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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: geoffr70 on 04 May 2011, 13:49:40

Title: Rear springs
Post by: geoffr70 on 04 May 2011, 13:49:40
Hi all. My Elite just failed its test on broken n/s/r coil spring. I was under there a few weeks back and all seemed ok! I'm just going to check again in a few mins.

Anyway, where is the best place to get decent new springs? Dealers? I have a trade card.

Could I get firmer ones/MV6 springs and fit them whilst retaining self levelling? Or would this cause issues?

Thanks all.
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: geoffr70 on 04 May 2011, 14:07:27
Just checked tc website! If I've got the right ones they're £199.59

Is it these what I'm after?

2.0 8/16v saloon, with auto self leveling, to '97 90271117 £288.00 £244.80 £174.25

 
Saloon with auto self leveling, from W1081185 90295666 £299.00 £254.57 £181.49

 
2.5 V6 Saloon, with auto self leveling, to '97, ident. LC 90295669 £388.00 £332.13 £256.08

 
2.5TD Saloon, with auto self leveling, to '97, ident. LC 90295669 £388.00 £332.13 £256.08

 
3.0 V6 Saloon, with auto self leveling, to '97, ident. LC 90295669 £388.00 £332.13 £256.08

 
2.0 8/16v Saloon, exc. auto self leveling, to '97, ident. LG 90487519 £306.00 £260.99 £185.64

 
2.5 V6 Saloon, exc. auto self leveling, to '97, ident. LH 90487520 £329.00 £280.60 £199.59

 
3.0 V6 Saloon, exc. auto self leveling, to '97, ident. LH 90487520 £329.00 £280.60 £199.59

 
Saloon with auto self leveling, from '98 to W1081184, ident. LH 90487520 £329.00 £280.60 £199.59  
2.5TD Saloon exc. auto self leveling, to '97, ident. LH 90487520 £329.00 £280.60 £199.59

 
Estate exc. auto self leveling, to '97, ident. LJ 90487521 £275.00 £233.75 £166.38

 
Saloon exc. Sport, exc, auto self leveling, from '98, ident. LP 90542359 £307.00 £261.44 £185.53

 
Estate exc. Sport, exc. auto self leveling, from '98, ident. LQ 90542360 £280.00 £238.00 £169.41

 
Estate with lowered sports chassis, with removable towing attachment, from '00, ident. LR 90542361 £280.00 £238.00 £169.41

 
Estate with auto self leveling, from '98, ident. LR 90542361 £280.00 £238.00 £169.41

 
Saloon, Sport exc. Removable towing attachment, from '00, ident. LU 9193196 £235.00 £200.43 £142.56

 
Saloon, Sport with removable towing attachment, from '00, ident. LW 9193197 £236.00 £200.60 £142.79

 
Estate with lowered sports chassis, exc. removable towing attachment, from '00, ident. LX 9193198 £281.00 £239.67 £170.47

 
Thanks peeps
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: tunnie on 04 May 2011, 14:14:47
get KYB about £40 each  :y
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: RobG on 04 May 2011, 14:14:54
Fit standard springs with no ill effect or use KYB for self-levellers.
KYB part # RJ6227
http://www.kayaba.co.uk/catalogue.asp
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: geoffr70 on 04 May 2011, 14:22:00
Thanks Tunnie and Rob, I'd just KYB. Anything to save some money haha :y

Can you actually buy from that website though? I looked but can't seem to. Either you can, or I''m thick?
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: TheBoy on 04 May 2011, 14:47:25
SAF (buypartsby) will sell KYB online :y
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: amba on 04 May 2011, 15:00:25
I ordered a set from Buypartsby about 8 weeks ago.

Including delivery they were around £85 and delivery was within 2 days.

To be safe I contacted them by phone and did the deal that way.
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: geoffr70 on 04 May 2011, 19:10:36
Thanks peeps! I've ordered some of the KYB springs from local supplier, they're coming in tomorrow so will pick them up after 2. Not as cheap as £85, these are £108, oh well you win some you lose some!

Daft Q - I will need spring compressors right? The very helpful guide from MDTM doesn't mention them, but I take it that's because it's obvious and I'm being a gimp?

How long will it take if I start at 3? Will I be tucked up in bed with by 9 o'clock with my bombardier (beer that is)? - I've never changed springs before.

Thanks :y
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: TheBoy on 04 May 2011, 19:14:22
Spring compressors not usually required (not really room anyway)...

...that said, I've failed twice to replace springs on MV6 - but I think that is the new rear bushes not allowing sufficient flex...
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: geoffr70 on 04 May 2011, 19:26:18
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Spring compressors not usually required (not really room anyway)...

...that said, I've failed twice to replace springs on MV6 - but I think that is the new rear bushes not allowing sufficient flex...

Thanks TB, I replaced my rear bushes 6 months or so ago. Hopefully it'll be ok! thanks again! :y
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: amba on 04 May 2011, 19:54:35
When I replaced mine I found that with the diff lowered and supported on jack I couldn,t get the old springs out.

Found it best to fit a compressor on eacn side of the spring and just wind it up a bit..that then allowed the spring to come out nicely and replaced the new ones in the same way.The guide does say no spring compressor but I couldnt see how they would come out otherwise.In truth I hadn,t disconnected the exhaust hanger rubbers so that may have helped but ,spring squeezers did the job a treat.

From memory it took about 1 hour per side,but I tend to go slowly and methodically when doing jobs for the first time.Best of luck..it is a straight forward task. 
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: Big_Al on 04 May 2011, 20:12:33
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Thanks peeps! I've ordered some of the KYB springs from local supplier, they're coming in tomorrow so will pick them up after 2. Not as cheap as £85, these are £108, oh well you win some you lose some!

Daft Q - I will need spring compressors right? The very helpful guide from MDTM doesn't mention them, but I take it that's because it's obvious and I'm being a gimp?

How long will it take if I start at 3?
Will I be tucked up in bed with by 9 o'clock with my bombardier (beer that is)? - I've never changed sprin
gs before.

Thanks :y

Just changed mine a couple of weeks ago , as Amba says,  should only take a couple of hours.  Would advise you to do the offside first. just follow the guide on here, you may need someone to just push down with their foot on the rear hub assembly for the final bit of clearance to get springs in & out.

You may have to release the rear exhaust rubbers to get nearside out & back in. But you should not need spring compressors.

Good luck -  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: mrgreen on 04 May 2011, 20:12:57
yes i did mine and a simple job about an hour for the first side and three quarters for the second but then i did my shocks >:( pita of a job getting the old ones off, oh well that's the payoff for salted roads in winter ;D but don't listen to me i'm having many a nightmare over my rear suspension at the moment!
Title: Re: Rear springs
Post by: geoffr70 on 04 May 2011, 20:32:37
Ok thanks amba, Al and mrgreen, I'll take those tips on board, getting some spring compressors off my mate.