Omega Owners Forum
Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: stemon on 15 September 2008, 07:41:23
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hi guys ive got 18" alloys and would like to fill them as the current brakes look pants, any idea's? more of a show thing im no boy racer ;D
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no kits for omega as it doesnt need Bigger brakes the standard ones are more than capable
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bigger discs would obviously need the caliper moving out from the centre to allow for the bigger size. So either new bigger radious calipers or a bracket to re locate the old ones.
I would guess you would be looking at a brembo or ap set up if they do a kit, but that will be serious cash.
Dont recal much talk of modifying the brake set up on here tbh.
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Interesting, the omega is the hardest car to get parts for , i swear someone on here fitted GTO brakes , brembo would be nice but cant find a kit for the omega. i know standard brakes are good but im thinking bigger just for looks , im not a racer just enjoy suttle modifing.
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I'm sure if you spoke to someone like Wilwood, they'd be able to do you a kit - but would probably cost more than your wheels!
Lotus Carlton - if you could find some - maybe?
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Interesting, the omega is the hardest car to get parts for , i swear someone on here fitted GTO brakes , brembo would be nice but cant find a kit for the omega. i know standard brakes are good but im thinking bigger just for looks , im not a racer just enjoy suttle modifing.
IIRC it was one of the Catera owners, did't they use Monaro bits? :-/
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I notice that people are saying how good the Omega brakes are, I must have a lemon as mine ar utter rubbish, a long brake pedal and they fade like hell, no matter what i do to sort them out they are just absolute rubbish
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that sounds like your brakes are unwell, change the fluid for a start!!! have you got cheap pads on? et some genunie vaux ones on! if that don't work look into your master cylinder and abs unit. the standard brakes are very good
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Yeah they can (should) be excellent but they do deteriorate quite badly if neglected.
When I got my first miggy the brakes were pants, new discs/pads, strip/clean/lub carriers and be-rust the rest...transformed them. :y
New fluid is a good idea too, but the above will give more noticable improvements. Even just stripping the carriers will give big benefits for zero outlay...
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Agree the standard setup is v good if healthy. I recently fitted bog standard Vaux trade cub pads on the front and Lockheed rears and bled the brakes again with Dot 5.1 (only needed to do this because a bleed valve leaked while the wishbones were being done) and my brakes now feel like they'd stop a train. Mind you, my only regular comparison is the Monza and its brakes have always felt wooden no matter what I do to them, whereas I find most Monzas have a pretty good pedal.
I heard once that master cylinders and servos should ideally be matched and I once replaced the master cylinder only on the Monza whilst trying to diagnose a problem. Buggered if I'm going through the whole process again and changing it back though!
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Dont be tight when it comes to brake pads, either go for genuine vauxhall pads or get, as I did ferrodo premier pads all round only cost £45 all in for front and rear pads, and spot on every time, have not experienced any brake fade/overheating.
Sure I could have got front and rear pads for £30 all in from my local supplier, but you pay for what you get, Buy cheap you get cheap !!!.
Steve.
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I had always used gen Vaux discs and pads and have always been rubbish, however, recently tried std mintex pads and it is all of a sudden brakes are like dropping an anchor out of the boot. ;D
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cough cough, it is dusty round here today, lots of brake dust ;D
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the standard design is very poor - even when in tip-top condition.
having said that if you are "no boy racer" then I wouldn't recommend changing them, just go for new standard components.
regarding the wheels, then really it's backwards - the reason for going to bigger wheels is to clear a brake package that you've got, rather than the other way round.
for larger brakes, there are options :-
Monaro / Commodore / GTO brakes. Actually no larger than the ones you already have. And not up to a car of that performance.
Lotus Carlton. Very much up to the performance - when new, regarded as the best brakes ever fitted to a saloon. Downsides are that they are very expensive ( think over £2K to convert using s/h parts ) and they have some reliability issues when not used every day.
AP racing Monaro set - basically the same as the Lotus brakes. same comments apply.
I actually have a car with 350mm discs fitted (road-driven track car) and they do indeed stop very well, and are cheap ( £250 for the lot ). But I'm not willing to divulge the "how" part because I've not got the product liability insurance to cover any potential mishaps. sorry.
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I had always used gen Vaux discs and pads and have always been rubbish, however, recently tried std mintex pads and it is all of a sudden brakes are like dropping an anchor out of the boot. ;D
My brakes have always worked incredibly, I recently checked them and they are Mintex pads :y :y
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don't forget Mintex also make "general" pads as well as the "racing" ones they made their name for.
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Good stuff Zombie, thing is they are about the same price as Vaux's own.
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hi guys ive got 18" alloys and would like to fill them as the current brakes look pants, any idea's? more of a show thing im no boy racer ;D
I got the same responses when i asked a similar question about the brakes a while back.
Have you looked at the Saab stuff? I'm still looking into it myself but i think there must be a powerful Saab with bigger brakes than the 286mm.
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Agree the standard setup is v good if healthy. I recently fitted bog standard Vaux trade cub pads on the front and Lockheed rears and bled the brakes again with Dot 5.1 (only needed to do this because a bleed valve leaked while the wishbones were being done) and my brakes now feel like they'd stop a train. Mind you, my only regular comparison is the Monza and its brakes have always felt wooden no matter what I do to them, whereas I find most Monzas have a pretty good pedal.
I heard once that master cylinders and servos should ideally be matched and I once replaced the master cylinder only on the Monza whilst trying to diagnose a problem. Buggered if I'm going through the whole process again and changing it back though!
I put new discs and pads on the front, and bled the entire system, the brakes are brilliant, mintex pads as far as I can remember.
I thought Migs take DOT 4
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Dot 4 min spec, 5.1 is just synthetic dot4 so boils at a higher temperature.