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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: theolodian on 27 January 2008, 00:16:04
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/7206570.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/7206570.stm
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Livid!!!!
That is appalling and would not happen in this country, it seems that they were treated worse than ‘young offenders’ and typical to suggest that they must have been abused to end up in an orphanage.
These girls needed a sympathetic approach to their situation and should have been fostered, there should have been no restriction on seeing their mother, unless for medical reasons.
And this is a ‘Free Country’ Causes more problems in the world than anyone else, in the name of freedom. Stop, political rant feeling, not appropriate. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Unbelieveable. Had the US not already been off my holiday list due to the farce I experienced in immigration last time, it would now. >:(
Kevin
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/7206570.stm
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Livid!!!!
That is appalling and would not happen in this country, it seems that they were treated worse than ‘young offenders’ and typical to suggest that they must have been abused to end up in an orphanage.
These girls needed a sympathetic approach to their situation and should have been fostered, there should have been no restriction on seeing their mother, unless for medical reasons.
And this is a ‘Free Country’ Causes more problems in the world than anyone else, in the name of freedom. Stop, political rant feeling, not appropriate. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It might surprise you what could happen here, like 42 days in jail without being accused of a crime, but this is beyond the pale. Not like Gordon Beige is going to do anything about it though. >:(
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/7206570.stm
>:( >:( >:(
Livid!!!!
That is appalling and would not happen in this country, it seems that they were treated worse than ‘young offenders’ and typical to suggest that they must have been abused to end up in an orphanage.
These girls needed a sympathetic approach to their situation and should have been fostered, there should have been no restriction on seeing their mother, unless for medical reasons.
And this is a ‘Free Country’ Causes more problems in the world than anyone else, in the name of freedom. Stop, political rant feeling, not appropriate. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It might surprise you what could happen here, like 42 days in jail without being accused of a crime, but this is beyond the pale. Not like Gordon Beige is going to do anything about it though. >:(
Can't comment with any knowledge on that, but I am not surprised.
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if this happened to middle east people I could expect that..
but for British people .. :o
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stuck for words.......................
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>:(That is rather' outrageous. Not only were these girls not allowed to stay with their Mother but they were seperated from eachother???
Whoever is responsible for this.........
For once words fail me. >:( >:( >:(
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
And they say they are an 'advanced' country! >:(
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
on the paper..
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
And they say they are an 'advanced' country! >:(
Some parts certainly aren't, but this was NYC?!
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
on the paper..
Totally agree, I simply do not trust them, they seem to think they are better than anyone else and that their views and ideas should be shared by everyone, and we fall for it time after time.
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
on the paper..
Totally agree, I simply do not trust them, they seem to think they are better than anyone else and that their views and ideas should be shared by everyone, and we fall for it time after time.
Yes, and you have again this time! :o ;D
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I think theres not a common political view or unity between them..
We will see in the next elections..
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
Don't generalize too much! ;) But, yeah mostly they're to$$ers. >:(
didnt want it to sound like i was making a generalization no offence was meant but it gets my back up when kids of any age are roughed up
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
Don't generalize too much! ;) But, yeah mostly they're to$$ers. >:(
didnt want it to sound like i was making a generalization no offence was meant but it gets my back up when kids of any age are roughed up
Yeah, this story has me wound up like nothing in recent memory. >:(
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
on the paper..
Totally agree, I simply do not trust them, they seem to think they are better than anyone else and that their views and ideas should be shared by everyone, and we fall for it time after time.
Yes, and you have again this time! :o ;D
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
on the paper..
Totally agree, I simply do not trust them, they seem to think they are better than anyone else and that their views and ideas should be shared by everyone, and we fall for it time after time.
Yes, and you have again this time! :o ;D
?????????????????????????? :-? :-? :-? :-?
You're sharing my views. :y
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i thought the yanks were our allies or is that only a one way street nowadays i know its not a political issue, but how can anyone subject kids to that, to$$ers
on the paper..
Totally agree, I simply do not trust them, they seem to think they are better than anyone else and that their views and ideas should be shared by everyone, and we fall for it time after time.
Yes, and you have again this time! :o ;D
?????????????????????????? :-? :-? :-? :-?
You're sharing my views. :y
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... and this just when holidays are being booked up. Can you imagine ANYONE with kids taking them there in the summer now? :o
Kevin
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swmbo wanted to take our 2 to disney land isolated incident, paper work error or not .IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN
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swmbo wanted to take our 2 to disney land isolated incident, paper work error or not .IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN
Yes, my daughter keeps nagging me to go, I have no inclination to go to the US despite the ‘bright lights’ May try and pacifier her and got to Paris, but to be honest France does not appeal either. :-/
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swmbo wanted to take our 2 to disney land isolated incident, paper work error or not .IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN
Yes, my daughter keeps nagging me to go, I have no inclination to go to the US despite the ‘bright lights’ May try and pacifier her and got to Paris, but to be honest France does not appeal either. :-/
looks like we're in the same boat then
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swmbo wanted to take our 2 to disney land isolated incident, paper work error or not .IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN
Yes, my daughter keeps nagging me to go, I have no inclination to go to the US despite the ‘bright lights’ May try and pacifier her and got to Paris, but to be honest France does not appeal either. :-/
I used to feel the same, but actually I quite admire the French now. They have the guts to stand up for themselves and say "b0110cks to that" when things have gone too far. What with everything that's coming out of Brussels these days, and the world climate in general, I bet they don't lose half as much of their national identity as we do ours. It's also a nice place, and the roads... :-*
Kevin
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ive no problems at all with the french i also admire/ respect the way in which they stand up for themselves .Its the language i cant get my head or tongue around it ive tried, really hard too
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Yeah, me too. I know enough to keep myself and my car fed and watered though, and as long as you try to speak their lingo they couldn't be nicer people.
Kevin
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the land of the free? it would seem they (and us?)are losing sight of what a free country is :(
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It must be social w&%kers the world over, because when they where needed they all together very USELESS. It still makes me very angry & this is nearly two years later.
Seems as though they just want their money for nothin >:( >:( >:( >:(
That post has just stirred a hole lotta hate up AGAIN >:( >:( >:( >:(
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now that ive slept on it i think
1, parents are guilty until proven innocent
2,most social workers concentrate on who to blame rather than trying to help the situation
3, its always the kids who suffer and that is a tragedy
thats just my pennies worth
Rightly or wrongly
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Steady on chaps. You can't go condemning a whole nation because
of the actions of a few.
What if America judged all of us by the actions of our politicians etc..?
The problem nowadays, is that everything is dumbed down to 'Tick the
Box' forms and procedures. Thinking for yourself or the use of discretion
is being squeezed out of society.
What's probably happened, is that procedures have been set in place
to protect children who may be vulnerable. The two girls have probably
been sucked into the system and someone has followed the laid down
procedures to the letter. If they hadn't, and this had been a genuine
case of vulnerable children who had been abused, they would have
been hauled over the coals, fired, and we would have been castigating
them for failing to look after British kids when they needed help and
protection.
I know how you feel, I often feel the same, but how much are we,
all the little guys, to blame, for allowing bureaucrats, politicians and
jobsworths to ride roughshod all over us, without so much as peep
to stand up for ourselves.
As other folk have said, the French don't stand for it. Perhaps the
Brits and Yanks should take a leaf out of their books?
Who was it that said something along the lines of, that for evil
to triumph all that needs to happen is for good men to do nothing?
I think it may have been a US President??
I think that apathy seems to be quite rife in UK and USA these days. :(
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Ive gotta say this story sounds a bit over the top...not saying it didnt happen but isnt strip searching the girls over the top for the yanks.
Id bet a penny to a pound theres more too this story than is being told by the papers/those involved. :-/
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i think we are all apathetic becuase the general public are now totally disenfranchised.our leaders are completely disinterested in their electorate unless there is an impending election. they arent interested in democracy,just convincing enough people to tick the right box to get them into power,and i think the general public know this so more of us vote in the x factor final than in a general election.the whole thing is a complete con but if people try to challenge any aspect of it(from the fuel protesters to dr. david kelly) the system comes down them like a ton of bricks.i think stalin would quite admire the leadership of the"free" western "democracys" these days. rant over! i feel a little better now ;)
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i think we are all apathetic becuase the general public are now totally disenfranchised.our leaders are completely disinterested in their electorate unless there is an impending election. they arent interested in democracy,just convincing enough people to tick the right box to get them into power,and i think the general public know this so more of us vote in the x factor final than in a general election.the whole thing is a complete con but if people try to challenge any aspect of it(from the fuel protesters to dr. david kelly) the system comes down them like a ton of bricks.i think stalin would quite admire the leadership of the"free" western "democracys" these days. rant over! i feel a little better now ;)
well said that man [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Edmund Burke i think said the all it takes etc.......
or similar to it anyway
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Steady on chaps. You can't go condemning a whole nation because
of the actions of a few.
What if America judged all of us by the actions of our politicians etc..?
The problem nowadays, is that everything is dumbed down to 'Tick the
Box' forms and procedures. Thinking for yourself or the use of discretion
is being squeezed out of society.
What's probably happened, is that procedures have been set in place
to protect children who may be vulnerable. The two girls have probably
been sucked into the system and someone has followed the laid down
procedures to the letter. If they hadn't, and this had been a genuine
case of vulnerable children who had been abused, they would have
been hauled over the coals, fired, and we would have been castigating
them for failing to look after British kids when they needed help and
protection.
I know how you feel, I often feel the same, but how much are we,
all the little guys, to blame, for allowing bureaucrats, politicians and
jobsworths to ride roughshod all over us, without so much as peep
to stand up for ourselves.
As other folk have said, the French don't stand for it. Perhaps the
Brits and Yanks should take a leaf out of their books?
Who was it that said something along the lines of, that for evil
to triumph all that needs to happen is for good men to do nothing?
I think it may have been a US President??
I think that apathy seems to be quite rife in UK and USA these days. :(
Grumpy's absolutely right and I find it hard to understand some of the comments in this thread. For those of you who have short memories, what about the kids who were forcibly taken from their parents in the Orkneys in 1990s?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/5272092.stm
The blame lies in the PC madness at a local authority level. In that respect, the US and British societies (and perhaps a few others) are very similar. It's got nothing to do with the countries themselves. >:(
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The problem is generally the laws and rules are written by the lazy burocrats that hardly fits in their chairs with sleepy eyes ;D
And one idiot who dont have self logic possibly followed the written garbage to the last comma as said :(