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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: aaronjb on 31 August 2011, 11:20:01
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I remember TB starting a thread about this recently (at least I think it was TB) only I can't find it for love nor money..
Was the consensus that rear pads *are* on Trade Club, or are not? In fact I can't find any pads for the 3.2, the only thing listed on their new (horrible) website are rear shoes...
Just trying to figure out if TC pads are cheap enough to throw a set on, or whether I should buy 'proper' pads from somewhere, or a cheap set of Pagid pads from ECP..
Gotta do something, the squealing is getting embarrassing!
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Aftermarket is good enough for the rears
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at around £10 or what ever it is a pair is it worth going pattern?
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why not just use Vauxhall's? :-/ They're cheap enough. :y
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3.2 (therfore vented rears) arent listed as trade club.....and are a lot more than a tenner.
I beleive they are the same though.
the 'real' ones come with shims and new pins, the tc ones dont.
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at around £10 or what ever it is a pair is it worth going pattern?
That's the thing, I don't know if they're a tenner or not because the TC doesn't list any pads ;) The only price I found reference to (on here) for the 3.2 was more like £70..
[edit] I did think about just asking andyc, but so far I've asked him for several prices and bought nothing.. starting to feel like I'm taking the piss! :-[
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what happens if you stick the standard ones in? :-/
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I'm guessing they'll work just fine.. but how much are non-TC rear pads? Or fronts for that matter since they don't seem to be listed anymore either..
Or by 'standard' do you mean for the non-vented discs?
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sorry I mean just cheapo £10 TC rear pads, they are same ones fitted to 3.0 and apart from the vented rear disc how much difference can there be? :-/
Could always say sod vented, put some standard rear discs on and new pads from a breaker here for a damn site less than £70
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sorry I mean just cheapo £10 TC rear pads, they are same ones fitted to 3.0 and apart from the vented rear disc how much difference can there be? :-/
Could always say sod vented, put some standard rear discs on and new pads from a breaker here for a damn site less than £70
you'd have to change the calipers as well
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sorry I mean just cheapo £10 TC rear pads, they are same ones fitted to 3.0 and apart from the vented rear disc how much difference can there be? :-/
Could always say sod vented, put some standard rear discs on and new pads from a breaker here for a damn site less than £70
you'd have to change the calipers as well
And why would you want to downgrade the braking system? :-/ :-/
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sorry I mean just cheapo £10 TC rear pads, they are same ones fitted to 3.0 and apart from the vented rear disc how much difference can there be? :-/
Could always say sod vented, put some standard rear discs on and new pads from a breaker here for a damn site less than £70
you'd have to change the calipers as well
And why would you want to downgrade the braking system? :-/ :-/
They stop a 3.0 facelift fine, why should 3.2 be an issue? :-/
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sorry I mean just cheapo £10 TC rear pads, they are same ones fitted to 3.0 and apart from the vented rear disc how much difference can there be? :-/
Could always say sod vented, put some standard rear discs on and new pads from a breaker here for a damn site less than £70
you'd have to change the calipers as well
Oooh, yes. BAD things happen if you don't change the calipers.
I wouldn't be changing the spec. of any of the braking system just to get cheaper pads, that's for sure. :o
I changed my rear disks+pads a year or so ago. I believe it was trade club stuff but couldn't be sure. Can't remember what it cost either. ::) If changing just the pads a quick phone call to andy would get them in the post with minimal pain compared to tackling the TC web site, or just get some "cooking" pads from the local motor factors?
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Indeed, perhaps I'll just give Andy a bell - I'll see what they say at the MOT first, though, just in case I need any other bits :D
Better do that on Friday before the current one expires.
Cheers all - if I do get TC pads all round, I'll let you know what they cost for future reference ;)
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Just to clear things up
Aftermarket front pads, 9192124 £14.72
OE front pads, 9195077 £67.23
Aftremarket Solid Pads, 93169001 £12.23
OE Solid Pads, 9193476 £49.06
OE vented Pads, 9195058 £49.06
All Plus VAT
Cheers
Andy
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sorry I mean just cheapo £10 TC rear pads, they are same ones fitted to 3.0 and apart from the vented rear disc how much difference can there be? :-/
Could always say sod vented, put some standard rear discs on and new pads from a breaker here for a damn site less than £70
you'd have to change the calipers as well
And why would you want to downgrade the braking system? :-/ :-/
They stop a 3.0 facelift fine, why should 3.2 be an issue? :-/
Stopping isn't my concern but it would be an insurance nightmare if the worst were to happen ;) ;)
Oh... And they may stop a 3.0 OK but the braking on my 3.2 is noticeably better when pushed hard ;) ;)
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Just to clear things up
Aftermarket front pads, 9192124 £14.72
OE front pads, 9195077 £67.23
Aftremarket Solid Pads, 93169001 £12.23
OE Solid Pads, 9193476 £49.06
OE vented Pads, 9195058 £49.06
All Plus VAT
Cheers
Andy
Cheers Andy, you're a gent! No such beast as TC vented rear pads, then :(
[edit] Although £50 is not really a huge amount for the things that stop you running into the back of a truck.. :)
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tell you what, as i'm feeling in a good mood i'll knock 15% for thoses vented pads, so £41.70 + VAT :y
Cheers
Andy
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tell you what, as i'm feeling in a good mood i'll knock 15% for thoses vented pads, so £41.70 + VAT :y
Cheers
Andy
Don't suppose you would do the same for a set of 3.0 cam cover gaskets & black goo? ::) :D
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already way below normal trade price ;)
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already way below normal trade price ;)
Incoming call then! :) :y
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already way below normal trade price ;)
Incoming call then! :) :y
Ordered. Thanks Andy :y
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Pretty certain the pads didn't change between vented and non vented, despite the gm part number.
The TC site no longer lists any rear pads for Omegas, but andyc has given part no above.
The TC ones are soft as cheese, but I prefer them. Just have to wash the rear wheels often ;D
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I just want pads that don't squeal like a stuffed pig* ;D could maybe get away with greasing the shims, but, since I have no history of them being changed.. might as well change them while I'm in there.
I'll give Andy a call tomorrow or Friday, whenever work gives me the opportunity!
(*Ok, also handy if they stopped the car..)
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Seem to remember, last time I did brakes...
Front tc pad and disc set £80(odd)
Rear pads not on tc, so fitted oe (on tc?), with pins, shims and springs for £47 ishorsomethinglikenearwhatandysaid...
Found rear oe pads to be superior, and replaced the new tc pads with oe at £70 odd a front axle set.
Like oe I do! Happy days! :y (fronts are steep though Andy ;) )
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Sorry to be so dim but what does OE stand for
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Sorry to be so dim but what does OE stand for
Original Equipment ie from Vauxhall ;) ;)
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Sorry to be so dim but what does OE stand for
Original Equipment ie from Vauxhall ;) ;)
It's what the car left the factory with, in theory.
Tc pads are supposed to be for use on part worn discs from what I gather, which is strange as they are sold with new discs in the trade club disc and pad set withthat redicilously large shamfer on leading and trailing edges.
Having said that, for £14 tc pads will do for most people.
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OE is the GM factory spec pad, and quite expensive.
Tradeclub only list GM's 'aftermarket' (ie, competitively priced) pads.
The TC pads are undoubtedly softer, and do create a whole heep of brake dust if driven aggressively.
Personally, I am still on the fence about OE v TC fronts. I prefer TC rears, as I think they help the Traction Control do a job before having to tell the engine to bog down.
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OE is the GM factory spec pad, and quite expensive.
Tradeclub only list GM's 'aftermarket' (ie, competitively priced) pads.
The TC pads are undoubtedly softer, and do create a whole heep of brake dust if driven aggressively.
Personally, I am still on the fence about OE v TC fronts. I prefer TC rears, as I think they help the Traction Control do a job before having to tell the engine to bog down.
... And it's a prime example of how one component fits in with everything else, getting the balance right for the owner etc.
What suits one owner doesn't necessarily suit another. :)
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Thanks for bumping the thread, Chris ;) Saved me going looking for it this morning..
Omega passed it's MOT so I just gave Andy a call to order TC front pads, OE rears, fuel filter, clips, air filter, pollen filter, oil filter and a thermostat..
'bout time it had a proper service by me - might even put the cambelt kit on I've got sitting here! :D
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Aftremarket pads came about due to the fact that lease companies would not pay the high price for the OE pads.
GME then brought out the aftermarket version to help keep the lease car business, if your a lease company looking to buy hundreds of cars then this is something you need to look at.
This all happend well over twenty years ago before trade club was born.
As for the Disc Kit then the discs are the same as they have always been they are not a cheaper version but they all come with Aftermarket pads
Andy
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Just thought I'd say a quick public thank you to Andy - ordered the bits on Friday and it all arrived on Tuesday, despite some stuff not being in stock if I recall the telephone conversation correctly :)
'course it arrived and I realised I'd forgotten to order spark plugs ;D I best visit the local dealer for those - be silly to pay delivery on £20s worth of stuff.
Anyway - thanks Andy, great service! :)