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Title: breakdown!
Post by: Aundie on 06 December 2010, 21:57:34
as i was coming home tonight dash lights dimmed then failed warning lights all came on then car overheated any ideas? battery is now flat.
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Post by: Broomies Mate on 06 December 2010, 21:58:51
Auxillary Belt snapped is my guess.
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Post by: vauxfan2k on 06 December 2010, 21:58:56
id say its the fan belt snapped, or pulley given up, seeing as it drives the waterpump and alternator
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Post by: Aundie on 06 December 2010, 22:03:31
thanks people guessed somthing like that just too cold to be looking tonight!
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Post by: Kneepad on 06 December 2010, 22:04:10


Agreed on this, no drive to alternator, or waterpump points to auxillary belt fubard.   :(
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Post by: Brikhead on 06 December 2010, 22:05:52
You must have carried on driving for some time to have flattened the battery.
Hopefully the cold weather will have prevented too much damage(!).
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Post by: Broomies Mate on 06 December 2010, 22:09:21
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You must have carried on driving for some time to have flattened the battery.
Hopefully the cold weather will have prevented too much damage(!).

No mention of flat battery until after the event;

Overheating:  The temperature will rise instantly, as there is no coolant pumping around the engine.

Also, driving for a fair distance is not easy when you have no power steering, and on an Omega, power steering is mandatory lol  :y
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Post by: Andy B on 06 December 2010, 22:12:21
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as i was coming home tonight dash lights dimmed then failed warning lights all came on then car overheated any ideas? battery is now flat.

If the auxiliary/fan belt snapped, then the first thing you should have noticed is the red charge light coming on, then as you turned off to check, you'd have noticed that you'd lost all assistance of your steering. It would've taken a mile or two on driving for the engine to overheat. As for the battery now being flat, I've no idea. I agree with Brickhead but was trying to be diplomatic  ;)

I can say all this cos all the above happened in that order to me a few weeks ago when my fan belt snapped.  ;) My battery had enough charge to restart my car 3 times as I started it to coast down a long hill on my way home and then start it to drive it up the ramp of the recovery truck.  :y :y
Title: Re: breakdown!
Post by: Aundie on 07 December 2010, 00:19:30
had no warning apart from dull dash untill temp light came on i stopped and it failed to restart.
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Post by: Aundie on 08 December 2010, 00:41:21
got a good look today and yes the belt is gone anyone recomend a good place to order a new one?
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Post by: Kneepad on 08 December 2010, 00:45:33

Send a PM to AndyC, he is a Vauxhall parts manager and will supply the belt at Trade Card prices for OOF members.
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Post by: Kneepad on 08 December 2010, 00:48:46


PM or email AndyC details:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=636C667B61020
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Post by: Aundie on 08 December 2010, 00:50:29
thanks very much thats appricated :y
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Post by: Welung666 on 08 December 2010, 05:57:14
You need to investigate why the belt went as well because it will just throw the new belt if the cause isn't rectified! Is the tensioner siezed? Water pump?
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Post by: Aundie on 08 December 2010, 14:22:03
any help with water pump location please!
does this belt affect timing at all?
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Post by: Aundie on 08 December 2010, 14:45:30
anyone?
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Post by: djac on 08 December 2010, 15:24:39
There's a diagram in this thread:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1262391402/4#4

Tried to copy/paste it in but it wouldn't do it....
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Post by: Kneepad on 08 December 2010, 15:31:42
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any help with water pump location please!
does this belt affect timing at all?


No effect on timing.    :y
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Post by: Aundie on 08 December 2010, 15:53:54
guess the tensioner is done! should i be able to turn it by hand? i cant
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Post by: Welung666 on 08 December 2010, 16:03:07
Bearings are siezed then. Ask andyc when you ask about your aux belt :y
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Post by: Gaffers on 08 December 2010, 16:12:06
If you update your profile with your location maybe one of us can help  :y
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Post by: Andy B on 08 December 2010, 16:34:28
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any help with water pump location please!
does this belt affect timing at all?

WP is the water pump.  :y

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/OMEGAFORUM/V6AuxBeltRoute.jpg)
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Post by: Aundie on 08 December 2010, 19:07:04
is the tensioner an easy fix?
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Post by: dbug on 08 December 2010, 19:17:58
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is the tensioner an easy fix?
You just want the tensioner wheel with the bearing.  Undo nut in centre (15mm), remove old, fit new and retighten nut  :y  2 minutes!!  Refit belt as per diagram above.
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Post by: Aundie on 08 December 2010, 19:40:53
exellent you lot have saved me some serious time before i've even started. ;D
one other question i have a front wheel hub to replace also and have read some silly torque figures for tightening it! over 300nm would i just get away with tight as i can on a 3' bit of scaffhold?
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Post by: Broomies Mate on 08 December 2010, 19:52:28
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exellent you lot have saved me some serious time before i've even started. ;D
one other question i have a front wheel hub to replace also and have read some silly torque figures for tightening it! over 300nm would i just get away with tight as i can on a 3' bit of scaffhold?

If it really does have to be that tight, use a trolley jack to raise the 3ft Scaff Bar on a very good ratchet and socket, then lower/raise/lower/raise etc until you have reached the desired torque.  :y
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Post by: Aundie on 08 December 2010, 19:59:37
thing is cant find a torque wrench that goes that high!
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Post by: Kneepad on 08 December 2010, 20:10:40


Do the work then ask your local garage to torque it up for you.
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Post by: Aundie on 08 December 2010, 20:19:17
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Do the work then ask your local garage to torque it up for you.
that's the plan mate cheers for all your help!
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Post by: Aundie on 23 December 2010, 19:22:57
belt fixed folks new issue now broken (hall)? sensor so my mate says car runs but not as sweet as usual engine managment light on but goes out at high revs.
does that sound like a proper diagnosis?
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Post by: Kneepad on 23 December 2010, 22:29:46


A  paperclip test should reveal all:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687
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Post by: Aundie on 24 December 2010, 14:58:28
it is the hall sensor are these easy to replace?
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Post by: freecall666 on 24 December 2010, 15:12:15
do you have a lot of tapping coming from the engine??
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Post by: Aundie on 20 January 2011, 22:14:36
is a bit noisey yes.
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Post by: tidla on 20 January 2011, 22:31:29
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A  paperclip test should reveal all:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687

as kneepad suggests.
code number will further illuminate matters without confusing the issue with engine noises.
Title: Re: breakdown!
Post by: Aundie on 20 January 2011, 22:57:45
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