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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: whitebullet on 25 May 2011, 19:32:50
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Last night the abs/tc ligts came on but went out again so i thought nothing of it, they came on again earlier and went out again, ive just gone an started the car up and the abs/tc lights are on and not going out, any ideas on what it could be, ive just got rid of my vec because of this problem, the car is a 3.0 omega elite 2000(w) reg
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You got rid of a car just because the ABS light came on????
The ABS light could be on for a number of reasons, from something as simple as too much crud between the wheel hub & sensor all the way to a failed ECU.
Do a pedal/paperclip test (whichever is appropiate) to get the error code, then work from there.
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Most probably breaked abs ecu.
How to in Maintenance Guides.
Either get yours repaired (~ £100 +), or get a good 2nd hand one off a breaker - best to get from same year and same spec, otherwise will need Tech2 session.
PITA to do due to location & tight for space, but DIY doable. :y
HTH
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You got rid of a car just because the ABS light came on????
The ABS light could be on for a number of reasons, from something as simple as too much crud between the wheel hub & sensor all the way to a failed ECU.
Do a pedal/paperclip test (whichever is appropiate) to get the error code, then work from there.
Only gives engine codes mate. No use to Op for abs problem.
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could it be the abs rings???
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Could be sensors (if you're really lucky!!) - what year is your motor?
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Could be sensors (if you're really lucky!!) - what year is your motor?
W(2000)
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where is the abs ecu located, how will i know if its gone tits up
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where is the abs ecu located, how will i know if its gone tits up
Part of the ABS modulator under the bonnet. http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152729807
You know it's duff when your ABS & TC lights are on. ;)
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You know it's duff when your ABS & TC lights are on. and the speedo dont work.
Your abs Ecu is located on the passenger side of the engine bay under the PAS fluid bottle. The ecu's can be removed easy enough as long as you remove a couple of things first.
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where is the abs ecu located, how will i know if its gone tits up
Part of the ABS modulator under the bonnet. http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152729807
You know it's duff when your ABS & TC lights are on. ;)
but that could also be the abs rings, although when the abs rings went on my vec i had like a grinding feel through the pedal but i have nothing like that on the omega, i just have the lights, looks like Daz will have to take a look :y
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where is the abs ecu located, how will i know if its gone tits up
Part of the ABS modulator under the bonnet. http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152729807
You know it's duff when your ABS & TC lights are on. ;)
but that could also be the abs rings
Suppose so, experience on the forum says that it's often the ABS ECU :(
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Does your speedo still work?
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Does your speedo still work?
it did when it last happend, what does its mean if it does or dosnt work
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If your speedo isn't work or it works intermittently then your ABS ECU is on its way out. To resolve this problem you need to replace your ECU for a new one or have your's repaired.
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Does your speedo still work?
it did when it last happend, what does its mean if it does or dosnt work
speedo takes its signal from the ABS, so if it's fubar'd your speedo doesn't get a signal hence no speedo.
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Does your speedo still work?
it did when it last happend, what does its mean if it does or dosnt work
speedo takes its signal from the ABS, so if it's fubar'd your speedo doesn't get a signal hence no speedo.
ive just been out and drove it around the block and the lights were on and the speedo didnt work, i then pulled up and the lights went out and the speedo worked but then it the lights came on again and speedo stopped, does the power steering fluid have anything to do with as i have just checked all the fluids and it seem way too low
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Does your speedo still work?
it did when it last happend, what does its mean if it does or dosnt work
speedo takes its signal from the ABS, so if it's fubar'd your speedo doesn't get a signal hence no speedo.
ive just been out and drove it around the block and the lights were on and the speedo didnt work, i then pulled up and the lights went out and the speedo worked but then it the lights came on again and speedo stopped, does the power steering fluid have anything to do with as i have just checked all the fluids and it seem way too low
ABS ECU for certain ... about £130 to have it mended by BBA REman ... :)
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Does your speedo still work?
it did when it last happend, what does its mean if it does or dosnt work
speedo takes its signal from the ABS, so if it's fubar'd your speedo doesn't get a signal hence no speedo.
ive just been out and drove it around the block and the lights were on and the speedo didnt work, i then pulled up and the lights went out and the speedo worked but then it the lights came on again and speedo stopped, does the power steering fluid have anything to do with as i have just checked all the fluids and it seem way too low
ABS ECU for certain ... about £130 to have it mended by BBA REman ... :)
£130 i dont have, looks like it will be sold or stripped :o >:(
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.. does the power steering fluid have anything to do with ....
Yes, the power steering is speed sensitive and gets its signal from the ABS ;)
You could always try A N Other ECU, but it has to be from a similar car. But you are taking a risk that the 'new' ECU isn't already goosed or nearly goosed.
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Does your speedo still work?
it did when it last happend, what does its mean if it does or dosnt work
speedo takes its signal from the ABS, so if it's fubar'd your speedo doesn't get a signal hence no speedo.
ive just been out and drove it around the block and the lights were on and the speedo didnt work, i then pulled up and the lights went out and the speedo worked but then it the lights came on again and speedo stopped, does the power steering fluid have anything to do with as i have just checked all the fluids and it seem way too low
ABS ECU for certain ... about £130 to have it mended by BBA REman ... :)
£130 i dont have, looks like it will be sold or stripped :o >:(
Get one from a Breaker (plenty on here) and 2 hours work, you'll have a fully functioning car. ::)
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.. does the power steering fluid have anything to do with ....
Yes, the power steering is speed sensitive and gets its signal from the ABS ;)
would that cause the lights to come on though
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.. does the power steering fluid have anything to do with ....
Yes, the power steering is speed sensitive and gets its signal from the ABS ;)
would that cause the lights to come on though
No.
Andy was saying that the Speed Sensitive part of the Power Steering is linked to the Speed Signal.
Low fluid wont cause your issues.
It's the ECU!
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You`ve been advised of the fault. Bite the bullet & get it repaired or get shot of it. One of the joys of buying from E-bay
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.. does the power steering fluid have anything to do with ....
Yes, the power steering is speed sensitive and gets its signal from the ABS ;)
would that cause the lights to come on though
No.
Andy was saying that the Speed Sensitive part of the Power Steering is linked to the Speed Signal.
Low fluid wont cause your issues.
It's the ECU!
ok thanks,
i'll see what i can sort out, but keep your eyes peeled for a few parts
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.. does the power steering fluid have anything to do with ....
Yes, the power steering is speed sensitive and gets its signal from the ABS ;)
would that cause the lights to come on though
No.
Andy was saying that the Speed Sensitive part of the Power Steering is linked to the Speed Signal.
Low fluid wont cause your issues.
It's the ECU!
ok thanks,
i'll see what i can sort out, but keep your eyes peeled for a few parts
Meaning :question :question
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You`ve been advised of the fault. Bite the bullet & get it repaired or get shot of it.
yes daddy ;D
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.. does the power steering fluid have anything to do with ....
Yes, the power steering is speed sensitive and gets its signal from the ABS ;)
would that cause the lights to come on though
No.
Andy was saying that the Speed Sensitive part of the Power Steering is linked to the Speed Signal.
Low fluid wont cause your issues.
It's the ECU!
ok thanks,
i'll see what i can sort out, but keep your eyes peeled for a few parts
Meaning :question :question
meaning i might break it
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Was looking at your car on the bay but when the "owner" refused to answer every question I asked, decided it was a bit of a lemon
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.. does the power steering fluid have anything to do with ....
Yes, the power steering is speed sensitive and gets its signal from the ABS ;)
would that cause the lights to come on though
No.
Andy was saying that the Speed Sensitive part of the Power Steering is linked to the Speed Signal.
Low fluid wont cause your issues.
It's the ECU!
ok thanks,
i'll see what i can sort out, but keep your eyes peeled for a few parts
Meaning :question :question
meaning i might break it
250 posts to sell anything on here ::)
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.. does the power steering fluid have anything to do with ....
Yes, the power steering is speed sensitive and gets its signal from the ABS ;)
would that cause the lights to come on though
No.
Andy was saying that the Speed Sensitive part of the Power Steering is linked to the Speed Signal.
Low fluid wont cause your issues.
It's the ECU!
ok thanks,
i'll see what i can sort out, but keep your eyes peeled for a few parts
Meaning :question :question
meaning i might break it
For the sake of a £30-£50 purchase you will break the car?
If you dont have £130 to spend on it, the likelyhood is you dont have a lot of cash to replace the car. Yes, I'm making a lot of assumptions.
I have an ECU here from a 3.0 Auto Saloon which would, after 2 hours work sort you out.
Unfortunately, I'm keeping this as a spare. :y
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Was looking at your car on the bay but when the "owner" refused to answer every question I asked, decided it was a bit of a lemon
for your information the owner of the car wasnt even in the country to answer any questions, his neighbour was selling the car for him and he didnt know anything about the car apart from what he was told by the owner before he left, its not a lemon i juts havent got the funds to fix it if its going to cost to much, hence why i said i may break it, so what if i need 250 posts this isnt the only club im a member of,
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Was looking at your car on the bay but when the "owner" refused to answer every question I asked, decided it was a bit of a lemon
for your information the owner of the car wasnt even in the country to answer any questions, his neighbour was selling the car for him and he didnt know anything about the car apart from what he was told by the owner before he left, its not a lemon i juts havent got the funds to fix it if its going to cost to much, hence why i said i may break it, so what if i need 250 posts this isnt the only club im a member of,
He was in the country up until 2 days prior to auction end ;)
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.. does the power steering fluid have anything to do with ....
Yes, the power steering is speed sensitive and gets its signal from the ABS ;)
would that cause the lights to come on though
No.
Andy was saying that the Speed Sensitive part of the Power Steering is linked to the Speed Signal.
Low fluid wont cause your issues.
It's the ECU!
ok thanks,
i'll see what i can sort out, but keep your eyes peeled for a few parts
Meaning :question :question
meaning i might break it
For the sake of a £30-£50 purchase you will break the car?
If you dont have £130 to spend on it, the likelyhood is you dont have a lot of cash to replace the car. Yes, I'm making a lot of assumptions.
I have an ECU here from a 3.0 Auto Saloon which would, after 2 hours work sort you out.
Unfortunately, I'm keeping this as a spare. :y
damn,
i not one to spend a fortune on fixing cars, im too tight
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I have broken perfectly working Omegas with Tax and MOT on them for no reason whatsoever other than not needing the car, most are worth more in parts than as a whole
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...so what if i need 250 posts this isnt the only club im a member of,
Don't mention VxON, there are 'issues'.
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...so what if i need 250 posts this isnt the only club im a member of,
Don't mention VxON, there are 'issues'.
lol, i know,
ive pm'd daz(darth loo knee) to see what he can do for me, when he replies to my pms that is lol
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ive sorted the fitting part, now i just need to source one lol, are the numbers on the ecu the same, if so does anyone know what the number is and where the best place to source one from
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Part nº on label on bottom of ecu - you need to remove it to see it - blame Vx for that :-? :)
Glad you've decided to believe OOF diagnosis - when abs ecu breaked usually lose speedo plus some power steering assistance.
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Part nº on label on bottom of ecu - you need to remove it to see it - blame Vx for that :-? :)
Glad you've decided to believe OOF diagnosis - when abs ecu breaked usually lose speedo plus some power steering assistance.
i never doubted the diagnosis fella :y, i just like as much info as possible before i throw money away, i havent lost any power steerring yet, should i expect to
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Part nº on label on bottom of ecu - you need to remove it to see it - blame Vx for that :-? :)
Glad you've decided to believe OOF diagnosis - when abs ecu breaked usually lose speedo plus some power steering assistance.
i never doubted the diagnosis fella :y, i just like as much info as possible before i throw money away, i havent lost any power steerring yet, should i expect to
Yes
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Part nº on label on bottom of ecu - you need to remove it to see it - blame Vx for that :-? :)
Glad you've decided to believe OOF diagnosis - when abs ecu breaked usually lose speedo plus some power steering assistance.
i never doubted the diagnosis fella :y, i just like as much info as possible before i throw money away, i havent lost any power steerring yet, should i expect to
Yes
god damn it,
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ive been having a nosey under the bonnet of my omega and it looks like the pipe that comes from the bottom of the power steerng bottle is leaking, and i take it from what i have read/been told that the abs ecu sits rght underneath it, could the leak be causing the fault ie shorting it out, would it fix the problem if i changed the pipe and cleaned the abs ecu to get rid of the power steering fluid :-?
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These ecus are very well sealed, it is usually a solder connection that fails. There are pics of this in either the maintenance guides or common probs, I forget which.
ISTR that if you need to remove the knackered hose to get at the ABS block, the you should probably replace it before it fails completely.
:y
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i went out today and coated the abs ecu in wd40 and then fired it up and the ligts went out, ive just done about 4 miles stopping and starting the car and the lights went out each time like them should, so i came home and topped up the power steering fluid and covered the abs ecu in some more wd40, so i'll see how it goes over the next couple of days before i buy an ecu
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well i still had the abs/tc fault so i gave Daz a call, went up today and he changed the abs ecu and alls good, cracking job daz, highly recommended, hope you dried out lol :y
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well i still had the abs/tc fault so i gave Daz a call, went up today and he changed the abs ecu and alls good, cracking job daz, highly recommended, hope you dried out lol :y
A nice hot bath whilst chatting on the phone. When I told them where I actually was they came over all queer and had to get of the phone to gather theirself ;D ;D ;D ;D
Glad its sorted at last Andy. :y