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Title: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: amba on 04 December 2007, 22:07:32
Where is the best place to pick up the wiring for a tomtom satnav ?I dont want the wires all over the place and it looks messy with it plugged into the ciggy lighter socket,so where is it best sited and the best place /wires to break into for power.
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: markey mark on 04 December 2007, 22:25:06
yes i want to do this too bud !!  :y
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: amba on 04 December 2007, 22:30:06
Thought it might work by buying another plug in ciggy cable with usb plug on end,then cutting off plug ,attaching inline fuse and then connecting into cars electrics ??but where and what is best..permenant live or switched with ignition?
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: Jimbob on 05 December 2007, 08:02:25
I've been thinking about getting power to the drivers cubby hole, could be a nice place to hide the wiring.
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: amba on 05 December 2007, 09:37:56
Hi Jimbo..might be worth buying a ciggy lighter socket thingy and wiring it into the main fuse board on a ignition live feed..then just using the tomtom giggy plug and wire and hidding it all in the flap down drivers side cubby hole..only problem i have with that is where else do i keep my sunglasses as really usefull place for them
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: Jimbob on 05 December 2007, 09:51:57
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Hi Jimbo..might be worth buying a ciggy lighter socket thingy and wiring it into the main fuse board on a ignition live feed..then just using the tomtom giggy plug and wire and hidding it all in the flap down drivers side cubby hole..only problem i have with that is where else do i keep my sunglasses as really usefull place for them

Easy, on your head  8-)   ;D
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: TheBoy on 05 December 2007, 17:09:19
I use a PDA. Mounted on the left of console with a no holes Dashmount kit.  Wiring goes to phone kit, which itself is feed from the Vx phone prewiring...
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: LFF64 on 05 December 2007, 19:18:58
Although my sat nav is not a tom tom I  have already done this to my car it is much neater  :y
 I removed the cig lighter plug from the lead ,and have threaded the lead around the center dash vent and down to the back of the radio . It is much easier to do with the center console removed but still takes a fair bit of fishing to get the wire down .
 DO NOT CONNECT THE LEAD DIRECTLY TO 12V, the plug is usually a step down trnsformer the sat nav is only 5v but check what ever you have .  
I opened up the lighter plug and removed the circuit board from inside reconnected the  the output wires to the sat nav . Personally I  have wired directly to  a permanent live so the sat nav is constantly on charge when left in the car alternativley wire it to ignition controlled live . I have picked up the feed for the radio via a fuse very little extra current is drawn by the charger . My sat nav has been wired this way for the last six months with no problems
 JUST CHECK THE VOLTAGE TO THE SAT NAV FROM ITS CHARGER IT POSSIBLY IS NOT 12V AND YOU WILL POP THE SAT NAV IF YOU STICK 12V ON TO IT  
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: amba on 05 December 2007, 21:46:46
Thanks LLF64 and The Boy,for your advise.
My plan ,after reading the notes re stepped down voltage ,is to buy a retro fit female ciggy lighter lead.Hard wire that into a live feed ignition switched wire and an earth ,and then mount the housing above the footwell area of the passenger side centre console.That will then allow for the Tomtom power cable to be plugged directly in without disrupting any circuit boards etc.
I will then feed the usb end,as suggested up behind the centre wood effect console and bring it out around the opassenger side centre air vent.It was then my intention to buy a satnav air vent mount so the unit is in the middle of the car, but not screen mounted as I think it looks too taxi like,hopefully giving a tidy and practical installation without too much grief.
Am sure I have read somewhere that you can buy units which allow Tomtom satnavs to be placed in almost like a phone base charger and then lifted off when you need without the need to remove plugs etc..has anybody had any experience of this type?.
Any other fitting advise greatly appreciated ,before I attempt the above.
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: LFF64 on 05 December 2007, 22:00:28
I have my unit attached just to the left of the dash I have not used the supplied window mount well not all of it just the part that holds the sat nav . I have a short piece of 20x20 stainless box section which the articulated bit just fits into . This also allows the cable torun through it hiding it even more . I will take a picture tomorrow and post it up so you can see what I have done . My unit only has a power connector and this simply unplugs if I need to remove the unit .  
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: amba on 05 December 2007, 22:18:53
LFF64..thanks again for advise..would like to see picture of your installation tips..will look out for it tomorrow.thanks again
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: LFF64 on 07 December 2007, 13:18:42
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee84/LFF64/SAT%20NAV%20PIC/SATNAV008.jpg)
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: LFF64 on 07 December 2007, 13:20:18
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee84/LFF64/SAT%20NAV%20PIC/SATNAV002.jpg)
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: LFF64 on 07 December 2007, 13:21:40
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee84/LFF64/SAT%20NAV%20PIC/SATNAV006.jpg)
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: LFF64 on 07 December 2007, 13:23:10
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee84/LFF64/SAT%20NAV%20PIC/SATNAV005.jpg)
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: LFF64 on 07 December 2007, 13:24:56
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee84/LFF64/SAT%20NAV%20PIC/SATNAV003.jpg)
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: LFF64 on 07 December 2007, 13:27:22
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee84/LFF64/SAT%20NAV%20PIC/SATNAV002.jpg) Sorry for taking up all this spacebut i could not remember how to do multiple pics  :-[
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: Sir Sideways on 07 December 2007, 14:14:04
Ill be looking to replace my MID with my sat nav - seen this done in a vectra b which near enough has the same dash display, I just hope there is enough room behind for it to fit, for now its stuck to the windscreen.
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: amba on 07 December 2007, 14:31:54
Thanks LLF64..looks like you have found a good place to mount the monitor.I have been looking at a similar thing supplied by tomtom which fits to the surface ofthe front dash fascia and has a plug socket on it to allow for easeier removal...the trouble with them windsreen mounted is the messing about unplugging and removing the holder,so felt there must be an easier wasy.How did you attach the metal bracket to the underside of the fascia overhang ?as didn,t wasnt any holes etc...clever cable routing...looks like you had a wet morning where you were !!
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: LFF64 on 07 December 2007, 17:33:27
 ::) I took the pictures while in the car wash  :-[  I could not be bothered to wash and dry it today but I did wax it when I got home  ;) Nice and shiney at the moment but doubt that will last long  :-/
  I have glued the bracket using silicone , this allows the bracket to stay fixed with no holes but if needed it can be removed and the area cleaned up leaving no tell tale holes. To remove the sat nav I just unplug the power lead and lift the unit out . but not sure what cables you have . It may not be to everyones taste but it looks neater and it does not wobble about like the window mounted brackets do
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: LFF64 on 07 December 2007, 17:35:41
Oh and the other cable that is in the picture is the power cable to the snooper detector  ;)
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: cbs2 on 07 December 2007, 18:35:06
I've got one of the small tomtom go thingys with the new style windscreen holder, a big suction cup with a plastic holder mounted on the end.

My plan is to screw the suction cup into the top of the cubby next to the stereo so that only the plastic holder sticks out.
And run the charger lead through the back of the cubby to a female ciggy plug wired to either the cig lighters or the phone loom.

I may be wrong but even if your car hasn't got the rear cig lighter, the wiring should still be there under the centre console. might be easier than finding the phone plug behind the glovebox.

Ive had a quick measure up & it clears the ashtray etc ok
Sorry no pics yet, still to get the time to do it!
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: amba on 07 December 2007, 19:10:27
Hi cbs2...your proposed satnav installation is exactly the way i have mounted my mobile phone holder.i have a nokia 6300 and bought the cr39 dash mounted phone clasp.as i was unhappy drilling holes and was unsure as to how to remove wooden central console to fit dashmount bracket so i decided to fit the holder in the cubby hole ..it works but as you can see the screws through the holder into the back of the cubby it looks slightly untidy at the moment so will modify when i get round to it,but in principal your method should work fine.the cubby hole is removed with a pair of kitchen knives either side and just pull it out.i put a thin piece of plywood on the back to allow the screws to bite into and then pushed the whole thing back into the hole...i think with a tomtom xl satnav if fitted in that place it would stop the glove box opening and the ashtray aswell(but i don,t smoke so no big deal)
Title: Re: Hard wire to Tomtom
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 December 2007, 12:23:30
Remember a satnav system need to receive GPS signals, so ideally it needs an unobstructed view of the sky. You can get remote antennas for them, of course.

Kevin