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Title: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Norwegian.Omega on 07 February 2011, 21:24:15
does anyone know where to get one?,
I've search the internett but come up with no result,
Thank's for tips and help guys!
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: tunnie on 07 February 2011, 21:29:35
what is a "power filter"?

Not one of these I hope:

(http://www.hspnnews.com/images/uploads/KN_universal_cone2.jpg)
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Omega_Dan on 07 February 2011, 21:34:21
I assume you mean a Panel Filter ?
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Bent valve on 07 February 2011, 21:38:31
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does anyone know where to get one?,
I've search the internett but come up with no result,
Thank's for tips and help guys!
I dont know where to get one, or even what one is, but if it is anything like the picture Tunnie has posted, and judging by his comment, it must be a good thing :y :y
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: tunnie on 07 February 2011, 21:39:34
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does anyone know where to get one?,
I've search the internett but come up with no result,
Thank's for tips and help guys!
I dont know where to get one, or even what one is, but if it is anything like the picture Tunnie has posted, and judging by his comment, it must be a good thing :y :y

Err no far from it  ;)
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Bent valve on 07 February 2011, 21:42:29
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does anyone know where to get one?,
I've search the internett but come up with no result,
Thank's for tips and help guys!
I dont know where to get one, or even what one is, but if it is anything like the picture Tunnie has posted, and judging by his comment, it must be a good thing :y :y

Err no far from it  ;)
No, if you think its crap, it is more than likely good ;D ;D
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Omega_Dan on 07 February 2011, 21:43:39
Dont get a cone filter. If you want a performance filter just get a replacement panel  one

For eg.


http://www.thepipercrossshop.co.uk/paneldisplay.asp?model=588&kit=2727
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: tunnie on 07 February 2011, 21:44:24
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does anyone know where to get one?,
I've search the internett but come up with no result,
Thank's for tips and help guys!
I dont know where to get one, or even what one is, but if it is anything like the picture Tunnie has posted, and judging by his comment, it must be a good thing :y :y

Err no far from it  ;)
No, if you think its crap, it is more than likely good ;D ;D

Simple physics, what does an engine like more? Nice cool air taken from underneath the car, or warm engine bay air?

All these things do is make a nice noise, you actually get a reduction in power.
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Bent valve on 07 February 2011, 21:46:04
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Dont get a cone filter. If you want a performance filter just get a replacement panel  one

For eg.


http://www.thepipercrossshop.co.uk/paneldisplay.asp?model=588&kit=2727
But the cone filter is a POWER filter ;D
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Bent valve on 07 February 2011, 21:50:00
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does anyone know where to get one?,
I've search the internett but come up with no result,
Thank's for tips and help guys!
I dont know where to get one, or even what one is, but if it is anything like the picture Tunnie has posted, and judging by his comment, it must be a good thing :y :y

Err no far from it  ;)
No, if you think its crap, it is more than likely good ;D ;D

Simple physics, what does an engine like more? Nice cool air taken from underneath the car, or warm engine bay air?

All these things do is make a nice noise, you actually get a reduction in power.
I bet its fooking cold under the bonnet of a Norwegian omega :y
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: tunnie on 07 February 2011, 21:52:36
its still cooler underneath, no engine heat
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Norwegian.Omega on 07 February 2011, 22:06:12
hehe! it's right what is on the picture,
I never tryed a panel filter before, does it give any noise?
I'am used to power filter on my other cars, gives a nice sound  :P,
do u really get the same sound from a panel filter?
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Bent valve on 07 February 2011, 22:07:48
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its still cooler underneath, no engine heat
What makes you think Omegas induct air from underneath the car?
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Omega_Dan on 07 February 2011, 22:08:06
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Dont get a cone filter. If you want a performance filter just get a replacement panel  one

For eg.


http://www.thepipercrossshop.co.uk/paneldisplay.asp?model=588&kit=2727
But the cone filter is a POWER filter ;D

Thats what they say but there all blow and no go. Utilising the standard air box and air feed with a performance panel filter is a better way.
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: tunnie on 07 February 2011, 22:09:19
if its sound your after go for it, the V6 do sound quite tasty with them fitted, not sure on 2.2  :y :y

But ask yourself this, why did a manufacture spend £1,000's developing  an in-take system   :)

Stock system will give better performance, but won't sound as nice

Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Omega_Dan on 07 February 2011, 22:10:56
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hehe! it's right what is on the picture,
I never tryed a panel filter before, does it give any noise?
I'am used to power filter on my other cars, gives a nice sound  :P,
do u really get the same sound from a panel filter?

No noise from a panel filter but it will be a better all rounder. Unless you want to spend a few hundred £££ on a closed induction kit as a £10 filter off ebay will lose you a few bhp but give you more noise.
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Norwegian.Omega on 07 February 2011, 22:13:45
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its still cooler underneath, no engine heat

I never had any problems with engine on my others cars,
The powerfilter would still get cold air from a "plastic pipe" that's fittet on the front of the car, but of course it would not get so much cold air as normal, but it doesen't give any danger on the engine  :)
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: tunnie on 07 February 2011, 22:16:24
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its still cooler underneath, no engine heat

I never had any problems with engine on my others cars,
The powerfilter would still get cold air from a "plastic pipe" that's fittet on the front of the car, but of course it would not get so much cold air as normal, but it doesen't give any danger on the engine  :)

Never any danger, will run just fine. Its just stock setup will perform better, I think the fact it *sounds* better, often makes you think its faster  ;D
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Omega_Dan on 07 February 2011, 22:16:51
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its still cooler underneath, no engine heat

I never had any problems with engine on my others cars,
The powerfilter would still get cold air from a "plastic pipe" that's fittet on the front of the car, but of course it would not get so much cold air as normal, but it doesen't give any danger on the engine  :)

From my experience a cone filter with a cold air feed will help but unless its enclosed you will just gain noise and probably lose a few bhp.

If i had 2.0 16v i would want to keep all my BHP rather than gain a boy racer noise. :y ;)
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Norwegian.Omega on 07 February 2011, 22:18:32
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hehe! it's right what is on the picture,
I never tryed a panel filter before, does it give any noise?
I'am used to power filter on my other cars, gives a nice sound  :P,
do u really get the same sound from a panel filter?

No noise from a panel filter but it will be a better all rounder. Unless you want to spend a few hundred £££ on a closed induction kit as a £10 filter off ebay will lose you a few bhp but give you more noise.

hmm, yeah okey, i was searching on the internett and found panel filter, and single powerfilter, it cost me the same price, but i must find out what is the best thing to buy :P
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Norwegian.Omega on 07 February 2011, 22:19:55
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its still cooler underneath, no engine heat

I never had any problems with engine on my others cars,
The powerfilter would still get cold air from a "plastic pipe" that's fittet on the front of the car, but of course it would not get so much cold air as normal, but it doesen't give any danger on the engine  :)

From my experience a cone filter with a cold air feed will help but unless its enclosed you will just gain noise and probably lose a few bhp.

If i had 2.0 16v i would want to keep all my BHP rather than gain a boy racer noise. :y ;)

Yeah i think you have right  :y it's not a big engine so best to keep the bhp's that the engine have :)
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Bent valve on 07 February 2011, 22:20:53
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if its sound your after go for it, the V6 do sound quite tasty with them fitted, not sure on 2.2  :y :y

But ask yourself this, why did a manufacture spend £1,000's developing  an in-take system   :)
Stock system will give better performance, but won't sound as nice

Your'e right! why bother with such things as gas flowed heads, extractor manifolds, or any other aftermarket performance parts when the manufacturer has spent the bare minnium on developing even better parts ::)
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Omega_Dan on 07 February 2011, 22:21:05
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its still cooler underneath, no engine heat

I never had any problems with engine on my others cars,
The powerfilter would still get cold air from a "plastic pipe" that's fittet on the front of the car, but of course it would not get so much cold air as normal, but it doesen't give any danger on the engine  :)

Performance panel filter will give you maybe 1 or 2 more bhp and fully use the standard air intake. Id go for that and just enjoy the sound of that rev happy 16v engine :y
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: tunnie on 07 February 2011, 22:24:28
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its still cooler underneath, no engine heat

I never had any problems with engine on my others cars,
The powerfilter would still get cold air from a "plastic pipe" that's fittet on the front of the car, but of course it would not get so much cold air as normal, but it doesen't give any danger on the engine  :)

Performance panel filter will give you maybe 1 or 2 more bhp and fully use the standard air intake. Id go for that and just enjoy the sound of that rev happy 16v engine :y

Take the throttle body off, give than a good clean, same with breather pipes, along with some quick oil chanages will no doubt give you better increase in performance.
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Norwegian.Omega on 07 February 2011, 22:31:45
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its still cooler underneath, no engine heat

I never had any problems with engine on my others cars,
The powerfilter would still get cold air from a "plastic pipe" that's fittet on the front of the car, but of course it would not get so much cold air as normal, but it doesen't give any danger on the engine  :)

Performance panel filter will give you maybe 1 or 2 more bhp and fully use the standard air intake. Id go for that and just enjoy the sound of that rev happy 16v engine :y

Take the throttle body off, give than a good clean, same with breather pipes, along with some quick oil chanages will no doubt give you better increase in performance.




Thanks for all the good comments! i really appreciate to get good tips! i see that you guys know what you're all talking about  :y
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: tunnie on 07 February 2011, 22:34:28
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its still cooler underneath, no engine heat

I never had any problems with engine on my others cars,
The powerfilter would still get cold air from a "plastic pipe" that's fittet on the front of the car, but of course it would not get so much cold air as normal, but it doesen't give any danger on the engine  :)

Performance panel filter will give you maybe 1 or 2 more bhp and fully use the standard air intake. Id go for that and just enjoy the sound of that rev happy 16v engine :y

Take the throttle body off, give than a good clean, same with breather pipes, along with some quick oil chanages will no doubt give you better increase in performance.




Thanks for all the good comments! i really appreciate to get good tips! i see that you guys know what you're all talking about  :y

Have a read of this guide, has some great pictures:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1207387811

Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: plym ian on 07 February 2011, 22:35:46
put a cone filter on my 2.0 worst sound ever stick with panel filter :)
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Norwegian.Omega on 07 February 2011, 22:46:42
Have a read of this guide, has some great pictures:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1207387811

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Awsome! :y
I've see that i have a new wash project to get started on =)



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put a cone filter on my 2.0 worst sound ever stick with panel filter :)

Yeah after what i've read here, then i gonna go for the panel filter  :)
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 February 2011, 10:05:33
Consider that the same panel filter is fitted to all engines in the Omega range... Including the 3.2 V6, which needs over half as much air again compared to the 2.0. The filter is not going to be the weakest link with a 2.0 engine. I would save your money, TBH.

Kevin
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 February 2011, 10:49:57
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if its sound your after go for it, the V6 do sound quite tasty with them fitted, not sure on 2.2  :y :y

But ask yourself this, why did a manufacture spend £1,000's developing  an in-take system   :)
Stock system will give better performance, but won't sound as nice

Your'e right! why bother with such things as gas flowed heads, extractor manifolds, or any other aftermarket performance parts when the manufacturer has spent the bare minnium on developing even better parts ::)

Cost
Torque spread
Noise

And cone filters are useless - panels are much better.

And cut the pipe off in the airbox - seems to flow better
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: Norwegian.Omega on 09 February 2011, 01:30:14
So what panel filter do you guys recomend?
Does anyone know of an internett site that i can buy this on?

Thanks for the good help  :y
Title: Re: Powerfilter to my 2.0 16v
Post by: I am a Daisy on 09 February 2011, 02:03:16
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its still cooler underneath, no engine heat

I never had any problems with engine on my others cars,
The powerfilter would still get cold air from a "plastic pipe" that's fittet on the front of the car, but of course it would not get so much cold air as normal, but it doesen't give any danger on the engine  :)

Performance panel filter will give you maybe 1 or 2 more bhp and fully use the standard air intake. Id go for that and just enjoy the sound of that rev happy 16v engine :y

Take the throttle body off, give than a good clean, same with breather pipes, along with some quick oil chanages will no doubt give you better increase in performance.

 :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y

Also, what does an oil impregnated filter do to the MAF?  :o