ;D

One for the "fun while it lasted" category, I think. ;D
:D If it was an Mv6 saloon, I'd consider it.. but since the Elite is meant to be my 'winter' car .. it would be a tad foolish ;)

Sadly the wheels on the MR2 aren't big enough to get A048's, so the Neovas are the next best thing available.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: hazpaker on 12 November 2010, 15:59:39
 I had a full set of 225/55/16 Firestone Firehawk TZ 200 Fuel Savers fitted 2 months ago, Great all round grip, wet, dry, hot or cold  no tendancy to tramline at all, no vibration, I bought them because they were fuel saver tyres and they have done just that.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: tunnie on 12 November 2010, 16:35:40
in 75,000 miles i've only had 2 sets of tyres. It had Goodyear Eagle Ventures on it when i bought it, they were super hard, did 48k in them  :o

Lacked grip though at times  ::)

Now on Falkins, 912's on rear 917's on the front, there is less road noise with them, grip better too. Wear rate is slightly worse, done just 30k on the fronts, and i'd say they have about 5-8k left.

No tramlining issues, but then again i don't have a lot of power, and its been WIM'd!
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 13 November 2010, 00:42:34
Quote
in 75,000 miles i've only had 2 sets of tyres. It had Goodyear Eagle Ventures on it when i bought it, they were super hard, did 48k in them  :o

Lacked grip though at times  ::)

Now on Falkins, 912's on rear 917's on the front, there is less road noise with them, grip better too. Wear rate is slightly worse, done just 30k on the fronts, and i'd say they have about 5-8k left
No tramlining issues, but then again i don't have a lot of power, and its been WIM'd!
What IS the matter with you T? 35k from 912s?  And btw, they are appalling tyres on the omega.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Kneepad on 13 November 2010, 22:24:26


Anyone else noticed, as soon as tyre is mentioned in the subject line of a post, it turns into a marathon thread.
 Must be one of the most boring  topics on the forum (as far as I'm concerned), but then I did spend several miserable years bulding tyres for Vredestein.  :'(
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 November 2010, 00:06:23
Quote
Sadly the wheels on the MR2 aren't big enough to get A048's, so the Neovas are the next best thing available.

How do you find them?(he asked, planning the next Westfield tyre purchase) ::)

What size are you running?

Yoko site shows both down to 205/50/15 (which is still a seriously pimpy size if you're claiming it's a tyre for "sports cars" IMHO.)  ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 14 November 2010, 00:10:26
Quote
Quote
Sadly the wheels on the MR2 aren't big enough to get A048's, so the Neovas are the next best thing available.

How do you find them?(he asked, planning the next Westfield tyre purchase) ::)

What size are you running?

Yoko site shows both down to 205/50/15 (which is still a seriously pimpy size if you're claiming it's a tyre for "sports cars" IMHO.)  ::)

Kevin

The Neovas I run are the Lotus fitment tyres - so they're only available in one size as they were specifically designed for the S1 Elise, oh and only available from Lotus dealers or specialists.

Their full name is Yokohama Advan Neova LTS ;)

http://www.eliseparts.com/products/show/78/481/yokohama-advan-neova/

They come in 195/50R15 (fronts) and 225/45R16 (rears) but they really are a stunning tyre - next best grip to something like an R888/A048, superbly communicative, stiff sidewalls..

They even worked in winter when they were basically slicks (er.. whoops!) ;D

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v195/29/12/672941203/n672941203_783573_2627.jpg)

You can almost still see the tread pattern ;D
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 14 November 2010, 00:13:35
Oh - I am pondering trying out the AD08's ('new' Neova) next time however, as I was let down by the last people I bought a set of LTS from :( still trying to get a refund for that.. :-/

They're about the same price and if they're as grippy & communicative they'd be great.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 November 2010, 00:29:54
Quote
Oh - I am pondering trying out the AD08's ('new' Neova) next time however, as I was let down by the last people I bought a set of LTS from :( still trying to get a refund for that.. :-/

They're about the same price and if they're as grippy & communicative they'd be great.

<rubs chin>

Yes, I've wondered about them. Then again, the Toyo Proxes / Parada Spec 2 option is a good bit cheaper, and probably just as good for a road car. :-/

.. If I can find someone with anything in stock under about 17", that is.  ;D

I might change to 195/50/15s. Seems a more popular (and cheaper) choice than the 205/50/15s I've currently got.

Kevin
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 14 November 2010, 00:55:08
I ran Proxes for a long time, too - and I really like them (especially on larger diameter wheels to shorten the sidewall), but the Neovas were really on a different level.

Although given the price differential and the fact that T1-Rs would last ~12k and the Neovas about 6k ..
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 November 2010, 01:40:00
Life not really an issue, TBH. I reckon I might get better wear given the lighter car and the fact that it does get a reasonable amount of commuting and motorway transit to and from the places where the roads are good. It only does 5 or 6k a year anyway (a bit less this year <cough!>).

Hmm.

Kevin
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: tunnie on 14 November 2010, 08:20:17
Quote
Quote
in 75,000 miles i've only had 2 sets of tyres. It had Goodyear Eagle Ventures on it when i bought it, they were super hard, did 48k in them  :o

Lacked grip though at times  ::)

Now on Falkins, 912's on rear 917's on the front, there is less road noise with them, grip better too. Wear rate is slightly worse, done just 30k on the fronts, and i'd say they have about 5-8k left
No tramlining issues, but then again i don't have a lot of power, and its been WIM'd!
What IS the matter with you T? 35k from 912s?  And btw, they are appalling tyres on the omega.

90% motorway miles + WIM Setup = Hardly any wear!

Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 14 November 2010, 10:53:55
Quote
Quote
Quote
in 75,000 miles i've only had 2 sets of tyres. It had Goodyear Eagle Ventures on it when i bought it, they were super hard, did 48k in them  :o

Lacked grip though at times  ::)

Now on Falkins, 912's on rear 917's on the front, there is less road noise with them, grip better too. Wear rate is slightly worse, done just 30k on the fronts, and i'd say they have about 5-8k left
No tramlining issues, but then again i don't have a lot of power, and its been WIM'd!
What IS the matter with you T? 35k from 912s?  And btw, they are appalling tyres on the omega.

90% motorway miles + WIM Setup = Hardly any wear!

Press that pedal man!  ;D.  ;)
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 14 November 2010, 15:41:30
Quote
Life not really an issue, TBH. I reckon I might get better wear given the lighter car and the fact that it does get a reasonable amount of commuting and motorway transit to and from the places where the roads are good. It only does 5 or 6k a year anyway (a bit less this year <cough!>).

Hmm.

Kevin

Once I get a set of something on the MR2 you're more than welcome to come over and have a play - unless it's snowing of course  :-X ;D
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 November 2010, 16:35:22
Quote
Sadly kumho don't do rim protection in the 18" size I need  :'(

Not many do other than conti it seems.

But I am interested to see what TB goes for next, as his favourites are discontinued. Was impressed with sp9000.... is it?....he had fitted testing new donut bushes. But I was only sitting in the passenger seat....
Was it the MV6? If so, Dunlop SP9000 :). If it was the Elite, Michelin Pilot Sport 2  :(.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 November 2010, 16:37:05
Quote
Quote
in 75,000 miles i've only had 2 sets of tyres. It had Goodyear Eagle Ventures on it when i bought it, they were super hard, did 48k in them  :o

Lacked grip though at times  ::)

Now on Falkins, 912's on rear 917's on the front, there is less road noise with them, grip better too. Wear rate is slightly worse, done just 30k on the fronts, and i'd say they have about 5-8k left
No tramlining issues, but then again i don't have a lot of power, and its been WIM'd!
What IS the matter with you T? 35k from 912s?  And btw, they are appalling tyres on the omega.
We should applaud the Useless Student for having the discipline to drive like an old woman as long as he is not in front of me
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: feeutfo on 14 November 2010, 19:15:47
Quote
Quote
Sadly kumho don't do rim protection in the 18" size I need  :'(

Not many do other than conti it seems.

But I am interested to see what TB goes for next, as his favourites are discontinued. Was impressed with sp9000.... is it?....he had fitted testing new donut bushes. But I was only sitting in the passenger seat....
Was it the MV6? If so, Dunlop SP9000 :). If it was the Elite, Michelin Pilot Sport 2  :(.
Yep mv6, so what will be next tyres? Seeing as sp9000 are discontinued?
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 November 2010, 21:37:24
Quote
Quote
Quote
Sadly kumho don't do rim protection in the 18" size I need  :'(

Not many do other than conti it seems.

But I am interested to see what TB goes for next, as his favourites are discontinued. Was impressed with sp9000.... is it?....he had fitted testing new donut bushes. But I was only sitting in the passenger seat....
Was it the MV6? If so, Dunlop SP9000 :). If it was the Elite, Michelin Pilot Sport 2  :(.
Yep mv6, so what will be next tyres? Seeing as sp9000 are discontinued?
I really don't know - not found anything better than the SP90x0, and always returned to them after flirting with other tyres....
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 14 November 2010, 21:38:47
A048s? R888s? I'll guarantee they'll have more grip than the SP9000s ;)
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 November 2010, 21:40:57
Quote
A048s? R888s? I'll guarantee they'll have more grip than the SP9000s ;)
True, but the SP90x0 have sensible durability...  ...for me, a perfect compromise  :'(
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: aaronjb on 14 November 2010, 21:42:05
Quote
Quote
A048s? R888s? I'll guarantee they'll have more grip than the SP9000s ;)
True, but the SP90x0 have sensible durability...  ...for me, a perfect compromise  :'(

Probably a wee bit less lethal in the wet, too.. You could try the AD08s, although if their durability is like the LTS, they won't last very long either :-/
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 November 2010, 21:45:19
Its like the P6000s - not normally a tyre I would use, but simply stunning on the Rover. They aren't made either now, replaced with some gay, pointless eco tyre.
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 November 2010, 22:44:19
Quote
Its like the P6000s - not normally a tyre I would use, but simply stunning on the Rover. They aren't made either now, replaced with some gay, pointless eco tyre.

Might be worth trying KU31s. Been happy with them and £85 a corner.

Some of the slightly less sticky Yokohama stuff perhaps? Parada Spec 2? A539? Toyo T1-R?

Kevin
Title: Re: recommend tyres?
Post by: jon- on 16 November 2010, 21:56:32
Quote
Its like the P6000s - not normally a tyre I would use, but simply stunning on the Rover. They aren't made either now, replaced with some gay, pointless eco tyre.

The issue with the P6000 is there was about 10000 different OEM versions of it.

Unfortunately for the P6000, nearly all of them were rubbish: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Pirelli/P6000.htm