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Title: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: P6UL K on 20 January 2011, 00:55:25
On my estate with ones already fitted with electric windows?

Or am i going to be completely wasting my time?

I have window winders at the moment, can i do any checks to see if the loom is already there or will it be a complete ball ache?

I'm assuming if it is then its just a matter of fitting the rear doors and then plug'n'play? Plus the obvious switch change on the drivers door.

Ta  :y
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: Welung666 on 20 January 2011, 08:11:48
Depends if the looms are present at the back door plug. Not a bad job if you have a donor vehicle to swop the parts from.
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: ScaniaV8 on 20 January 2011, 09:19:29
I would also like to replace my 2 rear doors although I have a saloon and not an estate. How easy is it to remove the 2  door pins from the brackets ? anything else to be considered and/or any tips and special tools needed?  Thanks
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: RobG on 20 January 2011, 11:44:41
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On my estate with ones already fitted with electric windows?

Or am i going to be completely wasting my time?

I have window winders at the moment, can i do any checks to see if the loom is already there or will it be a complete ball ache?

I'm assuming if it is then its just a matter of fitting the rear doors and then plug'n'play? Plus the obvious switch change on the drivers door.

Ta  :y
Paul, Check connector on driver`s door window switch, will need to have 23 wires connected. Check connector inside bottom of B post (open front & rear door & prise grommet tube out) will need to have 14 wires. If both have required number it`s just plug & play with a 30A maxi fuse fitted in top R/H corner of cabin fuse box. Obviously if youu haven`t got the required number of wires you willl need the relevant looms. Give me a shout.  :y
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: P6UL K on 20 January 2011, 13:04:35
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On my estate with ones already fitted with electric windows?

Or am i going to be completely wasting my time?

I have window winders at the moment, can i do any checks to see if the loom is already there or will it be a complete ball ache?

I'm assuming if it is then its just a matter of fitting the rear doors and then plug'n'play? Plus the obvious switch change on the drivers door.

Ta  :y
Paul, Check connector on driver`s door window switch, will need to have 23 wires connected. Check connector inside bottom of B post (open front & rear door & prise grommet tube out) will need to have 14 wires. If both have required number it`s just plug & play with a 30A maxi fuse fitted in top R/H corner of cabin fuse box. Obviously if youu haven`t got the required number of wires you willl need the relevant looms. Give me a shout.  :y


Thanks all, especially Rob ;)

I'm off out now to have a look and fit my Irmscher front grill  ;D
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: P6UL K on 20 January 2011, 14:06:31
I've just popped the window switch panel out of the drivers door and it only has (approx) 17 wires?

Will pop the B pillar grommet out and see just for curiosities sake...
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 January 2011, 20:22:42
Paul, done this mod to my ex tvp beastie.

You will need the following:

2 Rear door looms,
2 Rear window motors,
2 Rear door cards,
1 Drivers door loom, (pita to fit, poss easier with door off :-/)
1 4way window switch,
1 30 amp maxi fuse for fuse box under steering wheel.

Easily done in a day. will be easier to do than to find two white doors with the loom in.

While you're in there, you might as well do the rear interior light upgrade. It is all plug and play stuff except the window motors which are riveted to the doors. Don't overlook the fuse either as you'll waste a chunk of your life trying to work out why the windows don't work.

If you want a hand, bring the bits along to the cambelt meet. :y

Al.

p.s. the main body loom should be a complete elite loom, it's just the toys that plug in that are missing. :y
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: P6UL K on 21 January 2011, 02:18:00
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Paul, done this mod to my ex tvp beastie.

You will need the following:

2 Rear door looms,
2 Rear window motors,
2 Rear door cards,
1 Drivers door loom, (pita to fit, poss easier with door off :-/)
1 4way window switch,
1 30 amp maxi fuse for fuse box under steering wheel.

Easily done in a day. will be easier to do than to find two white doors with the loom in.

While you're in there, you might as well do the rear interior light upgrade. It is all plug and play stuff except the window motors which are riveted to the doors. Don't overlook the fuse either as you'll waste a chunk of your life trying to work out why the windows don't work.

If you want a hand, bring the bits along to the cambelt meet. :y

Al.

p.s. the main body loom should be a complete elite loom, it's just the toys that plug in that are missing. :y

Thanks for this Al  8-)

Hmmmm doesn't sound so bad to do then.... RobG can ye help with this parts list?

I already have the rear door cards, just need the switches for them.

I've also fitted the rear interior lights on a temporary basis until i found the loom for them, looks like i'll need:

2 Rear door looms,
2 Rear window motors,
1 Drivers door loom,
1 4way Drivers window switch,
1 30 amp maxi fuse for fuse box under steering wheel.

Time for a wanted list perhaps...?  ;)

I think there'll be enough to do on mine at the cam belt meet lol   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: RobG on 21 January 2011, 08:37:12
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Paul, done this mod to my ex tvp beastie.

You will need the following:

2 Rear door looms,
2 Rear window motors,
2 Rear door cards,
1 Drivers door loom, (pita to fit, poss easier with door off :-/)
1 4way window switch,
1 30 amp maxi fuse for fuse box under steering wheel.

Easily done in a day. will be easier to do than to find two white doors with the loom in.

While you're in there, you might as well do the rear interior light upgrade. It is all plug and play stuff except the window motors which are riveted to the doors. Don't overlook the fuse either as you'll waste a chunk of your life trying to work out why the windows don't work.

If you want a hand, bring the bits along to the cambelt meet. :y

Al.

p.s. the main body loom should be a complete elite loom, it's just the toys that plug in that are missing. :y

Thanks for this Al  8-)

Hmmmm doesn't sound so bad to do then.... RobG can ye help with this parts list?

I already have the rear door cards, just need the switches for them.

I've also fitted the rear interior lights on a temporary basis until i found the loom for them, looks like i'll need:

2 Rear door looms,2 Rear window motors,
1 Drivers door loom, 1 4way Drivers window switch,
1 30 amp maxi fuse for fuse box under steering wheel.

Time for a wanted list perhaps...?  ;)

I think there'll be enough to do on mine at the cam belt meet lol   ;D  ;D
Driver`s......Just the loom entering the door from the multi-plug?
Rears.....same question.........or the loom running behind the sill trim + into the doors?
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 January 2011, 21:43:01
Should just be wiring in doors.  :y
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: P6UL K on 23 January 2011, 23:13:27
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On my estate with ones already fitted with electric windows?

Or am i going to be completely wasting my time?

I have window winders at the moment, can i do any checks to see if the loom is already there or will it be a complete ball ache?

I'm assuming if it is then its just a matter of fitting the rear doors and then plug'n'play? Plus the obvious switch change on the drivers door.

Ta  :y
Paul, Check connector on driver`s door window switch, will need to have 23 wires connected. Check connector inside bottom of B post (open front & rear door & prise grommet tube out) will need to have 14 wires. If both have required number it`s just plug & play with a 30A maxi fuse fitted in top R/H corner of cabin fuse box. Obviously if youu haven`t got the required number of wires you willl need the relevant looms. Give me a shout.  :y

I popped the drivers window switch out of its mounting over the weekend and i only counted (approx) 14 wires?  :-?
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: RobG on 23 January 2011, 23:17:19
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On my estate with ones already fitted with electric windows?

Or am i going to be completely wasting my time?

I have window winders at the moment, can i do any checks to see if the loom is already there or will it be a complete ball ache?

I'm assuming if it is then its just a matter of fitting the rear doors and then plug'n'play? Plus the obvious switch change on the drivers door.

Ta  :y
Paul, Check connector on driver`s door window switch, will need to have 23 wires connected. Check connector inside bottom of B post (open front & rear door & prise grommet tube out) will need to have 14 wires. If both have required number it`s just plug & play with a 30A maxi fuse fitted in top R/H corner of cabin fuse box. Obviously if youu haven`t got the required number of wires you willl need the relevant looms. Give me a shout.  :y

I popped the drivers window switch out of its mounting over the weekend and i only counted (approx) 14 wires?  :-?
You`ll need all this then Paul.
2 Rear door looms,
2 Rear window motors,
2 Rear window switches
1 Drivers door loom,
1 4way window switch,
1 30 amp maxi fuse for fuse box under steering wheel. :y
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: P6UL K on 23 January 2011, 23:38:26
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You`ll need all this then Paul.
2 Rear door looms,
2 Rear window motors,
2 Rear window switches
1 Drivers door loom,
1 4way window switch,
1 30 amp maxi fuse for fuse box under steering wheel. Thumbs Up!

Do you have any of these parts for sale currently Rob?

If not mate, i'll put a wanted thread up.

 :)

Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: P6UL K on 24 January 2011, 13:05:13
Looks like I'm on my way to having this sorted :)  :y
Title: Re: Replacing Rear Doors..
Post by: omegod on 24 January 2011, 19:41:51
The pins can seize resulting in butchery such as this when I changed one of mine ;D


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