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Title: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Omega Pixie on 27 January 2008, 14:28:26
When i looked in the hand book it said that i should get about 30 miles to the gallon....I am getting 18!  and that is without the caravan on the back.
How can i improve my fuel economy.....and no i am not a girl racer with a lead foot.
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 27 January 2008, 15:00:24
Hi
fuel consumption generally increases with frequent start stop traffic,
car driving style (acceleration ie) and general engine condition..

Critic factors are sparks, filters, condition of oil (normal service items)

+ how healthy your sensors are (like MAF,Lambda sensors, CTS)

+ condition of valves and pistons..

18 MPG for 2.5 is a bit high I think but if you use in a very bad traffic thats also possible..


edit: condition of exhaust system and exhaust manifold gaskets must also be considered
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Tafty on 27 January 2008, 15:15:42
Am sure the computer averages over the last 17 miles driven - so a long run at 70mph down the motorway will/should see your mileage increase - I can usually get an average on a long run of 33mpg at an average of 78mph up to Aberdeen but as soon as I hit town traffic it eventually goes down to 15 - 23mpg. But yes they are "juicy" when driven normally and not like a sunday driver!! - but with a fair weight being humped around with the car on it's own then the 2.5 upwards is naturally going to be demanding more fuel than a lighter engined model.  Don't worry about the cost of the fuel - enjoy the ride ;)

HTH
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: martin12760460 on 27 January 2008, 15:49:20
scary isnt it :-/ i found the same with mine and not towed my van either ::)
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Markjay on 27 January 2008, 16:49:02
I drive mostly in town but go for a 150+ miles Motorway drive every week or two.

According to the MID I average 20-22mpg and 18-22mph, and this is in spite of the Motorway driving. The car is 2.6 auto.

The reason for the strong bias downward is that when driving in traffic, it is not the speed of your progress that counts, but the duration you spend stationary... e.g. in traffic light, traffic jams, etc. When yopu are not actually moving, both your mpg and mph are zero...

Unless you can avoid driving in town (including the unavoidable stops) I don't think you will see more than low to mid twenties at best...

Said that it is obviously important to keep the car in goos shape, i.e. properly inflated tyres, clean fuel system and injectors, change fliuds and filters regularly, spark plugs and HT leads in good condition etc etc, and then drive sensibly...





Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 27 January 2008, 17:55:54
A clean idle valve, newly serviced oil, filters,sparks and

healhty CTS+thermostat+lambda+EGR will change the figures

drastically that your ECU will never give any idea unless they are

completely gone..
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Tony H on 27 January 2008, 18:53:02
Most of my driving is done around town. According to the mid at an average speed of 23 mph I get 21 mpg from a tank full.
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: The Barge Captain on 27 January 2008, 19:08:12
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Most of my driving is done around town. According to the mid at an average speed of 23 mph I get 21 mpg from a tank full.
I get similar figures

But then I don't run Omegas because they are cheap  ;)  A lot of car invariably means a lot of fuel.
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: philayl on 27 January 2008, 19:11:45
Hi, I only get 17mpg round town, about 34mpg on the motorway, I don't hang about, but don't have a particulary heavy right foot. I am looking to change soon for a new Mondeo diesel, should notice a bit of a difference in fuel consumption.
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Tony H on 27 January 2008, 19:19:51
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Most of my driving is done around town. According to the mid at an average speed of 23 mph I get 21 mpg from a tank full.
I get similar figures

But then I don't run Omegas because they are cheap  ;) A lot of car invariably means a lot of fuel.
Fuel economy improves considerably when you "stretch her legs" on a motorway run :y
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 January 2008, 20:03:59
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Hi, I only get 17mpg round town, about 34mpg on the motorway, I don't hang about, but don't have a particulary heavy right foot. I am looking to change soon for a new Mondeo diesel, should notice a bit of a difference in fuel consumption.


Oh dear :-/
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: road_rescue on 27 January 2008, 20:40:10
I get about 25 mpg out of my 2.5V6 saloon round town- I must be driving like an old man

I'll just go find my driving gloves and tartan picnic rug!
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Omega Pixie on 27 January 2008, 22:39:02
Thnakyou
Though you have added to the jobs my husband now has to look at on my car....but boy will it be worth it in the end...I love my car.
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: caolan_p on 27 January 2008, 23:32:03
  
  For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.
 
  If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!
  
this is part of an email i got today  :y :y
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: davlad22 on 27 January 2008, 23:44:07
So do I walk the 25 miles to college with gear carried on my back???

It's bloody government tax that stings us for all our cash  >:(

....and pixie, i'm suprised none of these lads didn't suggest releasing the handbrake before you set off! What true gents!  :y
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 28 January 2008, 08:48:55
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So do I walk the 25 miles to college with gear carried on my back???

It's bloody government tax that stings us for all our cash  >:(

....and pixie, i'm suprised none of these lads didn't suggest releasing the handbrake before you set off! What true gents!  :y

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 28 January 2008, 10:23:41
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  For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.
 
  If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!
  
this is part of an email i got today  :y :y

I will continue buying from them. It is the governments fault not the oil companies.

Tesco petrol is rubbish so I use BP or Esso - no Shell locally, and if I need gas I will use BP if I have to (eg A30 near Launceston)
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Golfbuddy on 28 January 2008, 10:40:51
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  For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.
 
  If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!
  
this is part of an email i got today  :y :y

That email was discussed on here a few weeks ago. The general consensus was that the only people that would be hurt by a boycott on these filling stations would be the owner operators who run them. The oil companies make £billions worldwide so a few £million here and there by people who respond to this email won't make any difference to them.

 :(
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: caolan_p on 28 January 2008, 12:14:33
this is one reson not to use shell                               wohttp://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=wHvtty3ELNYuld   .And the GOV get 50% tax on petrol  >:(                              
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 28 January 2008, 12:43:47
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this is one reson not to use shell                               wohttp://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=wHvtty3ELNYuld   .And the GOV get 50% tax on petrol  >:(                              

And the rest......there is fuel duty + the petrol/diesel cost + VAT.

So you get charged tax on tax.....and the government is more than happy when the crude price goes up because they get more VAT.....and nice big corp tax payouts from BP!
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: waspy on 28 January 2008, 18:22:01
Keep an eye on your tyre pressures, check them weekly, this can make a big diference to your fool economy :y
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: TheBoy on 28 January 2008, 18:24:16
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  For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.
 
  If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!
  
this is part of an email i got today  :y :y
yes, chain letters come round every day saying same.  its not the oil companies, its the rather government  >:(
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: amigov6 on 28 January 2008, 18:27:55
Stop upsetting boy racers.....Nah it's worth it!!!!!!!!!! [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: theolodian on 28 January 2008, 20:34:11
Check for dragging brakes, poorly running engine, poorly auto box.  Tire pressures won't make it that bad unless all are dangerously low.  Helps a bit to set the climate to Econ.

Main problems with cars like this is never getting them warm or just sitting in traffic.  If you drive less than 10 minutes each way every day your milage will be terrible.  If you are driving farther than that then also check your coolant temp sensor, if the engine computer thinks that the engine is cold then you're toast.
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: waspy on 28 January 2008, 20:49:47
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Check for dragging brakes, poorly running engine, poorly auto box.  Tire pressures won't make it that bad unless all are dangerously low.  Helps a bit to set the climate to Econ.

Main problems with cars like this is never getting them warm or just sitting in traffic.  If you drive less than 10 minutes each way every day your milage will be terrible.  If you are driving farther than that then also check your coolant temp sensor, if the engine computer thinks that the engine is cold then you're toast.

Sorry mate, i disagree. You get two tyres that are say four to five pounds down, that equates to eight to ten pounds, if you was to drop ten pounds outa one tyre you will notice a diference & at around that point it also becomes dangerous
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: ians on 28 January 2008, 20:50:11
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Check for dragging brakes, poorly running engine, poorly auto box.  Tire pressures won't make it that bad unless all are dangerously low.  Helps a bit to set the climate to Econ.

Main problems with cars like this is never getting them warm or just sitting in traffic.  If you drive less than 10 minutes each way every day your milage will be terrible.  If you are driving farther than that then also check your coolant temp sensor, if the engine computer thinks that the engine is cold then you're toast.

Hmm.. my impression is that tyre pressures do make a fair difference (plus there is the effect on tyre life too).   Also easy to check..

Auto's in particular are thirsty at stop start driving.
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: theolodian on 28 January 2008, 20:57:13
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Check for dragging brakes, poorly running engine, poorly auto box.  Tire pressures won't make it that bad unless all are dangerously low.  Helps a bit to set the climate to Econ.

Main problems with cars like this is never getting them warm or just sitting in traffic.  If you drive less than 10 minutes each way every day your milage will be terrible.  If you are driving farther than that then also check your coolant temp sensor, if the engine computer thinks that the engine is cold then you're toast.

Sorry mate, i disagree. You get two tyres that are say four to five pounds down, that equates to eight to ten pounds, if you was to drop ten pounds outa one tyre you will notice a diference & at around that point it also becomes dangerous
Tires won't drop it from upper 20's to low 20's or teens on just 5 psi each.  If you are down 15 psi on a couple tires it will be dangerous.  
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: waspy on 28 January 2008, 20:59:13
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  For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP.
 
  If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!
  
this is part of an email i got today  :y :y
yes, chain letters come round every day saying same.  its not the oil companies, its the rather government  >:([/quote]
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Tony H on 28 January 2008, 23:06:29
In city driving with an auto the trick is to have a light right foot on take off  from a standing start there a lot of lost motion if you "floor it" from an auto which equates to poor fuel economy
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: sounds2k on 30 January 2008, 12:33:22
well it's mainly the economy (or lack of it) that's making me sell mine as with a fair bit of town driving included it's averaging about 17-18MPG. Plus I moved house in November so now have further to travel each day. The Saab I replaced it with is also an auto and is averaging 21-22MPG under the same kind of circumstances ...

If I had a company fuel card then I guess things would be different  :y
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: omegamonkey on 30 January 2008, 14:20:45
Hey :)

My recently bought '99 2.5V6 auto is returning about 19mpg on my daily commute to work as it's about 9 miles each way, all in stop/start traffic - I have to go through 17 sets of traffic lights, three round abouts and a partidge in a pear tree!!

On a run, I can average 38mpg though  :D
Title: Re: Is it just mine or are the Omega's very juicy?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 30 January 2008, 15:41:35
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well it's mainly the economy (or lack of it) that's making me sell mine as with a fair bit of town driving included it's averaging about 17-18MPG. Plus I moved house in November so now have further to travel each day. The Saab I replaced it with is also an auto and is averaging 21-22MPG under the same kind of circumstances ...

If I had a company fuel card then I guess things would be different  :y


LPG it then