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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: the_omega_man on 06 February 2011, 21:54:56

Title: car doesnt feel right
Post by: the_omega_man on 06 February 2011, 21:54:56
my omega doesnt feel right at the moment, like the steering is really vague and wandery on straight roads, replaced front drop links as they were banging over bumps and changed track rods as it failed mot on these. also when accelerating hard gear changes seem to throw the car around. any ideas? :-?
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: davethediver on 06 February 2011, 21:57:04
Have you ckecked the condition of the wishbone bushes, how old is the rest of the suspension and what state are the tyres in?

Also after the work you have had done how was the geometery set up afterwards :question
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: the_omega_man on 06 February 2011, 22:06:26
got brand new shocks and coils on the rear, new front tyres 6mm tread on rear tyres. havnt had the tracking done yet and havnt checked wishbones there was no advisery on the mot so assumed theyed be ok
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: davethediver on 06 February 2011, 22:17:09
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got brand new shocks and coils on the rear, new front tyres 6mm tread on rear tyres. havnt had the tracking done yet and havnt checked wishbones there was no advisery on the mot so assumed theyed be ok

Assuming you didn't put falken tyres on (just for you chris) i would be checking the wishbone bushes and then looking at having a full geometry setup done at WIM or one of its partners. Don't waste yourmoney on just traking :y
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: SJKOO01 on 06 February 2011, 22:22:02
Without sounding insulting, as it's not meant to come across as that way.

With the car stationary, have you put wheels pointing stright ahead, then move the steering wheel side to side about an inch or two, to see if the front wheels move about the same amount, or if it takes more movement of the steering wheel to make the wheels initially move?

And this link maybe of some use

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1283124735
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: skinwiz on 06 February 2011, 22:35:12
i had exactly the same problem with my motor just before the bad weather last year , i always felt like the car had a rough idea where i wanted it to be but was never quite sure , a friend tracked the car up for me and then we took it out for a quick spin , got back the tracking was waaaaay out . The culprit , wishbones , and it had passed an MOT not long before . I believe the bushes are quite hard to inspect visually , i could tell the difference straight away when the new ones were fitted .
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 06 February 2011, 22:41:24
I am also finding it very difficult to keep mine in a straight line,so i think its time i got the powerflex bushes fitted, ::)
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: the_omega_man on 06 February 2011, 22:49:07
cheers for all the help guys! think il get wishbones replaced and get a full geometry check/adjust. also ive been told on another forum about adjusting steering box?
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: RobG on 06 February 2011, 22:54:27
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cheers for all the help guys! think il get wishbones replaced and get a full geometry check/adjust. also ive been told on another forum about adjusting steering box?
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1268642813 :y
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: Steve Pearce on 07 February 2011, 11:40:35
Its perhaps worth mentioning, i was having a similar sounding issue, car wandering around, seemingly affected by cambering on the road and things. Gave it an MOT as ive only just got it and it failed on the front bush, though when we've inspected it properly the rear one was quite bad also. Currently the whole wishbone is being replaced as its only a few quid more.

Il let you know if that cures it!
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: henryd on 07 February 2011, 11:44:29
if the car feels strange when changing gear I would be looking at rear do-nut bushes as they will make the rear of the car move around
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: the_omega_man on 07 February 2011, 22:44:23
*update* havnt had chance to give the car a good looking over as i work alot of hours, but i noticed on the way home im getting quite bad wheel wobble at around 50mph and the car seems to veer from one side to the other on straight roads. gets really bad in the wind!
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 07 February 2011, 23:27:09
Steering idlers ?
(not going in a straight line)

Wheel weights come off? Wheel bearing?
(wheel wobble at 50 mph)

Just an idea
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: the_omega_man on 08 February 2011, 13:09:57
right ive had time to get under the car and give everything a shake, drivers side wheel was tight no movement or play at all,wishbones seem fine too.

But the passengers side had alot of play from the part in the picture. would this cause all the wondering and vagueness in the steering? also is it cheap enough to replace?
(http://[IMG]http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt308/rct_parkinson/Photo2802-1.jpg)[/img]
(http://[IMG]http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt308/rct_parkinson/Photo2803.jpg)[/img]
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 08 February 2011, 13:46:23
The part you are pointing to does look like a steering idler to me.They can be replaced by yourself,you might want a second pair of helping hands.The maintenance guide below shows you how to do it.If you can afford genuine Vx parts then get them as the pattern parts aren't much cheaper to buy but in the long run will need replacing quicker.

Here's the link how to do it :-

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1268602974
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: SJKOO01 on 08 February 2011, 18:20:41
One or two of us on here have gotten a replacement part from here.  Cheaper than Genuine GM and just as good.

Others on here may put their comments as to if they would get one from here to?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Steering-Idler-Arm-110mm-9195731-Omega-Carlton-/200567716671?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2eb2c47b3f
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: the_omega_man on 08 February 2011, 19:00:34
im glad you recommended this as i bought an idler arm from them this morning!
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: Jimbob on 08 February 2011, 19:16:46
Yup, that is a good Lemforder part, many of us have em, work fine
DONT buy the cheap one they offer, made of plastacine
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: omegabsw on 09 February 2011, 02:21:49
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The part you are pointing to does look like a steering idler to me.They can be replaced by yourself,you might want a second pair of helping hands.The maintenance guide below shows you how to do it.If you can afford genuine Vx parts then get them as the pattern parts aren't much cheaper to buy but in the long run will need replacing quicker.

Here's the link how to do it :-

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1268602974

This is great, thanks!  ;D :y
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 09 February 2011, 22:31:32
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The part you are pointing to does look like a steering idler to me.They can be replaced by yourself,you might want a second pair of helping hands.The maintenance guide below shows you how to do it.If you can afford genuine Vx parts then get them as the pattern parts aren't much cheaper to buy but in the long run will need replacing quicker.

Here's the link how to do it :-

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1268602974

This is great, thanks!  ;D :y

I know it doesn't happen very often but glad I can help (and more than one person)  :o
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: the_omega_man on 12 February 2011, 22:19:33
right changed idler arm, no difference to handling still wanders everywhere seems to be getting worse if anything. whilst i had the wheel off did notice that the inner side of the brake disc is really worn and also makes a whiring noise while driving.
Title: Re: car doesnt feel right
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 February 2011, 10:40:27
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right changed idler arm, no difference to handling still wanders everywhere seems to be getting worse if anything. whilst i had the wheel off did notice that the inner side of the brake disc is really worn and also makes a whiring noise while driving.


How about wishbone bushes?

Might be an idea to replace discs and pads on tradeclub