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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: waspy on 25 January 2008, 22:46:13
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I was admiring a truckers Diesel tank the other day & i asked him what the cappacity was, yep 750 litres. I just worked out how many pennies that would take to fill at my local garage- £816.00, WHAAAAT.
I'll never moan about filling the Mig again ::) ::) ::)
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Filled up today after a week of comuting, £44! Well happy, used to put £52 a week in my A4 1.8T!
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Filled up today after a week of comuting, £44! Well happy, used to put £52 a week in my A4 1.8T!
Nice one chap :y :y
Allways good to have a car you like & it works out cheaper to run than the previous one :) :)
So far i'm well pleased with my DTi. :y :y
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You can't go wrong with a mig! :y
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You can't go wrong with a mig! :y
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Used to work on these things....
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/hotel21/BWdiesel.gif)
Roughly 35000 litres used per day to cover about 300 miles....
That works out at about 70 YARDS to the gallon at full sea speed.... :'(
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Used to work on these things....
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/hotel21/BWdiesel.gif)
Roughly 35000 litres used per day to cover about 300 miles....
That works out at about 70 YARDS to the gallon at full sea speed.... :'(
I saw a tv prog about these/this, i think was the massive machines series. Yes i was very impressed :) :)
Aren't they Japanese or sumat :question
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It amazes me that they just look like scaled up car lumps. :o
Whereas I have a phone in the garage so Mrs.KW can phone me when I'm fiddling with engines, having one in the crankcase... 8-)
Kevin
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Used to work on these things....
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/hotel21/BWdiesel.gif)
Roughly 35000 litres used per day to cover about 300 miles....
That works out at about 70 YARDS to the gallon at full sea speed.... :'(
Yeah ... but how many HP and how many tonnes was it shifting .. I'll bet the power to weight ratio was fairly poor !!!
:)
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Jeez! Now thats a motor!
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Used to work on these things....
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/hotel21/BWdiesel.gif)
Roughly 35000 litres used per day to cover about 300 miles....
That works out at about 70 YARDS to the gallon at full sea speed.... :'(
I saw a tv prog about these/this, i think was the massive machines series. Yes i was very impressed :) :)
Aren't they Japanese or sumat :question
Japanese? Far from it. Depends on where the ships are built.....
B & W - Burmeister and Wain, Sulzer and, if you fancy a real engineering challenge, the British opposed piston Doxfords.... http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Marine/doxford.htm
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No wonder they call it an engine ROOM, huh?
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Used to work on these things....
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/hotel21/BWdiesel.gif)
Roughly 35000 litres used per day to cover about 300 miles....
That works out at about 70 YARDS to the gallon at full sea speed.... :'(
Yeah ... but how many HP and how many tonnes was it shifting .. I'll bet the power to weight ratio was fairly poor !!!
:)
Heres who I worked for. Click the links to see the ship horsepower etc..... These were really the small ships and not the international supertanker types that we often read about....
http://www.scottishshipmanagement.com/ships.html
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Crikey how big are the fuel tanks then?
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;D
BIG!
;D
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It amazes me that they just look like scaled up car lumps. :o
Whereas I have a phone in the garage so Mrs.KW can phone me when I'm fiddling with engines, having one in the crankcase... 8-)
Kevin
They are.... Simply big bits for little hands, if you remember the plastic meccano adds of years ago....
Engineering principles are exactly the same. Engineering tolerances are equally fine, in some cases more so. Cylinder head to liner joint was face to face - no head gasket!!
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Did it have a manual or automatic box? ;D
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;D
BIG!
;D
Bet you get a few shell point when you fill one up, or in the good old days a rather truck full of glass tumblers. ;D
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Did it have a manual or automatic box? ;D
Direct drive....
110 revs flat out, 35 revs dead slow, and all points in between....
Both speeds, either forward or astern. If you wanted to go backwards, it was like the old DAF Variomatic adds....
Forwards for forwards, backwards for back. Its as simple as that....
Engines were two stroke diesels, not 4 stroke like cars, and, once the timing gear was adjusted to suit for fuel injection etc, ran just as quickly and as powerfully astern as ahead.... ;)
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;D
BIG!
;D
Bet you get a few shell point when you fill one up, or in the good old days a rather truck full of glass tumblers. ;D
No tumblers or soup bowls, lot loads of Dinky cars though!
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... and we're always told piston engines are so inefficient. I always thought that they'd use gas turbines / steam turbines or something. I guess if oil is a convenient fuel and you need output at a low speed it makes sense.
I guess the specific fuel consumption is much better than a car engine at that scale, especially if 2 stroke.
Kevin
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Apologies for the thread hijack, by the way!! ;D ;D ;D
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MV Baron Inchcape
Deadweight = 23,700 Ton
Power = 12,000 bhp
hp/ton = 0.506
Vauxhall Omega 2.5 V6 ... 167 bhp
Max Weight = 2.1 tonnes
hp/ton = 79.5
so actually the meega wins ...... (from a very narrow viewpoint !! ) :)
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... and we're always told piston engines are so inefficient. I always thought that they'd use gas turbines / steam turbines or something. I guess if oil is a convenient fuel and you need output at a low speed it makes sense.
I guess the specific fuel consumption is much better than a car engine at that scale, especially if 2 stroke.
Kevin
The engines used marine diesel for manouevering into and out of port. Equivelant is diesel dirtier than used in trawlers and similar. Full sea speed fuel was bunker oil. Same consistancy as Fowlers Treacle that required to be heated to some incredible temp to allow it to go through the fuel valve (injector) with the same spray pattern as a car or lorry engine...
It got friggin' hot, I can tell you..... :o
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;D
BIG!
;D
Bet you get a few shell point when you fill one up, or in the good old days a rather truck full of glass tumblers. ;D
No tumblers or soup bowls, lot loads of Dinky cars though!
No, Smurfs! :D
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MV Baron Inchcape
Deadweight = 23,700 Ton
Power = 12,000 bhp
hp/ton = 0.506
Vauxhall Omega 2.5 V6 ... 167 bhp
Max Weight = 2.1 tonnes
hp/ton = 79.5
so actually the meega wins ...... (from a very narrow viewpoint !! ) :)
So your saying the Omega can out drag a large ocean going vessel then.
Well on paper at least. ;D
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MV Baron Inchcape
Deadweight = 23,700 Ton
Power = 12,000 bhp
hp/ton = 0.506
Vauxhall Omega 2.5 V6 ... 167 bhp
Max Weight = 2.1 tonnes
hp/ton = 79.5
so actually the meega wins ...... (from a very narrow viewpoint !! ) :)
But if you wanted to transport 10 000 tonnes of bullsh!t, how many return journeys would the 'Meega need? ;D
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I like the idea of YARDS per gallon, reminds me of my old mk2 granny. :)
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MV Baron Inchcape
Deadweight = 23,700 Ton
Power = 12,000 bhp
hp/ton = 0.506
Vauxhall Omega 2.5 V6 ... 167 bhp
Max Weight = 2.1 tonnes
hp/ton = 79.5
so actually the meega wins ...... (from a very narrow viewpoint !! ) :)
But if you wanted to transport 10 000 tonnes of bullsh!t, how many return journeys would the 'Meega need? ;D
Surely the vxon website will fit on a single hard drive ??? :)
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, handbags at dawn? :o ;D :y
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;D ;D ;D
Talking of bullsh!t, one cargo carried from New Zealand to, i think, Saudi, was live sheep.
There was a minimal cargo in the holds then wooden deck structures were built to house the sheep with load sof clearance for the accumulated sh!t from a 3 or 4 week journey towards the sun...
Some of the beasts had to get some time in the engine room to warm up and recuperate before ritual slaughter on arrival at Jedda or where ever....
It really stank when going into the wind!! ;D
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Used to work on these things....
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/hotel21/BWdiesel.gif)
Roughly 35000 litres used per day to cover about 300 miles....
That works out at about 70 YARDS to the gallon at full sea speed.... :'(
i dont suppose my Argos 20pc tool kit would me much use on that [smiley=grin.gif] beast then
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i usually spend around £150 to £170 every 4 days or so filling up the 200litre tank on the daf 45 i drive around in for comet....so £60 quid a month aint too bad i suppose for my miggy...might even be cheaper if i buy a diesel motor for me self.... ::)
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I read that as DAF 44 the first time round ::) thought they'd be a bit impractical and not that thirsty...
I did a week of work experience at BBC Ealing Green film studios when I was at school. Was in their electronics department fixing Nagra tape recorders and the like.
At the end of the first day I put my mug on the shelf above my bench and went home..
Came in the next morning and the cup was under the opposite end of the shelf, smashed. >:(
Couple of the other guys started laughing about the newbie putting his cup on the shelf so I asked what the joke was. They took me down to the basement where there were two rather large ship engines. We're not talking Hotel21 size here but they were the biggest engines I've ever seen. Probably 12 or 16 cylinders inline, 100 feet long with huge tappets bobbing up and down on top.
Turns out the studio had these installed to power lighting generators back in the good old days and they'd never got round to getting a decent mains feed installed so they were still in use.
.. and the vibration was such that anything that wasn't phyically tied down in that building had a habit of wandering off if you didn't keep an eye on it!
Kevin
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I read that as DAF 44 the first time round ::) thought they'd be a bit impractical and not that thirsty...
I did a week of work experience at BBC Ealing Green film studios when I was at school. Was in their electronics department fixing Nagra tape recorders and the like.
At the end of the first day I put my mug on the shelf above my bench and went home..
Came in the next morning and the cup was under the opposite end of the shelf, smashed. >:(
Couple of the other guys started laughing about the newbie putting his cup on the shelf so I asked what the joke was. They took me down to the basement where there were two rather large ship engines. We're not talking Hotel21 size here but they were the biggest engines I've ever seen. Probably 12 or 16 cylinders inline, 100 feet long with huge tappets bobbing up and down on top.
Turns out the studio had these installed to power lighting generators back in the good old days and they'd never got round to getting a decent mains feed installed so they were still in use.
.. and the vibration was such that anything that wasn't phyically tied down in that building had a habit of wandering off if you didn't keep an eye on it!
Kevin
Bit like a BMW diesel then ::)
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Used to work on these things....
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/hotel21/BWdiesel.gif)
Roughly 35000 litres used per day to cover about 300 miles....
That works out at about 70 YARDS to the gallon at full sea speed.... :'(
:o :o
mega machines..