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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 17 January 2008, 14:22:12
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I'm not pilot, but that plane from impact to standstill doesn't look far.
Well done to pilot I guess.
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Yes, and guess what flight I am getting back to Heathrow on from Beijing a week on Sunday......
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eh? i can't see nothing?
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Just remember the golden rule...
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing..
Any landing where they can use the plane again is a great landing ;D
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I'm not pilot, but that plane from impact to standstill doesn't look far.
The lack of any undercarriage makes for a very effective braking system, as one of my glider syndicate partners demonstrated a couple of years ago, much to my annoyance. >:(
The fuselage belly tends to wear a bit quicker than the brake pads though. :-/
Kevin
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eh? i can't see nothing?
I thought that too!
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Not a news site not talking about it...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7194086.stm
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I'm not pilot, but that plane from impact to standstill doesn't look far.
Well done to pilot I guess.
Somehow I think landing 100 yards SHORT of the runway, on a soft surface, such that you rip the main undercarriage off, when in front of you is 2 miles of prepared surface, does not deserve a "well done"
At least he/she managed to miss the perimeter road or it would be a much much sadder outcome .. but I think someone will have some very serious questions to answer on why they were so short.
:)
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bugger thats a mess !! very lucky me thinks ::)
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I'm not pilot, but that plane from impact to standstill doesn't look far.
Exactly the same thought crossed my mind when I saw the pic.
I guess "bits of plane sticking in mud" works better than brakes on tarmac? :o
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If you look at the pictures on the beeb
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7194201.stm
Picture #4 especially, you can see that after the undercariage has sheared of the lower edge of the engine intake has "gouged" the ground .. this is a bit like using a bulldozer blade as a brake ..... darned effective !
Reports that the undercarriage was "up" are clearly wrong as picture #5 shows the nose gear down and intact... ..and this probably saved far more serious damage
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I'm not pilot, but that plane from impact to standstill doesn't look far.
Well done to pilot I guess.
Somehow I think landing 100 yards SHORT of the runway, on a soft surface, such that you rip the main undercarriage off, when in front of you is 2 miles of prepared surface, does not deserve a "well done"
At least he/she managed to miss the perimeter road or it would be a much much sadder outcome .. but I think someone will have some very serious questions to answer on why they were so short.
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An airport worker told the BBC the pilot on the Boeing 777 had said he had lost all power, and had been forced to glide the plane into land.
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Picture #3 shows that the under carrage leg was down and has gone up through the wing, eye witnesses have said that they saw the plane going extreamly slow as it crossed the A30 and perimiter road and seemed to be rocking as it came in, then it just belly floped down into the soft grass area short of the runway. :y
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Oh dont worry mark, for your flight back from china they will have put it back together with some string and sticky tape. ;)
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Picture #3 shows that the under carrage leg was down and has gone up through the wing, eye witnesses have said that they saw the plane going extreamly slow as it crossed the A30 and perimiter road and seemed to be rocking as it came in, then it just belly floped down into the soft grass area short of the runway. :y
Sounded like due to loss of power that it eventually stalled and dropped.
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Sounded like due to loss of power that it eventually stalled and dropped.
That figures. Guess he was trying to stretch the glide and didn't quite make it. That explains why the undercarriage didn't just collapse but went through the wing. :o I guess it hit the ground with a fair bit of vertical speed!
Still, could have been worse. A couple of knots less and it'd have crashed outside the airport boundary.
Worrying that a twin can lose both engines and all avionics at once though :o Guess there'll be some questions asked about that one!
Kinda makes me wonder if he got his fuel calculations right. :o
Kevin
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Definition of a good pilot, is one who has as many landings as take off's..
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Sounded like due to loss of power that it eventually stalled and dropped.
That figures. Guess he was trying to stretch the glide and didn't quite make it. That explains why the undercarriage didn't just collapse but went through the wing. :o I guess it hit the ground with a fair bit of vertical speed!
Still, could have been worse. A couple of knots less and it'd have crashed outside the airport boundary.
Worrying that a twin can lose both engines and all avionics at once though :o Guess there'll be some questions asked about that one!
Kinda makes me wonder if he got his fuel calculations right. :o
Kevin
I thought fuel. But then a few eye witnesses said the engines were making a lot of noise. Wonder if it was a (multiple?) failure in the systems that control the engines/controls?
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Sounded like due to loss of power that it eventually stalled and dropped.
That figures. Guess he was trying to stretch the glide and didn't quite make it. That explains why the undercarriage didn't just collapse but went through the wing. :o I guess it hit the ground with a fair bit of vertical speed!
Still, could have been worse. A couple of knots less and it'd have crashed outside the airport boundary.
Worrying that a twin can lose both engines and all avionics at once though :o Guess there'll be some questions asked about that one!
Kinda makes me wonder if he got his fuel calculations right. :o
Kevin
I thought fuel. But then a few eye witnesses said the engines were making a lot of noise. Wonder if it was a (multiple?) failure in the systems that control the engines/controls?
I wonder if the control systems are made by windows? ;D
Could be autopilot issue?
Remember that brand new Airbus that went down, russian airliner, he let his kids into the cockpit :o
Kid 'played' with the yoke, although it was on Autopiliot, but if the joke was held in a position for so long, it override the autopilot.
They do land planes fully automatically now...
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I wonder if the control systems are made by windows? ;D
Or worse still, Linux!
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The thing only just missed my car which is in the carpark you can see in pics by the grass. :o
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.... but if the joke was held in a position for so long, it override the autopilot.......
That what happens with Grey Funnel Line. Going back to the days when the Torre Canyon ran aground, at night, in Cornwall, it was cos no one knew how to turn off the auto pilot.
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Crank Sensor?
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Crank Sensor?
If not, it'll be the ECU! ::)