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Title: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: sport on 09 December 2010, 16:40:44
Rear wheel bearing at VX dealers been priced at £50 is this about write
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: Big_Roger on 09 December 2010, 17:02:06
Hi,
Yup,

Make sure you get the one for estate (saloon is different)

Got mine from Europart for about this price.

Roger
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: Boditza on 09 December 2010, 17:05:13
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Rear wheel bearing at VX dealers been priced at £50 is this about write

yep.. but to change it you will need a garage too do it.. at least that is my recomandation :)
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: sport on 09 December 2010, 17:46:17
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Rear wheel bearing at VX dealers been priced at £50 is this about write

yep.. but to change it you will need a garage too do it.. at least that is my recomandation :)


Hi yes i have been priced at a fixed price of £40 + £15 to change my shocks
Gas Shocks from VX  £100
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: RobG on 09 December 2010, 17:53:25
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Rear wheel bearing at VX dealers been priced at £50 is this about write

yep.. but to change it you will need a garage too do it.. at least that is my recomandation :)


Hi yes i have been priced at a fixed price of £40 + £15 to change my shocks
Gas Shocks from VX  £100
To fit A REAR wheel bearing :o :o :o
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: amba on 09 December 2010, 20:28:46
Are you sure they are charging you £40 to replace a rear wheel bearing .

To do the job its about 3-4 hours and thats assming the bearing presses in and out without much grief.

They are working for less that £12=00 an hour...let me know if they do a good job and price charged is correct.

They will not be short of future customers ,assuming they are still in business !!!
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: feeutfo on 10 December 2010, 00:11:53
bloody hell! they can do mine too.
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: fiend61 on 10 December 2010, 08:48:42
can do all four of mine at that price even though they are ok (preventitive maintainance) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: Big_Roger on 10 December 2010, 21:29:15
Hi,
Something doesn't sound right to me on this. Being of a suspicious nature of course.

Before I set out to do mine, I went to Vx main dealer to get price,
was told that did I really wish to know, as it would be more than the car was worth, and recommended to try a garage that specialised in Vx but not dealer, and gave me details. They quoted me £250.00 + part cost.

Tried very local garage all makes, he wouldn't touch it, as he put it, with a barge pole. Suggested another local back alley feller that as soon as I met him I made up my mind that whatever he quoted I wasn't going to take it.
Tried another garage recommended to me, they quoted £350.00 at least.

If you can get it done for that price then by all means go for it, but keep eyes wide open. The saying about peanuts and monkeys springs to mind.

Having done my own in the end and knowing whats involved something seems wrong here.

In a garage with all the most up to date lifting gear, and simply every one of the Vx special tools listed as needed to do the job with no problem, and a couple of persons, it would be a couple of hours work.

From what I can tell, there is a fear of Omegas as nothing but hassle.
But this job is more about having all the gear to do it, than the actual difficulty. Its only much the same as a normal FWD car bearing change job.

 
Roger


Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: feeutfo on 10 December 2010, 23:09:14
The price quoted does imply they don't have a clue tbh.

Plus, it has been suggested in the past that it's easier to change the whole trailing arm for a known good one.
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: sport on 11 December 2010, 20:27:26
Hi he used to work at vx 15 years and done many omega bearings it takes no more than 2 hours a side
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: amba on 11 December 2010, 22:08:10
Fair play to him then.

Let us know when the job is done and his details as am sure he will have plenty more heading his way at that price.
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: sport on 22 January 2011, 18:08:29
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Rear wheel bearing at VX dealers been priced at £50 is this about write

yep.. but to change it you will need a garage too do it.. at least that is my recomandation :)


Hi yes i have been priced at a fixed price of £40 + £15 to change my shocks
Gas Shocks from VX  £100

Hi went for m.o.t today. Faild on rear wheel bearing and rear shocks i must have heard him wrong its costing me £140 + bearing
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: Jimbob on 22 January 2011, 19:12:30
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Rear wheel bearing at VX dealers been priced at £50 is this about write

yep.. but to change it you will need a garage too do it.. at least that is my recomandation :)


Hi yes i have been priced at a fixed price of £40 + £15 to change my shocks
Gas Shocks from VX  £100

Hi went for m.o.t today. Faild on rear wheel bearing and rear shocks i must have heard him wrong its costing me £140 + bearing


bad luck on the fail, but after seeing how the job can go, I think thats a fair price.
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: SteveS on 22 January 2011, 21:21:59
I have rear wheel bearing that's been rumbling for a little while and I will need to replace i at some stage.
I have looked around for a few prices and the Vx main dealer was £50 for the bearing only. I can't remember their price to ft it, but they were the highest in the region of £350 and the lowest was about £170 all in.
I was going to tackle it myself, but I'm a bit concerned about the recommendation on this thread to put it into a garage to do the job.
Is it that difficult? Haynes manual does give it a 4 out of 5 spanner rating, so fairly hard but not the most difficult job. Special tools mentioned are Torque wrench and bearing puller. I've changed wheel bearings on other cars before but not the Omega.
Any recommendations from those that have done it?

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: Cliffo B on 22 January 2011, 21:32:39
Did this job 3 yrs back (pre forum days) I took wishbone off and went to a small engineering workshop who had a hydraulic press they removed the old bearing and fitted the new one did a good job for £30.00
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: Andy H on 22 January 2011, 21:47:40
Here is an old thread about bearing replacement clicky (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1186653928/0)

I recall seeing a more detailed description in a thread last year but I cannot remember who was doing the bearing change....
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: Jimbob on 22 January 2011, 21:56:12
Mark DTM and myself tackled one on my old estate about 2 years back.

Mark actually had the real vauxhall tool...it just bent.
There was no way the old one was coming out, so in the end we had no choice but to remove the whole rear trailing arm, and using a drift, sledgehammer the old one out, no mean feat at all.

IF you tackle the job, be prepared to be stranded, and sort a backup plan!

There are times when the job will go according to plan, but if this one doesnt, your car is going nowhere once youve started.
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: SteveS on 22 January 2011, 23:23:52
The link from Andy H is interesting. From the pictures it looks like they used a substantial slide hammer to remove the hub and another tool looks like a hydraulic press to put the new bearing in, but the bit I imagine to be the hardest is to remove the bearing outer sleeve from the housing if its seize/corroded in.
kcl from Finland managed to do the job, but it does appear that he started in August 2007 and finished in March 2009. I was hoping I might be able to do it and only take the car off the road only for a weekend.
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: Andy H on 23 January 2011, 14:51:23
A question before you start....

What condition are your rear brake disks?

When I first got my previous Omega I quickly came to the conclusion that the rear wheel bearings were going to need replacing because small changes in direction would trigger rumbling noises from the back of the car.

I left it for a while. MOT time came round and I did some pre MOT checks. The inner pads were rusted in to the rear calipers so I took them out, cleaned up the edges and put them back in. The inside faces of the brake discs were very rusty and clearly hadn't provided any useful braking force for a long time.

After the roller brake test there was a could of red dust hanging around the back of the car.

I never heard any more rumbling noises from the back of the car (I kept it for 5 years / 70000 miles) so I have to assume that rough brake disks rubbing against seized pads were the cause :y
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: Boditza on 23 January 2011, 15:44:07
when the wheel bearings are gone your wheel most likely will have play if you grab the suspended wheel with one hand at 12 oclock and the other at 6, and pull up and down. this was my case and sorted out in a few hours at my mechanic. 20€ was the price but he did not know in what he was getting himself into :D
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: SteveS on 23 January 2011, 17:32:02
Andy H,
I'm fairly sure it's not the rear brakes. I did those last March and from recollection I took off the Disc/drum to check the handbrake shoes. There seemed to be no problem there so refitted and adjusted up the handbrake.

The noise to me sounds more like a rumble than a rubbing noise.
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: SteveS on 23 January 2011, 19:11:52
Boditza,
Just jacked the car up and checked the wheel bearing for play and it seems fairly tight still (handbrake off of course), so I don't think mine is too close to complete failure, just noisy. 
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: Boditza on 23 January 2011, 19:17:00
mine had play in it.. verry small play but it was there :(
Title: Re: Rear wheel bearing
Post by: kcl on 24 January 2011, 06:31:24
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The link from Andy H is interesting. From the pictures it looks like they used a substantial slide hammer to remove the hub and another tool looks like a hydraulic press to put the new bearing in, but the bit I imagine to be the hardest is to remove the bearing outer sleeve from the housing if its seize/corroded in.
kcl from Finland managed to do the job, but it does appear that he started in August 2007 and finished in March 2009. I was hoping I might be able to do it and only take the car off the road only for a weekend.

 ;D ;D ;D No, it didn't take two years, only two days! Yes, I'm a lazy writer...  :D The first one was done in 2007 and was alot easier than the other one I did last summer. The problem was this time how to get it tight enough! And still there is a small play, is there supposed to be?

The hub will come off by screwing long bolts to the wheel bolt holes (M12x1,5 thread) and the outer ring should come out with homemade puller (you'll easily figure out what you need when the hub is off). New bearing has to be cool when fitting, then it should be left alone for a while to "heat up" and then cold the hub in. This only applies when the parts are not rusted together. Both times I think (including making the tools etc) net time spent was around six hours... So, all the tools available should not be more that two hours at the carage