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Title: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 February 2008, 08:57:40
... I really like this... might make an offer.

What do you rekon it's worth?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-CD-V6-AUTO-GREEN_W0QQitemZ150210852088QQihZ005QQcategoryZ9858QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: Entwood on 01 February 2008, 10:02:24
That looks a fairly nice motor, and it has a shin breaker  :)

I wonder just what the reserve is, I'd of thought around £1300-1500 would be a fair price, going by what I got for trade-in on my V reg Elite saloon...

But I know very little about prices, all I did was read Autotrader lots for 3 weeks !!! - concentrating on Elites....  :(

Just what are you going to do with ANOTHER miggy !!  :)
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 February 2008, 10:51:14
Don't forget it's leaking oil and cutting out, also likely to be due cambelt and limited history, so I've got some good bargaining points :)

That Car's worth no more than £800 to me... ;)
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: maria on 01 February 2008, 11:27:50
James you got a nice estate you just got with black leather i don't like that one much but its your choice  ::)
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 February 2008, 11:55:18
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James you got a nice estate you just got with black leather i don't like that one much but its your choice  ::)

I was thinking the same, actually (sorry, James).   ::)

Yes, it's a facelift and slightly newer but none of the toys and not such a nice colour IMHO. 2.5 instead of 3.0 8-). Max's ex-car ought to be nicely sorted now. What am I missing?

As a project to make a quick buck on, it's tempting, but that's all... :-/

Kevin
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 February 2008, 12:14:26
A) I much prefer the facelift model. Better ride, better handling, less wind noise, more comfy seats...

B) Current Estate has some gout in the rear arch, likely to be expensive to fix and problematic if left.

C) Estate has developed a noisy lifter, and I'll be beggared if I'm stripping it again.

D) 2.5 is much better for me from an insurance perspective, and better on fuel..

Whilst the new Estate is a nice car, somehow I just feel more at home in the facelift.

Tunnie - do you relate?


Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: maria on 01 February 2008, 12:18:29
so why go and buy max one if you prefer  the face lift but at least you can resell the one you got and get one you really like ::) I don't understand  men some times they are like us women for changing there minds if not worse  ;D
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 February 2008, 12:19:38
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so why go and buy max one if you prefer  the face lift but at least you can resell the one you got and get one you really like ::) I don't men they are like us women for changing there minds if not worse  ;D

I'm actually considering selling BOTH of the cars and having a really nice facelift LPG estate (A bit like Bob's you saw in Devon)..

But if you really want me to keep the older one......
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: maria on 01 February 2008, 12:22:36
No you do what ever makes you happy babe ,i do like bob dents car so yeh go for one like that if you can ;)
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 February 2008, 12:25:24
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No you do what ever makes you happy babe ,i do like bob dents car so yeh go for one like that if you can ;)

Don't want to make any fast choices yet.... BUT you may not see me on Monday if I have to change these lifters, it's a GOOD mornings work...
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: tunnie on 01 February 2008, 12:41:19
facelift is a lot better in many ways... down to personal preferance really. But the facelift is more refined.
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 February 2008, 12:42:57
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facelift is a lot better in many ways... down to personal preferance really. But the facelift is more refined.

Totally. Prefacelift, whilst nice, just doesn't cut it after a facelift model
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: Paul M on 01 February 2008, 12:50:30
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facelift is a lot better in many ways... down to personal preferance really. But the facelift is more refined.

Pity they beat the facelift with the ugly stick. I've thought about getting one a few times, but I can't get by that huge front grille (maybe they were so impressed with the Scorpio they took inspiration from it) and the interior is hideous IMO -- styled with a blunt chisel.

On the other hand, I think it looks better than the pre-facelift from the back, and the colour coding of those nasty black door trims and the bumper tops is a big plus.
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: tunnie on 01 February 2008, 12:57:02
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facelift is a lot better in many ways... down to personal preferance really. But the facelift is more refined.

Pity they beat the facelift with the ugly stick. I've thought about getting one a few times, but I can't get by that huge front grille (maybe they were so impressed with the Scorpio they took inspiration from it) and the interior is hideous IMO -- styled with a blunt chisel.

On the other hand, I think it looks better than the pre-facelift from the back, and the colour coding of those nasty black door trims and the bumper tops is a big plus.

I keep thinking about an Irmscher front grill for mine, they look good on the facelifts in a darker colour like mine.

Over-all the facelift is a lot more modern in its design, no black and chrome strips down the doors.

To be honest, i think the pre-facelifts look worse than the facelifts, the fog lights and front bumper are too plasticaly, the facelift bumpers, although bigger are 'cleaner'


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Post by: TheBoy on 01 February 2008, 13:14:58
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facelift is a lot better in many ways... down to personal preferance really. But the facelift is more refined.

Pity they beat the facelift with the ugly stick. I've thought about getting one a few times, but I can't get by that huge front grille (maybe they were so impressed with the Scorpio they took inspiration from it) and the interior is hideous IMO -- styled with a blunt chisel.

On the other hand, I think it looks better than the pre-facelift from the back, and the colour coding of those nasty black door trims and the bumper tops is a big plus.

I keep thinking about an Irmscher front grill for mine, they look good on the facelifts in a darker colour like mine.

Over-all the facelift is a lot more modern in its design, no black and chrome strips down the doors.

To be honest, i think the pre-facelifts look worse than the facelifts, the fog lights and front bumper are too plasticaly, the facelift bumpers, although bigger are 'cleaner'


Remind me of those awful bumpers fitted to facelifted Rover 800s.

The fron tof the facelift is not pretty imho.  Rear I quite like.  Inside is non descript plastic and drab.  Interior quality is pretty poor as well.

More refined? Not really.

Its whatever you prefer really.  If age is important, obviously you choice is facelift.
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: Admin on 01 February 2008, 13:24:54
Personally I think you're a bl**dy idiot!

You have, in Max's car, a fundamentally sound car, wth a known good engine (noisy lifter can be sorted easily enough with all the toys and it is an estate.

It is also very cheap for what it is.
If it lasts you a year and then things become more of a concern, fine, but it will be your day to day car that you can rely on as you know it is good.

You also have a nice facelft with LPG conversion that is capable of realsing some much needed profit meaning you have actually done all this for a reason.

Use that profit to buy another car by all means, but at least you will be working with real cash, and not funding it another way.

Don't go buying another car at this point.
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 February 2008, 13:30:39
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Personally I think you're a bl**dy idiot!


Thanks  :'(

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You have, in Max's car, a fundamentally sound car, wth a known good engine (noisy lifter can be sorted easily enough with all the toys and it is an estate.

Only concern is that if it's not localised to one lifter, it could be a blocked oil pump etc  :-X
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: TheBoy on 01 February 2008, 13:31:31
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Personally I think you're a bl**dy idiot!

You have, in Max's car, a fundamentally sound car, wth a known good engine (noisy lifter can be sorted easily enough with all the toys and it is an estate.

It is also very cheap for what it is.
If it lasts you a year and then things become more of a concern, fine, but it will be your day to day car that you can rely on as you know it is good.

You also have a nice facelft with LPG conversion that is capable of realsing some much needed profit meaning you have actually done all this for a reason.

Use that profit to buy another car by all means, but at least you will be working with real cash, and not funding it another way.

Don't go buying another car at this point.
I was trying to be more polite ;D
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: Admin on 01 February 2008, 13:37:34
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Personally I think you're a bl**dy idiot!


Thanks  :'(

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You have, in Max's car, a fundamentally sound car, wth a known good engine (noisy lifter can be sorted easily enough with all the toys and it is an estate.

Only concern is that if it's not localised to one lifter, it could be a blocked oil pump etc  :-X

Stop looking at the worst case scenario to try and justify your argument. ;)

Reality is, as you said, the oil was not good.
Do 3 or 4 VERY short changes with proper semi synth and see what happens over the next couple of weeks.

You can also drop the sump and clean the bottom end for good measure.

As the wise one says, work in a methodical manner in order to find the solution to a problem. :)
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 February 2008, 13:39:51
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Personally I think you're a bl**dy idiot!


Thanks  :'(

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You have, in Max's car, a fundamentally sound car, wth a known good engine (noisy lifter can be sorted easily enough with all the toys and it is an estate.

Only concern is that if it's not localised to one lifter, it could be a blocked oil pump etc  :-X

Stop looking at the worst case scenario to try and justify your argument. ;)

Reality is, as you said, the oil was not good.
Do 3 or 4 VERY short changes with proper semi synth and see what happens over the next couple of weeks.

You can also drop the sump and clean the bottom end for good measure.

As the wise one says, work in a methodical manner in order to find the solution to a problem. :)

Ok ok, It has some very fresh oil, so I will drive it to Cardiff and Back tonight (150 miles) and then report on what happens :y

You know what I'm like, worst case scenario is that I'll change the lifters on Monday and have a smile on my face again!  ;)
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 February 2008, 13:45:27
Were the lifters quiet when they were in the donor engine?

Kevin
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 February 2008, 13:47:35
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Were the lifters quiet when they were in the donor engine?

Kevin

As a mouse...
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 February 2008, 14:07:37
I'd give them a little while to settle down then. I can't believe running it for a little while on dirty oil was enough to clog them up. Most likely they are still working air out of them and you've introduced a bit more air by replacing the oil filter.

Either that or the engine has terminally low oil pressure, in which case cleaning the lifters won't help.

Kevin
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: TheBoy on 01 February 2008, 14:09:30
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Personally I think you're a bl**dy idiot!


Thanks  :'(

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You have, in Max's car, a fundamentally sound car, wth a known good engine (noisy lifter can be sorted easily enough with all the toys and it is an estate.

Only concern is that if it's not localised to one lifter, it could be a blocked oil pump etc  :-X

Stop looking at the worst case scenario to try and justify your argument. ;)

Reality is, as you said, the oil was not good.
Do 3 or 4 VERY short changes with proper semi synth and see what happens over the next couple of weeks.

You can also drop the sump and clean the bottom end for good measure.

As the wise one says, work in a methodical manner in order to find the solution to a problem. :)

Ok ok, It has some very fresh oil, so I will drive it to Cardiff and Back tonight (150 miles) and then report on what happens :y

You know what I'm like, worst case scenario is that I'll change the lifters on Monday and have a smile on my face again!  ;)
As LB says, a few quick oil changes...
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: davlad22 on 01 February 2008, 15:06:24
Back to the important stuff....

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facelift is a lot better in many ways... down to personal preferance really. But the facelift is more refined.

Totally. Prefacelift, whilst nice, just doesn't cut it after a facelift model
Absolutely! The facelift is a slicker machine in all respects!!! A great, classy looking motor and drives more like a modern car.

The preface to me looks a bit old hat now. Coupled with the fact there aren't many well looked after examples left. Reminds me of of an old carlton or cavalier! ;D Though, i suppose this is what makes the world go round!  :y
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: MaxV6 on 01 February 2008, 23:40:36
I suspect the Blown HG had something to do with the state of the oil James....  it was flushed and changed about 4500-5000 miles ago, with vauxhall semi.. all filters etc...  and was going to get a change of oil and all filters again in with the "fix" had the garage not found it to be the HG and quoted the cost of another car as the price to fix it./..    I have had it changed every 5 to 6K religiously, ever since I bought the damn thing... granted it was due a change...  but i really didn't expect it to be that bad ..... (given that i wasn't aware of the HG failure at the time...   hindsight however......  usually 20/20 aint it... )  

as to changing cars, it's your baby now... do whatever you wish, I wouldn't be the slightest bit offended (unless you do a Jeremy Clarkson with a swimming pool....)


as to Facelift / Pre face lift...  

the Mini facelift is definitely the prettiest Omega generation IMHO...  

I'm an old fashioned guy at heart, and all the slab sided bits of interior plastic in the facelift suck.,.. and that overweight "pregnant" front bumper/grille on the facelift is horrendous....

it'sa shame , as from the rear,/rear threee-quarter view.. the facelift MV6 in silver is one of the nicest things around.... till you walk round the front.....  


OT for a sec, the neighbours would like their parking space back mate ;)
I currently have no plans for the weekend (just some tinkering with bits and bobs in the studio) that cannot be moved about   a bit to accommodate picking you up from the station, or running you around to various spots to arrange your omega collection as suits you best...   :D

(i've worked flat out all week, so the weekend is "ME" time, kids allowing of course)

Wash and polish the elite......   it looks stunning!   might make you feel more fond of it , it does me, every time I do it !


I'd still almost be tempted to buy it back.... (remember my "an elite for each day of the week"  dream ;)  )  if Chrissy wouldn't throw a fit and kill me for it.....  she's sulking about the money for the patio and easter break being blown on another car as it is....  


meaning i'll have to work even bloody harder now !



Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 February 2008, 06:05:04
I do like the car max. I really do. I'm just having a "disheartened" moment because I've got a noisy lifter ;D

Is between 3-4pm OK today to pick up the CDX? :)
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: MaxV6 on 02 February 2008, 11:55:02
yeah I'll be here, Kettle at the ready mate.
Title: Re: Seen an estate I really want...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 February 2008, 11:58:52
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yeah I'll be here, Kettle at the ready mate.

Supurb :)

As per PM, it will be a little later on, early evening...