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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Sipey on 25 February 2008, 12:26:17
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Hello folks,
I have recently purchased a head unit and have everything wired up. However, there is no where near enough room for me to slot the unit back into the dash due to the amount of wires at the back the radio.
Is there anything that can be chopped out from behind the fascia? I have had to walk away from the car after an hour struggling to slide the thing in before the head unit and the dash became cannon fodder for my frustration.
Cheers all,
Sipey - Grumpy and irritated :(
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Presumably, with yours being a facelift, you have replaced the double din with single din unit, so can find space below?
Lack of space is a big problem for chaved up non standard radios, but there is room for most unless its designed by an idiot - certainly my factory fit ones have always been OK with phone harness adapter behind there (though my current 2 are prewired, so not required)
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it CAN be done, but very fiddley.
I have an after market headunit, and a sizable extra box for MID and remote integration, and a fair few large connectors.
You just need to get your fingers in and position as much as you can above / below where the headunit will sit.
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Presumably, with yours being a facelift, you have replaced the double din with single din unit, so can find space below?
Lack of space is a big problem for chaved up non standard radios, but there is room for most unless its designed by an idiot - certainly my factory fit ones have always been OK with phone harness adapter behind there (though my current 2 are prewired, so not required)
Ehh?? - Does not look like one too me. Judging by the 1997 bit or the photo ;)
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Presumably, with yours being a facelift, you have replaced the double din with single din unit, so can find space below?
Lack of space is a big problem for chaved up non standard radios, but there is room for most unless its designed by an idiot - certainly my factory fit ones have always been OK with phone harness adapter behind there (though my current 2 are prewired, so not required)
Ehh?? - Does not look like one too me. Judging by the 1997 bit or the photo ;)
You're right. I'm very tired though ::). I promise I haven't been drinking. Yet.
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I cannot get my fingers in enough. There is a little room below the unit but no room above - there is a big row of cables and a plastic molding that sits above the head unit.
There are a lot of wires coming out of the back of this radio. I have 3 RCA cables going to the amp. 2 Video cables going out to the headrest screens. 3 antenna cables; - 1 for Radio, 1 for TV and 1 for Sat Nav. A mic cable for the Bluetooth mic and then the usual power and speaker cables as well as a camera cable for the reversing camera and sensors. The power cables are also fused adding to the problem with a plastic box about 1.5" square.
I can push it in but then the radio reception is poor where the antenna gets pinched.
Is there nothing behind there that can be sacrificed?
Cheers folks
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Move the fuses to nearer the power source (which is the correct way of fusing anyway), where there will be more room hopefully.
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There is space behind the cuddy on the left.
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A few things to try
1) Any wiring you can merge into one, I sliced two looms into one.
2) There is space with longer cables to go towards the glove box.
3) There is SOME space under the radio.
I have managed display driver, adaptor loom a non working (as yet) traffic master adaptor and cables to CD changer and amp
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take the ashtray out complete and you can get your hands up the back !! :y
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take the ashtray out complete and you can get your hands up the back !! :y
Just what size hands do you have !! ?? :-/ :-/
When I had trouble with mine on the old motor there was no way I could use the ashtray space as a way in .. !!!
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take the ashtray out complete and you can get your hands up the back !! :y
Just what size hands do you have !! ?? :-/ :-/
When I had trouble with mine on the old motor there was no way I could use the ashtray space as a way in .. !!!
quite big but very flexible !! im 6ft2 and 19 stone ! ;D ;D
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If you have Traffic Master (the TM button), that's prob not going to work with your new Head Unit so that can go, its piggy backed into the rear of the VX unit ie,the TM plugs in the back of the VX HU then the HU cable plugs in the back of the TM plug.
Its not one those Ripspeed DVD head units is it, coz there sort of designed to stick about 1/2 inch out of the Din unit with the supplied spacer.
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If you have Traffic Master (the TM button), that's prob not going to work with your new Head Unit so that can go, its piggy backed into the rear of the VX unit ie,the TM plugs in the back of the VX HU then the HU cable plugs in the back of the TM plug.
Its not one those Ripspeed DVD head units is it, coz there sort of designed to stick about 1/2 inch out of the Din unit with the supplied spacer.
I don't have TM Zirk.
No it's not a ripseed and is designed to fit flush. When it is in, the facia sticks out about the same distance as the TC button. It is an odd size so had to chop the dash to fit it but it looks good. Just got to get the damn thing to slide in without pinching the cables.
I think I have broken the aerial in my attempts to get the thing in yesterday as the radio now has poor reception. At the moment the thing is in the boot waiting for my knuckles to recover and my temper to calm :-)
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take the ashtray out complete and you can get your hands up the back !! :y
I just went out and took the ashtray out mate but there is no hole behind it - or do you mean remove the 2 screws that hold the bottom of the facia in place as well and try to bend it out of the way a bit?
Sorry for being a pain folks. Never had this kind of trouble installing a bloody radio before :-[
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take the ashtray out complete and you can get your hands up the back !! :y
I just went out and took the ashtray out mate but there is no hole behind it - or do you mean remove the 2 screws that hold the bottom of the facia in place as well and try to bend it out of the way a bit?
Sorry for being a pain folks. Never had this kind of trouble installing a bloody radio before :-[
yes mate the whole lot !! :y
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Sounds like you're having a mare mate. I am struggling a little bit with my Harman/Kardan ipod unit but sounds like I have it easy compared to you.
Good luck mate.
Sharpey.
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I can sympathise with your frustrations...
My previous work car was a Citroen Xantia (I know, I know....) and I fitted a JVC DVD head unit into it, with an adapter to the steering wheel controls. Oh, and also leads to the rear of the car for an amp for a small sub.
I have never seen so many wires and 'boxes' hanging off the back of a head unit - and everytime you tried to push it all back into the dash all the wires snagged on something and it all got stuck. Talk about infuriating!!!
In the end I removed the instrument panel (a job in itself...) and cut a decent size hole behind so I could reach around to behind the radio and pull the wires back as I pushed it all back into the dash.
For a job that would take 5 mins in most other cars it took me all afternoon! Luckily my Omega has the Bose and after seeing how tight the space is there is no way I'll bother changing anything on this one.
Good luck
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You`d be amazed how many cars that come in here that we have to remove either the dash or glovebox, just to get a stereo in. Its almost at the stage now that we remove these before even looking at the stereo. :'(
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Anyone out there near maidenhead that wants to earn a few quid? Or can anyone recomend a good audio shop near Maidenhead as I have had enough. Another 2 hours wasted - more grazed knuckles and my initial liking of the car is fading rapidly.
Cheers all,
Mark
Tired, grumpy and ever so irritated >:(
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Well, after all your helpful advice, I managed to get the head unit in. All is working well - had to replace the aerial but all is good.
For a cheapie unit given to me by a neighbor I must say I am impressed. Bluetooth works very well - clear through the speakers and microphone is very good. DVD is most impressive. Sat Nav not yet tested but pics up a signal quicker than my Navman unit. It will also accept an SD card as well as having a USB port for other appliances.
A couple of pictures are in the gallery.
Thanks again all for your help and your patience ;D
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Well done, satisfying when its all done innit!
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Hi, when I fitted a flip out dvd screen and stereo in one thing (which I have now taken out cos it was pants) I made room by dismatling the ashtray and cutting it up to just leave the front of it :-/ Then took out the fascia and fixed the front to it and then screwed it to the dash in some way, I can't remember excactly as it was a while ago but trust me it works, all the wiring went down under the unit and then the unit slid in perfect!!!!! ;) ;)
Glenn