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Title: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 17:53:38
As header how hard is it to change the bearing on the front hubs, I have the chance to get some good second hand hubs (pic below)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/21/!B8Fgp8!!Wk~$(KGrHqIOKnUEy0QNRfh)BM2Dcr5mGw~~_12.JPG)
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: feeutfo on 24 February 2011, 17:57:26
Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that ist easy enougj to do on the front.
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 18:07:12
Guide in "maintenance"
Wheel off, remove dustcap, wheel back on & lower. 32mm socket & breaker bar on hub nut (320Nm).
Remove both caliper bolts (13mm & 17mm). Remove pads, tie caliper out of the way.
Remove hub carrier bolts (18mm) & disc retaining screw (5mm allen key) & remove disc.
Remove hub assembly (might need whacking)
Fit new hub onto shaft & using 32mm socket on the INNER track, drive hub "home" & fit new nut.
Re-fit disc, caliper etc. (not the dust cap)
Re-fit wheel & lower & torque nut to 320Nm.
Remove wheel & refit dust cap.
Refit wheel......job done.
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 18:07:33
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Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that st easy enougj to do on the front.
Is that to change the complete hub as in the pic??
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 18:08:27
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Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that st easy enougj to do on the front.
Is that to change the complete hub as in the pic??
As my post
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 18:20:14
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Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that st easy enougj to do on the front.
Is that to change the complete hub as in the pic??
As my post
Cheers Rob, I posted the same time as you posted yours, The guide in the Maintence section isn't working I can't see anything in it, No pics or words
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 18:21:38
Try this http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1175890350
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: feeutfo on 24 February 2011, 18:22:20
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Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that st easy enougj to do on the front.
Is that to change the complete hub as in the pic??
If you swap hubs assembly as pictured with baring assembly attached you'll need to re set the camber. Better to remove the baring assembly by undoing the 320 mill nut and swap just those... Unless theres a problem with the hub assembly?.

There is some possible confussion with terminology here.
Baring is pressed in to the metal flange bit the wheels bolt to. It comes as one bit, so thats the baring in its own assembly imo.

Thats bolted to what i call the hub assembly and holds the caliper/wheel and baring/shock in place...

To swap, the shock has to be removed and therefor the camber setting will be lost.


Hope i've described that clearly  :-/ 
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 18:23:14
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Try this http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1175890350
Cheers Rob that link is working :y
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 18:24:41
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Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that st easy enougj to do on the front.
Is that to change the complete hub as in the pic??
If you swap hubs assembly as pictured with baring assembly attached you'll need to re set the camber. Better to remove the baring assembly by undoing the 320 mill nut and swap just those... Unless theres a problem with the hub assembly?.

There is some possible confussion with terminology here.
Baring is pressed in to the metal flange bit the wheels bolt to. It comes as one bit, so thats the baring in its own assembly imo.

Thats bolted to what i call the hub assembly and holds the caliper/wheel and baring/shock in place...

To swap, the shock has to be removed and therefor the camber setting will be lost.


Hope i've described that clearly  :-/ 
Nope. Bearing & hub is one unit
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/OMEGAFORUM/hubbearing.jpg)
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: feeutfo on 24 February 2011, 18:39:39
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Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that st easy enougj to do on the front.
Is that to change the complete hub as in the pic??
If you swap hubs assembly as pictured with baring assembly attached you'll need to re set the camber. Better to remove the baring assembly by undoing the 320 mill nut and swap just those... Unless theres a problem with the hub assembly?.

There is some possible confussion with terminology here.
Baring is pressed in to the metal flange bit the wheels bolt to. It comes as one bit, so thats the baring in its own assembly imo.

Thats bolted to what i call the hub assembly and holds the caliper/wheel and baring/shock in place...

To swap, the shock has to be removed and therefor the camber setting will be lost.


Hope i've described that clearly  :-/ 
Nope. Bearing & hub is one unit
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/OMEGAFORUM/hubbearing.jpg)
Yes we are talking about the same thing, except i'm calliing the hub the bit the baring bolts to...?  ;D

Jims pic shows the ..... Hub (Axle?) On the back?
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 19:05:37
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Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that st easy enougj to do on the front.
Is that to change the complete hub as in the pic??
If you swap hubs assembly as pictured with baring assembly attached you'll need to re set the camber. Better to remove the baring assembly by undoing the 320 mill nut and swap just those... Unless theres a problem with the hub assembly?.

There is some possible confussion with terminology here.
Baring is pressed in to the metal flange bit the wheels bolt to. It comes as one bit, so thats the baring in its own assembly imo.

Thats bolted to what i call the hub assembly and holds the caliper/wheel and baring/shock in place...

To swap, the shock has to be removed and therefor the camber setting will be lost.


Hope i've described that clearly  :-/ 
Nope. Bearing & hub is one unit
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/OMEGAFORUM/hubbearing.jpg)
Yes we are talking about the same thing, except i'm calliing the hub the bit the baring bolts to...?  ;D

Jims pic shows the ..... Hub (Axle?) On the back?
Stub axle Chris ;)
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: feeutfo on 24 February 2011, 19:17:34
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Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that st easy enougj to do on the front.
Is that to change the complete hub as in the pic??
If you swap hubs assembly as pictured with baring assembly attached you'll need to re set the camber. Better to remove the baring assembly by undoing the 320 mill nut and swap just those... Unless theres a problem with the hub assembly?.

There is some possible confussion with terminology here.
Baring is pressed in to the metal flange bit the wheels bolt to. It comes as one bit, so thats the baring in its own assembly imo.

Thats bolted to what i call the hub assembly and holds the caliper/wheel and baring/shock in place...

To swap, the shock has to be removed and therefor the camber setting will be lost.


Hope i've described that clearly  :-/ 
Nope. Bearing & hub is one unit
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/OMEGAFORUM/hubbearing.jpg)
Yes we are talking about the same thing, except i'm calliing the hub the bit the baring bolts to...?  ;D

Jims pic shows the ..... Hub (Axle?) On the back?
Stub axle Chris ;)
yes that ;D
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 19:29:54
I'm not sure if its the correct picture as I borrowed it from ebay, But its listed as the front 5 stud bearing carrier + abs sensor

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 20:38:38
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I'm not sure if its the correct picture as I borrowed it from ebay, But its listed as the front 5 stud bearing carrier + abs sensor

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749
Is that what you`re buying
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 21:09:22
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I'm not sure if its the correct picture as I borrowed it from ebay, But its listed as the front 5 stud bearing carrier + abs sensor

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749
Is that what you`re buying
Yes!!! :-?
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Andy H on 24 February 2011, 21:18:42
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Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that st easy enougj to do on the front.
Is that to change the complete hub as in the pic??
If you swap hubs assembly as pictured with baring assembly attached you'll need to re set the camber. Better to remove the baring assembly by undoing the 320 mill nut and swap just those... Unless theres a problem with the hub assembly?.

There is some possible confussion with terminology here.
Baring is pressed in to the metal flange bit the wheels bolt to. It comes as one bit, so thats the baring in its own assembly imo.

Thats bolted to what i call the hub assembly and holds the caliper/wheel and baring/shock in place...

To swap, the shock has to be removed and therefore the camber setting will be lost.


Hope i've described that clearly  :-/ 
I don't know the history of this car but the camber setting is probably wrong anyway ::)

I would swap the whole hub + stub axle assembly and then go to WIM to have the suspension set up properly.
[edit]or (as Glasgow is even further from Chesham than I am) I would do what I did earlier this year and use a 6 foot straight edge and a roofers square to measure and set the camber manually[/edit]
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 21:25:05
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I'm not sure if its the correct picture as I borrowed it from ebay, But its listed as the front 5 stud bearing carrier + abs sensor

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749
Is that what you`re buying
Yes!!! :-?
Could be years old. Complete new hub is only about £40, for the sake of £15..........
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 21:26:22
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Hub nut is 320 nm so will need holding very firmly to undo if off the car!

Apart from that st easy enougj to do on the front.
Is that to change the complete hub as in the pic??
If you swap hubs assembly as pictured with baring assembly attached you'll need to re set the camber. Better to remove the baring assembly by undoing the 320 mill nut and swap just those... Unless theres a problem with the hub assembly?.

There is some possible confussion with terminology here.
Baring is pressed in to the metal flange bit the wheels bolt to. It comes as one bit, so thats the baring in its own assembly imo.

Thats bolted to what i call the hub assembly and holds the caliper/wheel and baring/shock in place...

To swap, the shock has to be removed and therefore the camber setting will be lost.


Hope i've described that clearly  :-/ 
I don't know the history of this car but the camber setting is probably wrong anyway ::)

I would swap the whole hub + stub axle assembly and then go to WIM to have the suspension set up properly.
[edit]or (as Glasgow is even further from Chesham than I am) I would do what I did earlier this year and use a 6 foot straight edge and a roofers square to measure and set the camber manually[/edit]
I'm in Gloucester working at the moment.
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 21:30:09
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I'm not sure if its the correct picture as I borrowed it from ebay, But its listed as the front 5 stud bearing carrier + abs sensor

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749
Is that what you`re buying
Yes!!! :-?
Could be years old. Complete new hub is only about £40, for the sake of £15..........
Genuine Part???

As I asked the local dealer yesterday and was quoted over £100 trade
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 21:30:44
http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/
Front wheel bearing kit is CDK603 app. £40 inclusive
Contitech......decent brand :y
Don`t think they`re listed on website. Phone number for mail order is 0115 9835280
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 21:32:18
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I'm not sure if its the correct picture as I borrowed it from ebay, But its listed as the front 5 stud bearing carrier + abs sensor

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749
Is that what you`re buying
Yes!!! :-?
Could be years old. Complete new hub is only about £40, for the sake of £15..........
Genuine Part???

As I asked the local dealer yesterday and was quoted over £100 trade
Probably sussed out you`re north of the border ;D ;D
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 21:34:53
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I'm not sure if its the correct picture as I borrowed it from ebay, But its listed as the front 5 stud bearing carrier + abs sensor

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749
Is that what you`re buying
Yes!!! :-?
Could be years old. Complete new hub is only about £40, for the sake of £15..........
Genuine Part???

As I asked the local dealer yesterday and was quoted over £100 trade
Probably sussed out you`re north of the border ;D ;D
That was in Gloucester
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 21:36:03
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I'm not sure if its the correct picture as I borrowed it from ebay, But its listed as the front 5 stud bearing carrier + abs sensor

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749
Is that what you`re buying
Yes!!! :-?
Could be years old. Complete new hub is only about £40, for the sake of £15..........
Genuine Part???

As I asked the local dealer yesterday and was quoted over £100 trade
Probably sussed out you`re north of the border ;D ;D
That was in Gloucester
Your accent ain`t
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 21:39:34
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I'm not sure if its the correct picture as I borrowed it from ebay, But its listed as the front 5 stud bearing carrier + abs sensor

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OMEGA-O-S-5-STUD-HUB-BEARING-CARRIER-ABS-SENSOR-94-03-/110609254217?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c0d34749
Is that what you`re buying
Yes!!! :-?
Could be years old. Complete new hub is only about £40, for the sake of £15..........
Genuine Part???

As I asked the local dealer yesterday and was quoted over £100 trade
Probably sussed out you`re north of the border ;D ;D
That was in Gloucester
Your accent ain`t
True, the guy behind the counter was alright he gave me trade discount on the thermostat I bought
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 21:42:22
Still wouldn`t go for that 2nd hand hub though :P
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 21:48:32
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Still wouldn`t go for that 2nd hand hub though :P
True, it's just that I'm passing there tomorrow, so I could have checked it out first as the front bearing is started to grind.
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: RobG on 24 February 2011, 21:52:55
Won`t have a decent idea of any bearing wear until it`s actually mounted on the car
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Andy B on 24 February 2011, 21:58:57
My way was the easiest. Buy hub from dealer & then pay local garage to fit it.  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 22:01:26
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My way was the easiest. Buy hub from dealer & then pay local garage to fit it.  ;) ;) ;)
How much was the parts??
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Elite Pete on 24 February 2011, 22:04:21
I wouldn't buy second hand. Get one of the Contitech ones, they're good and they are easy enough to fit. Infact if you passing drop in, its only half an hour a side to do and i've got a torque wrench up to the job as well ;)
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 22:09:11
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I wouldn't buy second hand. Get one of the Contitech ones, they're good and they are easy enough to fit. Infact if you passing drop in, its only half an hour a side to do and i've got a torque wrench up to the job as well ;)
Cheers Pete but I drove down the M6 on Sunday but I might stop of on the back up :)
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Elite Pete on 24 February 2011, 22:10:10
I'm only 10 minutes from Junction 18 ;)
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Andy B on 24 February 2011, 22:13:45
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My way was the easiest. Buy hub from dealer & then pay local garage to fit it.  ;) ;) ;)
How much was the parts??

It was a couple of years ago, but I think your quote of something over £100 sounds about right.
Title: Re: How Hard Is It To Change Front Wheel Bearings?????
Post by: Jim on 24 February 2011, 22:14:52
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I'm only 10 minutes from Junction 18 ;)
Cool, I don't know when I'm driving back up but it may not be for a couple weeks