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Title: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: Malcolm_D on 02 April 2011, 09:40:28
Is anyone aware of a guide on the forum, or elsewhere, for tackling this job? I am now convinced that this is where my 'clacking' noise is coming from when cold thanks to all previous advice & suggestions.  :y
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: amba on 02 April 2011, 09:43:46
There was a pretty comprehensive write up done about 6 months ago by Geoff ?? so have a search back last year.

I will also have a look and see if I can locate it.
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: dad1uk on 02 April 2011, 10:23:00
I think this is what you are after.....
Good luck, it's not a nice job! :o

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1261581517/0
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: amba on 02 April 2011, 10:32:57
Thats for the really nasty side..N/S.....not the O/S
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: chrisdb on 02 April 2011, 18:36:03
I did not create a guide unfortunately but I have done this side too if you need any specific help. The worst part for me was trying to undo the bolts that hold the water pipe at the back of the engine. Skinny fingers help here!
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: amba on 02 April 2011, 19:01:50
Isn,t access ok with plenum/inlet manifold removed.

I had understood that with the coolant bridge undone the two bolts that hold the coolant transfer pipe to the back of the head was quite accessable.

Could you also give me an idea of what length of extension bar is needed to get onto the exhaust downpipe/manifold copper nuts assuming car is on axle stands and working from below.
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: chrisdb on 02 April 2011, 19:36:06
The coolant bridge is very easy to remove but there is a pipe exposed once the bridge is removed. You need to remove two pipes that go from the oil filter housing to the oil cooler and this will allow you to more easliy access the nuts holding the coolant pipe that comes out of the back of the engine. These are areally small (I think 8mm spanner. This pipe comes out of the rear of the block and around the side above the manifold.

I used a 20" extention for the downpipe nuts and it was very easy to access with the car on jacks/ramps.
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: amba on 02 April 2011, 20:27:41
Thanks chrisdb for additional info.

I assume the oil feed pipes from the oil filter are then resealed using "doughty washers".Do these just release from the oil cooler and move out of the way or is it necessary for them to be released at the oil filter end aswell ?

Think I read a previous thread which mentioned the 2 bolts holding the coolant transfer pipe to the back of the engine as being 8mm so I have that base covered .

Will look on fleabay for a 500mm 1/2 extension bar then .
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: JasonH on 02 April 2011, 21:50:08
The notes I used, although I didn't write them:

By MarkDTM

My approach to this job is.
 
Drain the coolant
 
Jack the car up and remove the two front pipe to manifold nuts (should be easy on yours as it uses the later helicoiled nuts) and remove the bolt that secures the front pipe to the gearbox bracket. Pop the front pipe of the manifold studs (takes a bit of wiggling and sometimes requires a foot on the centre section silencer to get it off) and then tie the front pipe to the gearbox to give it some support before putting the car back on the floor.
 
Strip the inlet manifolds off and place to one side, no need to remove the lower manifold for this job (which saves th pain or removing 12 thread locked bolts!).
 
Now disconnect the pipes to the heater matrix assembly (fast fit connectors, press the tabs and slide the collar back, twist the connectors a few time to free them off), disconnect the vaccum pipe that goes to the bypass valve  and disconnect the pipes that attach to the coolant bridge and main coolant pipe. Now remove the bypass valve and all its associated pipe work.
 
This gives a nice amount of space to work in.
 
Removal of the header tank (again easy)  gives more room to work in.
 
Disconnect the main radiator to coolant pipe hose at the front left of the engine and disconnect the air injection rubber coupling on the left side of the engine.
 
Remove the bolt on the 1-3-5 bank lifting eye that secures the coolant pipe to the engine and then remove the lifting eye (single bolt again)
 
Now, using a short extension on a ratchet, remove the two torx bolts (think there e12 but could be wrong) that secure the coolant pipe to the back of the block, for the right hand one you might have to ease the oil cooler pipes out the way a little.
 
The coolant pipe should now come out (honestly, it does, takes a bit of manouvering!).
 
Now spray all the heatshield bolts with penetrating fluid and go and have a cuppa.
 
Now remove the heat shields starting with the upper one, then the air injection pipe and finally the lower one remembering that there is a securing bolt right at the rear of the manifold to the right of the downpipe connection.
 
Now pop the manifold off, again shouldn't be an issue given the age of the engine as again it has the later studs.
 
Clean the head face well and check the manifold carefully for cracks (it seems to be only the Police that manage to crack them from my experience) before cleaning the face of it and checking its flat, I use a belt sander to flatten them off a bit (makes cleaning easier to). I also use a tap and die to clean all the threads up.
 
Then re-assembly is reverse of removal, I use a small wipe of silicon (cam cover sealant or similar) on the rubber O ring for the coolant pipe just to hold it safely in place when re-fitting.
 
You also want to clean the rear block mating surface before re-fitting the pipe.... 

Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: JasonH on 02 April 2011, 21:51:06
And the shopping list (prices probably well out of date now):

                                               Part no.         Price 
Exhaust downpipe nuts M10 x 2      90570845      approx £1.50 each (have helicoil insert)
Manifold gasket                        24416110            £5.91
Manifold nuts x 7                  11082413            £0.26 each
Manifold studs x 7                  90106924            £0.45 each
Coolant pipe O-ring                  9128362            £1.46
Front pipe gasket                  90499289            £4.55 each (rip off)
Secondary Air Injection gaskets x 2            90467427            £0.40 each

Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: JasonH on 02 April 2011, 21:53:22
On the extension bar to undo the manifold to downpipe nuts - I think I just used the long+short in my 1/2" set and that was OK.
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: Elite Pete on 02 April 2011, 22:39:16
I've never undone the oil cooler pipes on all the manifold gaskets i've done ;)
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: geoffr70 on 02 April 2011, 23:34:42
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I've never undone the oil cooler pipes on all the manifold gaskets i've done ;)

I'd highly recommend it to someone who has never done this job before though.
Title: Re: Drivers side exhaust manifold removal V6
Post by: Malcolm_D on 03 April 2011, 10:56:26
Fantastic help, as always.  :y The trouble is you are making it sound like such a pig of a job that you are putting me off! :o :o
Ah well, take a deep breath and go for it, after all what can really go wrong! ::)